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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
September 22 2016 20:50 GMT
#102021
On September 23 2016 05:48 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:45 Nebuchad wrote:
You sound kind of deplorable, GGTeMpLaR.

Pretty much. Proud to use the super secret coded language of calling black people monkeys. That secret language of KKK and your shitty racist uncle you saw at Christmas until you were like 10 and then he wasn't invited any more.


I'm sorry. That's not what I'm doing. I'm sorry you are incapable of wrapping your head around the fact that it isn't a racially motivated insult when I say someone acting like a monkey is acting like a monkey.

What happens when a group of whites violently attack someone and I call them a monkey? Is it still dehumanizing taboo? Get a grip man wow
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 20:53:05
September 22 2016 20:50 GMT
#102022
On September 23 2016 05:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:40 Plansix wrote:
There is only one person playing victim here. Someone needs their safe space to call black people animals, rather than criminals.


Lol?

I'm going to say those criminals are acting like fucking monkeys.

I don't care if they're black or white. What they did was criminal

How about how they dehumanized the human they just fucking assaulted? Do you give a shit about that?

Honestly you people are absurd. I'll call anyone who acts like a monkey a monkey. It has nothing to do with race


Lets all play wtf is wrong with Templar today I guess.

I dont know why you keep bringing race into it. No one has mentioned race till you brought it up, and you are the only one who is pretending like this should be a safe space where you can lie and bullshit all you want and people should agree with you. Not only that but you actually managed to bait people into the race thing.

You are the only one who is acting offended and attacking people with sweeping statements alleging hypocrisy and double standards.

If you want to call people vermin regardless of their race, good for you. Most people would prefer not to do that because that sort of rhetoric is the same rhetoric those people beating that man in the video would use. I guess people here believe in being better than that. So they called it out.

No one said that ONLY black people should not be called vermin or dehumanized and its ok to dehumanize white people. Nor has anyone done so except xDaunt and yourself.

So I dont see where the claims for hypocrisy here coming from in this case.

Yes those people attacked that man and they should be punished. There its been said for the 100th time right now. I would even call their behavior deplorable.

Now as a courtesy please condemn all violence against protesters at Drumpf rallies.

Thanks.

KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43401 Posts
September 22 2016 20:50 GMT
#102023
Waaaahhhhh, whenever I dehumanize black people a bunch of other people criticize me for it and I'm offended by that criticism. This topic should be a safe space that allows me to call black people vermin as much as I like. Also nobody should ever say Happy Holidays.

Templar, if you're being a racist asshole and I call you a racist asshole you can't then go "I'm offended by that and I demand you not call me it". Teamliquid is not your safe space. Grow the fuck up. If you want to double down on being racist and calling black people monkeys then get used to people calling you out on it. I'm sure xDaunt can recommend you a few websites where that kind of rhetoric will be more mainstream if you need to go find a hugbox where nobody ever disagrees with you.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 22 2016 20:51 GMT
#102024
On September 23 2016 05:49 CobaltBlu wrote:
I think the interesting thing here is that there was a clear consensus that the activities in the video were wrong and the participants were criminal. The 'outrage' is that some people are upset they are being challenged about calling those people animals.

They need the world to be a safe space for their beliefs and don't want them challenged.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 22 2016 20:51 GMT
#102025
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 22 2016 20:51 GMT
#102026
On September 23 2016 05:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:48 Plansix wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:45 Nebuchad wrote:
You sound kind of deplorable, GGTeMpLaR.

Pretty much. Proud to use the super secret coded language of calling black people monkeys. That secret language of KKK and your shitty racist uncle you saw at Christmas until you were like 10 and then he wasn't invited any more.


I'm sorry. That's not what I'm doing. I'm sorry you are incapable of wrapping your head around the fact that it isn't a racially motivated insult when I say someone acting like a monkey is acting like a monkey.

What happens when a group of whites violently attack someone and I call them a monkey? Is it still dehumanizing taboo? Get a grip man wow

Yes. Don't do that. Its shitty. Be less shitty.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
September 22 2016 20:52 GMT
#102027
On September 23 2016 05:49 CobaltBlu wrote:
I think the interesting thing here is that there was a clear consensus that the activities in the video were wrong and the participants were criminal. The 'outrage' is that some people are upset they are being challenged about calling those people animals.


I don't really disagree with you.

It's just turned into a argument of

'wow they're acting like *insert whatever synonym for criminal you'd like*'

vs

'wow you can't say that it's racist and dehumanizing'

As they proceed to insult posters here for expressing insults against said criminals
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 22 2016 20:52 GMT
#102028
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.

Still mad he couldn’t’ use monkeys. He really wanted to use monkeys, but then people would know.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 20:54:54
September 22 2016 20:54 GMT
#102029
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 20:55:10
September 22 2016 20:54 GMT
#102030
On September 23 2016 05:50 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:47 biology]major wrote:
The irony of all this is the very people who think the dehumanizing language is referring to black people are actually the ones who have those prejudiced ideas to begin with. Change the color of their skin to purple or green, still animals that have abandoned their humanity. They are redeemable however, it would take some self reflection.


We also saw you call white people monkeys every time they rioted against the labour law in France.

Except we didn't.


Show me the video and if they're acting like monkeys and it will make you feel better I can call them all monkey vermin animals too. It doesn't bother me I'm sorry it bothers you

Getting called a deplorable doesn't bother me either I don't even think Hillary gives a shit. She's just playing politics it was probably a tactical move meant to halt the growth of his voterbase. She was clearly advised on doing such a thing before she did it. Will it pay off? I don't know maybe but I certainly have my doubts

Attacking voters is very risky but it could pay off under the right circumstances
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43401 Posts
September 22 2016 20:54 GMT
#102031
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.

You said BLM are vermin. I don't know if you're unaware what the B in BLM stands for. Perhaps you were referring to the Bureau of Land Management.

Actually, you know what, I'm done giving you the benefit of the doubt. You're a racist.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 20:57:09
September 22 2016 20:55 GMT
#102032
On September 23 2016 05:54 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.


This is flat out wrong.

Let's go back and reread the past couple pages and see who brought race into this.

edit - yep it wasn't me it was biology hypothesizing 'if the races were reversed'
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14068 Posts
September 22 2016 20:55 GMT
#102033
On September 23 2016 05:54 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.

People brought up race instantly saying that he wanted to call the rioters monkeys but couldn't beacuse then people would know hes a racist what are you talking about.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12379 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 20:57:22
September 22 2016 20:57 GMT
#102034
On September 23 2016 05:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:50 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:47 biology]major wrote:
The irony of all this is the very people who think the dehumanizing language is referring to black people are actually the ones who have those prejudiced ideas to begin with. Change the color of their skin to purple or green, still animals that have abandoned their humanity. They are redeemable however, it would take some self reflection.


We also saw you call white people monkeys every time they rioted against the labour law in France.

Except we didn't.


Show me the video and if they're acting like monkeys and it will make you feel better I can call them all monkey vermin animals too. It doesn't bother me I'm sorry it bothers you


Well of course you can do it after you've been triggered into doing it, that's not very hard. What we would like to know is if you would do it instinctively, not after we've had a conversation where you said you would.

Funnily enough, vermin and monkeys aren't terms that tend to appear anywhere when we watch white people riot. But hey, must be just a coincidence.
No will to live, no wish to die
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 20:58:59
September 22 2016 20:57 GMT
#102035
On September 23 2016 05:55 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:54 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.

People brought up race instantly saying that he wanted to call the rioters monkeys but couldn't beacuse then people would know hes a racist what are you talking about.


Yes, but HE brought it up. No one was talking about race until his little tantrum. Up until then everything was race neutral. Unless you can find me something that suggests otherwise.

I cant.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
September 22 2016 20:58 GMT
#102036
On September 23 2016 05:57 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:50 Nebuchad wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:47 biology]major wrote:
The irony of all this is the very people who think the dehumanizing language is referring to black people are actually the ones who have those prejudiced ideas to begin with. Change the color of their skin to purple or green, still animals that have abandoned their humanity. They are redeemable however, it would take some self reflection.


We also saw you call white people monkeys every time they rioted against the labour law in France.

Except we didn't.


Show me the video and if they're acting like monkeys and it will make you feel better I can call them all monkey vermin animals too. It doesn't bother me I'm sorry it bothers you


Well of course you can do it after you've been triggered into doing it, that's not very hard. What we would like to know is if you would do it instinctively, not after we've had a conversation where you said you would.

Funnily enough, vermin and monkeys aren't terms that tend to appear when we watch white people riot. But hey, must be just a coincidence.


Speak for yourself I often think to myself 'fucking monkey' when someone is acting like an idiot (and more often than not it's a white person)
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 22 2016 20:58 GMT
#102037
On September 23 2016 05:55 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:54 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.

People brought up race instantly saying that he wanted to call the rioters monkeys but couldn't beacuse then people would know hes a racist what are you talking about.

Yep. This situation is a good example of why I try to limit my interactions with people who fail at basic reading comprehension. It just isn't productive.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 20:59:46
September 22 2016 20:59 GMT
#102038
On September 23 2016 05:57 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:55 Sermokala wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:54 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.


None of the liberals here brought up race. Your friend GG did. To be fair Plansix gets baited pretty easily and then it just rolled from there.

If you are going to accuse people of doing something get your facts in order.

People brought up race instantly saying that he wanted to call the rioters monkeys but couldn't beacuse then people would know hes a racist what are you talking about.


Yes, but HE brought it up. No one was talking about race until his little tantrum. Up until then everything was race neutral.


I suggest you go reread like I did because you're still confused about the fact that I didn't bring up race

Stop spreading lies; it's deplorable
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5795 Posts
September 22 2016 20:59 GMT
#102039
On September 23 2016 05:45 Nebuchad wrote:
You sound kind of deplorable, GGTeMpLaR.


On September 23 2016 05:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:45 Nebuchad wrote:
You sound kind of deplorable, GGTeMpLaR.


You're kind of a pseudointellectual, Nebuchad.

This is why HRC trying to be nuanced in her attacks on 'deplorables' doesn't work, if I said I thought half of the archons on this page were shitposters and half were raising legitimate concerns, you'd both see it as a personal insult and neither would take it as a compliment and feel flattered by me, you'd think I was condescending (it's a hypothetical, I think you're both fine).
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23547 Posts
September 22 2016 20:59 GMT
#102040
On September 23 2016 05:54 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:51 xDaunt wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:43 oBlade wrote:
It's not blackness, it's the rioting, looting, assaults, and arson. If you want to make this about race it's somehow suggesting these are aspects of black identity, which is absurd. Surely you can argue how arsonists are people too without making it a racial issue.


This is what's so hilarious. It's the liberals who make everything about race. My comments have been completely race neutral, yet here we have the usual suspects trying to contort what I'm saying into a racist attack. This is why the PC left is so intellectually bankrupt and why the assault upon them by the alt right has been so successful and will continue to be so.

You said BLM are vermin. I don't know if you're unaware what the B in BLM stands for. Perhaps you were referring to the Bureau of Land Management.

Actually, you know what, I'm done giving you the benefit of the doubt. You're a racist.


Finally.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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