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Introvert
United States4777 Posts
On October 10 2016 11:41 KwarK wrote: Does anyone watch the debates while having no stance on the election at this point? I hate both of them, I was only one (that I saw) to answer "neither" on the "who are you rotting for" question. But the categories are ok, no need to have too many. Just need a "they both sucked" option. | ||
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Hexe
United States332 Posts
On October 10 2016 11:42 parkufarku wrote: Trump should've complimented her about how well she can talk as a politician - going back to the democratic primaries, Hillary lied through her teeth that she couldn't talk like a smooth politician but that's exactly what she is. She's super good at lying and changing the subject. Nah, he closed it out very simply, it was a great look. | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On October 10 2016 11:42 parkufarku wrote: Trump should've complimented her about how well she can talk as a politician - going back to the democratic primaries, Hillary lied through her teeth that she couldn't talk like a smooth politician but that's exactly what she is. She's super good at lying and changing the subject. The height of irony | ||
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oBlade
United States5626 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=26088558 | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
But I think so many of the people whose opinions are malleable at this point don't know what I know that those attack lines probably played well. The thing about her Senatorship is a good example here. Not on any of the things independents care about. Just the Russia policy which plays into the Putin's buddy angle. And overall that just looks really bad-especially juxtaposed with his other Russia comments after the U.S. formally accused them. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
The problem is that the bar was set really, really low by the last debate. He had the upper hand during the first part of the debate because Hillary could never look good in a shit-slinging contest; if she tries to yell over him or get down in the mud, people will just think badly of her, whereas we expect Trump to do it. Like last time though, Trump continued to look worse and worse as the night went on. His policy answers were awful, he repeatedly demonstrated complete ignorance about how both the government and the economy work, he repeatedly interrupted Clinton and whined and argued with the moderators, he continued to blatantly lie about countless things that can readily be fact-checked, and he almost never answered the question. Hillary took him to town on actual policy-related answers and looked significantly more calm and composed for the entire debate. First debate: 80:20 Hillary. 2nd Debate: 55:45 Hillary. I don't think there's a chance in hell that Trump could get a poll bump from this debate. Too many sound bites and pictures that will make him look bad in the next few media cycles, particularly when he said that he hasn't talked to Pence and that he disagrees with him. At absolute best, Trump marginally outperformed Clinton in the eyes of the public, but it will probably be swayed by how the media portrays the debate: there weren't many (if any) really good lines or sound bites digging into Clinton, whereas there were still quite a few that can look bad for Trump. His performance probably looked a lot better to his supporters, but I highly doubt that it would sway any undecided voters. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12205 Posts
Euros are laughing at you even having Trump as a candidate. He has a pew poll with single digit support amongst Europeans. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On October 10 2016 11:44 Stratos_speAr wrote: Trump did significantly better than the last debate. He had the upper hand during the first 45 minutes or so especially. The problem is that the bar was set really, really low by the last debate. He had the upper hand during the first part of the debate because Hillary could never look good in a shit-slinging contest; if she tries to yell over him or get down in the mud, people will just think badly of her, whereas we expect Trump to do it. Like last time though, Trump continued to look worse and worse as the night went on. His policy answers were awful, he repeatedly demonstrated complete ignorance about how both the government and the economy work, he repeatedly interrupted Clinton and whined and argued with the moderators, and he almost never answered the question. Hillary took him to town on actual policy-related answers and looked significantly more calm and composed for the entire debate. First debate: 80:20 Hillary. 2nd Debate: 55:45 Hillary. I don't think there's a chance in hell that Trump could get a poll bump from this debate. Too many sound bites and pictures that will make him look bad in the next few media cycles, particularly when he said that he hasn't talked to Pence and that he disagrees with him. His performance probably looked a lot better to his supporters, but I highly doubt that it would sway any undecided voters. Wholeheartedly agree with this. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
I guess that's a win for Trump? Isn't that just sad? | ||
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Hexe
United States332 Posts
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
He does seem to be back fully on the race though? | ||
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blobrus
4297 Posts
On October 10 2016 11:41 KwarK wrote: Does anyone watch the debates while having no stance on the election at this point? Third party voters like me don't really support either candidate. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=now 1-d&q=third party | ||
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oBlade
United States5626 Posts
On October 10 2016 11:44 Nebuchad wrote: Euros are laughing at you even having Trump as a candidate. He has a pew poll with single digit support amongst Europeans. Does Europe still have countries by the way? | ||
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Netscape9
United States139 Posts
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Introvert
United States4777 Posts
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Monochromatic
United States997 Posts
On October 10 2016 11:47 jalstar wrote: Google searches for "third party" spiked during the debate: https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=now 1-d&q=third party Good thing we don't have any third parties at the debate, they might gain support! | ||
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