US Politics Mega-thread - Page 5459

On October 10 2016 11:46 GoTuNk! wrote:
I got the feeling Trump rolled over Hillary for the first part and won solidly the rest, but I'm too biased to judge.

He does seem to be back fully on the race though?

On October 10 2016 11:44 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Trump did significantly better than the last debate. He had the upper hand during the first 45 minutes or so especially.

The problem is that the bar was set really, really low by the last debate. He had the upper hand during the first part of the debate because Hillary could never look good in a shit-slinging contest; if she tries to yell over him or get down in the mud, people will just think badly of her, whereas we expect Trump to do it.

Like last time though, Trump continued to look worse and worse as the night went on. His policy answers were awful, he repeatedly demonstrated complete ignorance about how both the government and the economy work, he repeatedly interrupted Clinton and whined and argued with the moderators, he continued to blatantly lie about countless things that can readily be fact-checked, and he almost never answered the question. Hillary took him to town on actual policy-related answers and looked significantly more calm and composed for the entire debate.

First debate: 80:20 Hillary.
2nd Debate: 55:45 Hillary.

I don't think there's a chance in hell that Trump could get a poll bump from this debate. Too many sound bites and pictures that will make him look bad in the next few media cycles, particularly when he said that he hasn't talked to Pence and that he disagrees with him. At absolute best, Trump marginally outperformed Clinton in the eyes of the public, but it will probably be swayed by how the media portrays the debate: there weren't many (if any) really good lines or sound bites digging into Clinton, whereas there were still quite a few that can look bad for Trump. His performance probably looked a lot better to his supporters, but I highly doubt that it would sway any undecided voters.

On October 10 2016 11:44 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Trump did significantly better than the last debate. He had the upper hand during the first 45 minutes or so especially.

The problem is that the bar was set really, really low by the last debate. He had the upper hand during the first part of the debate because Hillary could never look good in a shit-slinging contest; if she tries to yell over him or get down in the mud, people will just think badly of her, whereas we expect Trump to do it.

Like last time though, Trump continued to look worse and worse as the night went on. His policy answers were awful, he repeatedly demonstrated complete ignorance about how both the government and the economy work, he repeatedly interrupted Clinton and whined and argued with the moderators, he continued to blatantly lie about countless things that can readily be fact-checked, and he almost never answered the question. Hillary took him to town on actual policy-related answers and looked significantly more calm and composed for the entire debate.

First debate: 80:20 Hillary.
2nd Debate: 55:45 Hillary.

I don't think there's a chance in hell that Trump could get a poll bump from this debate. Too many sound bites and pictures that will make him look bad in the next few media cycles, particularly when he said that he hasn't talked to Pence and that he disagrees with him. At absolute best, Trump marginally outperformed Clinton in the eyes of the public, but it will probably be swayed by how the media portrays the debate: there weren't many (if any) really good lines or sound bites digging into Clinton, whereas there were still quite a few that can look bad for Trump. His performance probably looked a lot better to his supporters, but I highly doubt that it would sway any undecided voters.

On October 10 2016 11:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
My favorite part of the debate was the end when Trump said Hillary was tough like a fighter and he respected it and Hillary smiled a genuine smile and it made me feel warm and fuzzy inside that there might be hope for our future it was cute =^.^=

On October 10 2016 11:47 jalstar wrote:
Google searches for "third party" spiked during the debate:

https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=now 1-d&q=third party

On October 10 2016 11:47 CorsairHero wrote:

hes a long long way away from 50% chance of winning the election

On October 10 2016 11:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
My favorite part of the debate was the end when Trump said Hillary was tough like a fighter and he respected it and Hillary smiled a genuine smile and it made me feel warm and fuzzy inside that there might be hope for our future it was cute =^.^=

On October 10 2016 11:49 biology]major wrote:


She's a cold shell of a woman who probably hasn't received real appreciation in a long time. That was a sincere compliment.

On October 10 2016 11:50 jalstar wrote:


He went from 19-20% to 23-24% on betting markets. Hillary had a 5-10 point spike after the first debate, don't remember exactly.

So yeah he needed to win by more.

On October 10 2016 11:50 Starlightsun wrote:


Well he also said he's going to try to put her in jail if he's elected, so don't get too warm and fuzzy now.