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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
October 08 2016 04:29 GMT
#107601
Find me an example of Clinton boasting about abusing her power to harm somebody else, then we'll talk.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 08 2016 04:30 GMT
#107602
I should disclose a I have a personal hatred of Hillary because I met a great friend at college who is Kurdish and Hillary's state department bombed some of his family members despite they being US allies (thanks Obama for not having a goddamn clue what to do in Syria), god I fucking hate the government
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 08 2016 04:30 GMT
#107603
On October 08 2016 13:26 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 13:26 KwarK wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:25 plasmidghost wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:22 Plansix wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:20 plasmidghost wrote:
So, for the Hillary supporters complaining about the Trump tape, how did you honestly react when Hillary was caught on tape calling black people "superpredators"?

False equivalency much?

The hell are you talking about? They both denigrated people yet you give that garbage Hillary a free pass? How the fuck did you come to that

Yeah, they're not the same.

Yes, they are, 100%. I know you Hillary supporters try to make every excuse possible for your awful candidate then say Trump supporters are bad

Nope. One is sexual assault, the other is a bad way to talk about criminals.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 08 2016 04:30 GMT
#107604
On October 08 2016 13:29 Aquanim wrote:
Find me an example of Clinton boasting about abusing her power to harm somebody else, then we'll talk.

She did kind of cause the whole Libya disaster
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 08 2016 04:31 GMT
#107605
On October 08 2016 13:30 plasmidghost wrote:
I should disclose a I have a personal hatred of Hillary because I met a great friend at college who is Kurdish and Hillary's state department bombed some of his family members despite they being US allies (thanks Obama for not having a goddamn clue what to do in Syria), god I fucking hate the government


I think you need to learn the difference between the state department and the military. Its like me blaming John Kerry because my package was delivered a day late.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 08 2016 04:31 GMT
#107606
On October 08 2016 13:30 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 13:26 plasmidghost wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:26 KwarK wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:25 plasmidghost wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:22 Plansix wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:20 plasmidghost wrote:
So, for the Hillary supporters complaining about the Trump tape, how did you honestly react when Hillary was caught on tape calling black people "superpredators"?

False equivalency much?

The hell are you talking about? They both denigrated people yet you give that garbage Hillary a free pass? How the fuck did you come to that

Yeah, they're not the same.

Yes, they are, 100%. I know you Hillary supporters try to make every excuse possible for your awful candidate then say Trump supporters are bad

Nope. One is sexual assault, the other is a bad way to talk about criminals.

Wait, did you just call all black people criminals? The hell is wrong with you
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 08 2016 04:31 GMT
#107607
On October 08 2016 13:20 plasmidghost wrote:
So, for the Hillary supporters complaining about the Trump tape, how did you honestly react when Hillary was caught on tape calling black people "superpredators"?

Are you quoting random r/the_donald posters again?
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 04:32:10
October 08 2016 04:31 GMT
#107608
On October 08 2016 13:29 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 13:26 Chris1 wrote:
If you go by audio, Hilary Clinton defended a child rapist and laughed about.


"He took a lie detector test! I had him take a polygraph, which he passed, which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs."

Keep in mine, he got off the charge and passed the lie detector test, meaning Hilary actually knew he was guilty and still defended him.


You're about 20 pages too late to post this.


Is one person just spamming TL with troll accounts? Recently there's always someone with 20 posts popping into the thread every few days with some kind of shitty youtube link
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44311 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 04:32:38
October 08 2016 04:32 GMT
#107609
On October 08 2016 13:26 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 13:26 KwarK wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:25 plasmidghost wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:22 Plansix wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:20 plasmidghost wrote:
So, for the Hillary supporters complaining about the Trump tape, how did you honestly react when Hillary was caught on tape calling black people "superpredators"?

False equivalency much?

The hell are you talking about? They both denigrated people yet you give that garbage Hillary a free pass? How the fuck did you come to that

Yeah, they're not the same.

Yes, they are, 100%. I know you Hillary supporters try to make every excuse possible for your awful candidate then say Trump supporters are bad


"The "superpredator" remark, which Priebus and Trump referenced, was in the same speech a few lines later.

"But we also have to have an organized effort against gangs," Hillary Clinton said in a C-SPAN video clip. "Just as in a previous generation we had an organized effort against the mob. We need to take these people on. They are often connected to big drug cartels, they are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called superpredators — no conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first, we have to bring them to heel."

The full context of this incident does link children and superpredators, but nowhere in the speech does she directly label African-American youth this way.

However, backlash from this speech has followed Clinton into this year’s election. Two Black Lives Matter activists confronted Clinton at a private fundraiser in February, telling the candidate she owes black people an apology.

One day after this confrontation, Clinton released a statement to the Washington Post’s Jonathan Capehart, expressing regret for her word choice.

"Looking back, I shouldn't have used those words, and I wouldn't use them today," she said."

~ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/aug/28/reince-priebus/did-hillary-clinton-call-african-american-youth-su/

She says that superpredators are kids who have no conscience or empathy as they commit crimes. She doesn't say they're black kids, and it's clear that she's describing a term used to categorize this sort of individual- not that she goes around saying "You're a superpredator". And even still, she apologized... something that Trump almost never ever does.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 04:33:44
October 08 2016 04:32 GMT
#107610
Yeah sorry I'm just going off the_donald again, that Kurd post was posted a few days ago on there and I thought it was interesting

User was temp banned for this post.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 08 2016 04:33 GMT
#107611
On October 08 2016 13:31 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2016 13:30 Plansix wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:26 plasmidghost wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:26 KwarK wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:25 plasmidghost wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:22 Plansix wrote:
On October 08 2016 13:20 plasmidghost wrote:
So, for the Hillary supporters complaining about the Trump tape, how did you honestly react when Hillary was caught on tape calling black people "superpredators"?

False equivalency much?

The hell are you talking about? They both denigrated people yet you give that garbage Hillary a free pass? How the fuck did you come to that

Yeah, they're not the same.

Yes, they are, 100%. I know you Hillary supporters try to make every excuse possible for your awful candidate then say Trump supporters are bad

Nope. One is sexual assault, the other is a bad way to talk about criminals.

Wait, did you just call all black people criminals? The hell is wrong with you

Could you shitposts harder? I don't think you are sticking up for the sexiest bigot hard enough.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 04:38:39
October 08 2016 04:33 GMT
#107612
I wonder why black people are voting for Clinton by huge margins even with that super predator quote from the primary. Maybe because in context they didn't really find it offensive?

I dunno man, it sounded liked you're just looking for reasons to hate Clinton

Edit: -_-
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 08 2016 04:34 GMT
#107613
A Republican member of Congress is now calling for Donald Trump to drop out of the Republican presidential ticket “for the good of the country.”

Congressman Mike Coffman, who ran a campaign ad going after Trump, released a statement tonight saying that the leaked audio of Trump’s past sexist remarks is the last straw:

“For the good of the country, and to give the Republicans a chance of defeating Hillary Clinton, Mr. Trump should step aside. His defeat at this point seems almost certain. And four years of Hillary Clinton is not what is best for this country. Mr. Trump should put the country first and do the right thing.”

The only question is how many more will demand the same.


http://www.mediaite.com/online/gop-rep-wants-trump-to-do-the-right-thing-and-step-aside/

They didn't link a source this time, but I don't really question the probability that this is true
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 04:35:35
October 08 2016 04:35 GMT
#107614
On that note, what are the GOP's actual options right now? Even if Trump steps down (he won't) who takes over? Can they possibly force him out via legal means?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 08 2016 04:36 GMT
#107615
I don't think he can be removed from the ballot in some states.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 08 2016 04:36 GMT
#107616
On October 08 2016 13:35 Nevuk wrote:
On that note, what are the GOP's actual options right now? Even if Trump steps down (he won't) who takes over? Can they possibly force him out via legal means?

Pence, they're stuck with trump and or pence
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 08 2016 04:37 GMT
#107617
How hard would it be to get term limits imposed on Congress?
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-08 04:39:22
October 08 2016 04:38 GMT
#107618
On October 08 2016 13:33 ZeaL. wrote:
I wonder why black people are voting for Clinton by huge margins even with that super predator quote from the primary. Maybe because in context they didn't really find it offensive?

I dunno man, it sounded liked you're just looking for reasons to hate Clinton

Probably because their other choice has said far worse, even if they are not too fond of her.

Also, a lot of black people of the older generations are pretty supportive of what Hillary did because crime was really bad back then. It's the younger ones that are more strongly against her.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 08 2016 04:39 GMT
#107619
On October 08 2016 13:37 plasmidghost wrote:
How hard would it be to get term limits imposed on Congress?


The worst congressmen seem to be the ones that are the newest ones so its hard to get me to believe in term limits knowing that.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 08 2016 04:40 GMT
#107620
Story broke a few hours ago and he's already lost multiple endorsements and even has ex supporters telling him to drop. Imagine how much worse it will get when the east coast wakes up to this. With Matthew subsiding this will dominate news leading up to the debate. Can't wait to hear his excuse when asked about it on Sunday.
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