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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44020 Posts
September 24 2016 05:10 GMT
#102701
At least when Hillary wins the Republican Party will be forced to do some soul searching about how the hell they ended up with someone like Trump. This year was a free win and they're still going to lose it. Hopefully they'll reform.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 24 2016 05:15 GMT
#102702
Yeah unfortunately that will still leave the Democratic party in need of better candidates at least, and tbh I'd be surprised if she became a 2 term president. Unless Republicans just can't win presidential elections anymore because of their issues with non whites.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-24 05:39:11
September 24 2016 05:20 GMT
#102703
In theory, Hillary could have been told it was a consensual thing.

Something else interesting about this, is that Broddrick's hotel roommate at the time, Norma Kelsey, had a father who had been murdered. 2 years later, Clinton commuted his killer's sentence. Coincedence? Years later, when Kelsey spoke out in support of Broddrick, her potential ulterior motive was used by many to cast doubt on the claims.

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18299 Posts
September 24 2016 09:56 GMT
#102704
On September 24 2016 12:27 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2016 12:20 Uldridge wrote:
I completely understand the not being a dick thing, but people also need to realise there's a whole subset of people that are attracted to things people are afraid of, find offensive, are intimidated by. It's scary to think that someone can't express how they are because he might get heavily criticized for it. I also realise I'm being a bit hyperbolic here, but the other day, I saw a video of some woman calling out her uber driver because he had a hawaiian hula girl doll on his dashboard, which I found completely nonsensical.
So where do you draw the line on the not-being-a-dick policy?

Sometimes one person is being a dick by doing a shitty thing, sometimes the other person is being a dick by getting way too upset about a thing that wasn't actually shitty, sometimes they're both being a dick. In almost all cases no real line needs drawing because it almost all falls under free expression/speech or shit we already have laws for.

Hey, it's a good thing you're so good at self-reflection.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18299 Posts
September 24 2016 10:01 GMT
#102705
Also, googling Juanita Broadrick, I don't see any new things. Anybody mind explaining what's happening?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 24 2016 10:08 GMT
#102706
More Guccifer leaks. Nothing too impressive but it is an event that occurred.
http://observer.com/2016/09/breaking-guccifer-2-0-releases-more-dnc-docs-exposing-more-corruption/
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4420 Posts
September 24 2016 11:34 GMT
#102707
On September 24 2016 13:10 CorsairHero wrote:
Paying less tax over personal safety

Even Kim Kardashian is now supporting Trump.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/kim-kardashian-is-suddenly-and-disappointingly-considering-voting-for-donald-trump_us_57e44233e4b0e80b1ba118bd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12466 Posts
September 24 2016 11:41 GMT
#102708
Few things are less convincing to me than insanely rich people complaining that they'll be a little less insanely rich
No will to live, no wish to die
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
September 24 2016 11:44 GMT
#102709
I've always thought journalism should be objective and impartial since it's in their code of ethics.
They aren't even trying to do their job properly... (referring to the (and disappointingly) part)
"My spoon is too big."
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12466 Posts
September 24 2016 11:49 GMT
#102710
On September 24 2016 20:44 Antyee wrote:
I've always thought journalism should be objective and impartial since it's in their code of ethics.
They aren't even trying to do their job properly... (referring to the (and disappointingly) part)


That's an edito.

And Trump is objectively doing all the things that the editor is criticizing him for, so what you're advocating is a neutrality bias.
No will to live, no wish to die
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-24 11:50:47
September 24 2016 11:50 GMT
#102711
That's the huffington post, they don't even try to hide it. Most of their articles are pretty much editorials.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-24 11:52:11
September 24 2016 11:51 GMT
#102712
On September 24 2016 20:44 Antyee wrote:
I've always thought journalism should be objective and impartial since it's in their code of ethics.
They aren't even trying to do their job properly... (referring to the (and disappointingly) part)

This is a misconception. Journalists are supposed to provide you with the perspective they feel the public should know about. They try to be balanced, but that isn't always possible. Journalists assume the reader will look for more than one perspective.

And editorials are pure opinions and can be biased as fuck.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
September 24 2016 11:54 GMT
#102713
On September 24 2016 20:51 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2016 20:44 Antyee wrote:
I've always thought journalism should be objective and impartial since it's in their code of ethics.
They aren't even trying to do their job properly... (referring to the (and disappointingly) part)

This is a misconception. Journalists are supposed to provide you with the perspective they feel the public should know about. They try to be balanced, but that isn't always possible. Journalists assume the reader will look for more than one perspective.
Pretty much.
A journalist shall always draw a clear and unmistakable distinction between the facts which he/she tells and what may be opinions, interpretations or surmises, although, in his/her professional activities he/she is not obliged to be neutral.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 24 2016 12:30 GMT
#102714
I think both candidates are hilariously bad, and whoever wins is barely going to against what should ordinarily be a "free" win.
Mercy13
Profile Joined January 2011
United States718 Posts
September 24 2016 12:44 GMT
#102715
Waves of immigrants coming into the U.S. in recent decades have helped the economy over the long haul and had little lasting impact on the wages or employment levels of native-born Americans, according to one of the most comprehensive studies yet on the topic.

...

“Immigration enlarges the economy while leaving the native population slightly better off on average, but the greatest beneficiaries of immigration are the immigrants themselves as they avail themselves of opportunities not available to them in their home countries,” the report said.

Immigration also can lead to more innovation, entrepreneurship and technological change across the economy, the report found. About 53% of immigrants had at least some college, including 16% with a graduate education, as of 2012. While often left out of the debate on immigration, such workers can help lift overall living standards.

“The prospects for long run economic growth in the United States would be considerably dimmed without the contributions of high-skilled immigrants,” the report said.

The study also found that “over a long time horizon (75 years in our estimates),” the fiscal impacts of immigrants “are generally positive at the federal level and negative at the state and local levels.”

Source
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4420 Posts
September 24 2016 13:07 GMT
#102716
On September 24 2016 21:44 Mercy13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Waves of immigrants coming into the U.S. in recent decades have helped the economy over the long haul and had little lasting impact on the wages or employment levels of native-born Americans, according to one of the most comprehensive studies yet on the topic.

...

“Immigration enlarges the economy while leaving the native population slightly better off on average, but the greatest beneficiaries of immigration are the immigrants themselves as they avail themselves of opportunities not available to them in their home countries,” the report said.

Immigration also can lead to more innovation, entrepreneurship and technological change across the economy, the report found. About 53% of immigrants had at least some college, including 16% with a graduate education, as of 2012. While often left out of the debate on immigration, such workers can help lift overall living standards.

“The prospects for long run economic growth in the United States would be considerably dimmed without the contributions of high-skilled immigrants,” the report said.

The study also found that “over a long time horizon (75 years in our estimates),” the fiscal impacts of immigrants “are generally positive at the federal level and negative at the state and local levels.”

Source

The study doesn't differentiate between illegal and legal immigration.
Total waste of time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-24 14:13:45
September 24 2016 14:12 GMT
#102717
On September 24 2016 21:30 bo1b wrote:
I think both candidates are hilariously bad, and whoever wins is barely going to against what should ordinarily be a "free" win.

I largely agree.
pesky sad realities.

hopefully they come up with some fixes to address it; but I rather doubt they will; as that kind of institutional change is hard.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-24 14:34:06
September 24 2016 14:33 GMT
#102718
On September 24 2016 22:07 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2016 21:44 Mercy13 wrote:
Waves of immigrants coming into the U.S. in recent decades have helped the economy over the long haul and had little lasting impact on the wages or employment levels of native-born Americans, according to one of the most comprehensive studies yet on the topic.

...

“Immigration enlarges the economy while leaving the native population slightly better off on average, but the greatest beneficiaries of immigration are the immigrants themselves as they avail themselves of opportunities not available to them in their home countries,” the report said.

Immigration also can lead to more innovation, entrepreneurship and technological change across the economy, the report found. About 53% of immigrants had at least some college, including 16% with a graduate education, as of 2012. While often left out of the debate on immigration, such workers can help lift overall living standards.

“The prospects for long run economic growth in the United States would be considerably dimmed without the contributions of high-skilled immigrants,” the report said.

The study also found that “over a long time horizon (75 years in our estimates),” the fiscal impacts of immigrants “are generally positive at the federal level and negative at the state and local levels.”

Source

The study doesn't differentiate between illegal and legal immigration. makes it difficult for me to push my preferred narrative about immigrants, so I'm going to discard it.
Total waste of time.

FYP.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9301 Posts
September 24 2016 14:33 GMT
#102719
How can you be sure Clinton wouldn't beat some ordinary republican candidate? Rubio and Jeb showed nobody likes those anymore.
You're now breathing manually
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 24 2016 14:34 GMT
#102720
Did not see that Trump was accused of a 1994 rape in June. Apparently the media didn't cover it, which is surprising.

Trump's divorce records with Ivana are pretty disturbing too, including quotes from Trump Jr.

Guess he might be as filthy as Bill Clinton.
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