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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 22 2016 20:17 GMT
#101981
On September 23 2016 05:15 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 04:13 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 03:53 biology]major wrote:
If the races were reversed in that clip, just imagine the national outrage.


Well atleast he didnt get shot.

But yeah anyone who even touched a hair on that guys head for whatever reason should be having a mugshot taken imo.

White man getting beat up but should be happy he didn't get shot? Seriously?

Its just a joke, I don’t know why you need to be so sensitive? Can’t you take a joke? /s

Seriously, those guys should be charged and likely will be. That is what video is fore.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 22 2016 20:17 GMT
#101982
On September 23 2016 05:09 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:06 Plansix wrote:
..."The vermin"...


What else do you call these creatures that are destroying police cars, setting fires, looting, and beating white people just for being white? These aren't people, these aren't law abiding citizens, these aren't the law abiding black people that are mistreated, these are beasts that nees to be taken off the streets.

the xdaunt "vermin" statement would appear to refer to BLM, rather than the looters/rioters. Thus it would include people peacefully protesting under the BLM banner.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
September 22 2016 20:18 GMT
#101983
On September 23 2016 05:09 biology]major wrote:
maybe thugs? or degenerates?


Deplorables xD
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
September 22 2016 20:18 GMT
#101984
We are calling them creatures in the sense that they have abandoned their humanity to appease their base instincts, its visibly obvious if you have seen any of the action.
Question.?
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 22 2016 20:19 GMT
#101985
On September 23 2016 05:15 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 04:13 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 03:53 biology]major wrote:
If the races were reversed in that clip, just imagine the national outrage.


Well atleast he didnt get shot.

But yeah anyone who even touched a hair on that guys head for whatever reason should be having a mugshot taken imo.

White man getting beat up but should be happy he didn't get shot? Seriously?


that's not what the guy said that you're responding to. I think you need to reread what he said. particularly the second part.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 22 2016 20:19 GMT
#101986
On September 23 2016 05:16 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:11 Plansix wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:09 hunts wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:06 Plansix wrote:
..."The vermin"...


What else do you call these creatures that are destroying police cars, setting fires, looting, and beating white people just for being white? These aren't people, these aren't law abiding citizens, these aren't the law abiding black people that are mistreated, these are beasts that nees to be taken off the streets.

...Creatures....

This is some enlightening shit guys. Don't hold back.


I think you're being a little unfair. I don't think they are saying all the protesters are vermin or creatures or whatever. They are saying these distinctly shitty people who are beating people and trying to toss people into fire (WTF) are indeed pieces of shit. We shouldn't have any reservations about labeling violent protesters are awful, awful people. Plenty of peaceful protesters who don't try to throw people into flaming trash cans.

Dehumanzing people is bad, even with they are terrible criminals. Just call them criminals.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 22 2016 20:19 GMT
#101987
On September 23 2016 05:04 xDaunt wrote:
One of these mayors where BLM is wreaking havoc needs to grow a pair and clear the vermin out. Regardless of the merits of the alleged grievance spurring these protests, the situation is unacceptably out of control.

I really hope some of these communities demand better law and order response to rioters. This one is crystal clear case in point. They're much more scared of the media on violent rioters than getting removed by the nonviolent population they're sworn to protect.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 22 2016 20:21 GMT
#101988
Interesting stat :



Backs up my initial confusion at the whole mess as Charlotte was one of the first places to actually arrest a cop for shooting someone anyways (trial ended with a hung jury).
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
September 22 2016 20:21 GMT
#101989
*Call everyone supporting Trump over Clinton deplorable*

Oh that's okay they are they deserve it

*Call violent criminals attacking someone begging for mercy thugs*

RACIST FILTH!

Oh thread, never change
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 22 2016 20:22 GMT
#101990
On September 23 2016 05:15 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 04:13 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 03:53 biology]major wrote:
If the races were reversed in that clip, just imagine the national outrage.


Well atleast he didnt get shot.

But yeah anyone who even touched a hair on that guys head for whatever reason should be having a mugshot taken imo.

White man getting beat up but should be happy he didn't get shot? Seriously?


It was a joke, a deliberately bad one. My followup to that comment should have made it obvious. Maybe if you didnt flare up and read the entire thing...
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4908 Posts
September 22 2016 20:23 GMT
#101991
On September 23 2016 05:21 Nevuk wrote:
Interesting stat :
https://twitter.com/ErinBurnett/status/779033350065520640


Backs up my initial confusion at the whole mess as Charlotte was one of the first places to actually arrest a cop for shooting someone anyways (trial ended with a hung jury).


Wasn't something like that true in Ferguson? Or were those rumors?

Professional agitators.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 22 2016 20:23 GMT
#101992
On September 23 2016 05:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
*Call everyone supporting Trump over Clinton deplorable*

Oh that's okay they are they deserve it

*Call violent criminals attacking someone begging for mercy thugs*

RACIST FILTH!

Oh thread, never change

strawman and lie about what was actually said and done to look better?

par for the course.

improvement happens when you act better than the other side.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 22 2016 20:25 GMT
#101993
On September 23 2016 05:19 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:15 Danglars wrote:
On September 23 2016 04:13 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 03:53 biology]major wrote:
If the races were reversed in that clip, just imagine the national outrage.


Well atleast he didnt get shot.

But yeah anyone who even touched a hair on that guys head for whatever reason should be having a mugshot taken imo.

White man getting beat up but should be happy he didn't get shot? Seriously?


that's not what the guy said that you're responding to. I think you need to reread what he said. particularly the second part.

He walked it back to make sure people didn't think it was entirely justified. But I take it you have no moral qualms about it to the point where you yourself might've pointed out he was lucky not to be shot.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 22 2016 20:25 GMT
#101994
On September 23 2016 05:23 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
*Call everyone supporting Trump over Clinton deplorable*

Oh that's okay they are they deserve it

*Call violent criminals attacking someone begging for mercy thugs*

RACIST FILTH!

Oh thread, never change

strawman and lie about what was actually said and done to look better?

par for the course.

improvement happens when you act better than the other side.

As always: Name calling =/= dehumanizing. Vermin was used because monkeys would be a little to telling.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 22 2016 20:26 GMT
#101995
On September 23 2016 05:25 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:19 zlefin wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:15 Danglars wrote:
On September 23 2016 04:13 Rebs wrote:
On September 23 2016 03:53 biology]major wrote:
If the races were reversed in that clip, just imagine the national outrage.


Well atleast he didnt get shot.

But yeah anyone who even touched a hair on that guys head for whatever reason should be having a mugshot taken imo.

White man getting beat up but should be happy he didn't get shot? Seriously?


that's not what the guy said that you're responding to. I think you need to reread what he said. particularly the second part.

He walked it back to make sure people didn't think it was entirely justified. But I take it you have no moral qualms about it to the point where you yourself might've pointed out he was lucky not to be shot.

I'm not clear what you're saying about me, please clarify.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23669 Posts
September 22 2016 20:26 GMT
#101996
On September 23 2016 05:23 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:21 Nevuk wrote:
Interesting stat :
https://twitter.com/ErinBurnett/status/779033350065520640


Backs up my initial confusion at the whole mess as Charlotte was one of the first places to actually arrest a cop for shooting someone anyways (trial ended with a hung jury).


Wasn't something like that true in Ferguson? Or were those rumors?

Professional agitators.


Not so much "professional agitators" as opportunistic criminals mixed with people that are just fed up.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
September 22 2016 20:27 GMT
#101997
On September 23 2016 05:25 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:23 zlefin wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
*Call everyone supporting Trump over Clinton deplorable*

Oh that's okay they are they deserve it

*Call violent criminals attacking someone begging for mercy thugs*

RACIST FILTH!

Oh thread, never change

strawman and lie about what was actually said and done to look better?

par for the course.

improvement happens when you act better than the other side.

As always: Name calling =/= dehumanizing. Vermin was used because monkeys would be a little to telling.


It's okay to dehumanize Trump voters but not criminals

got it.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-22 20:30:22
September 22 2016 20:27 GMT
#101998
On September 23 2016 05:23 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
*Call everyone supporting Drumpf over Clinton deplorable*

Oh that's okay they are they deserve it

*Call violent criminals attacking someone begging for mercy thugs*

RACIST FILTH!

Oh thread, never change

strawman and lie about what was actually said and done to look better?

par for the course.

improvement happens when you act better than the other side.



Lol if I followed this correctly.

"look at this guys, its so terrible, these people are animals."

"Yes you are right this is wrong, and these people should be punished for it."

"You guys are so biased, everyone is up in arms over shot black people but white guys getting beat up is deserved."

WUT ? Thats like.. unbelievable.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22112 Posts
September 22 2016 20:29 GMT
#101999
On September 23 2016 05:27 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2016 05:25 Plansix wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:23 zlefin wrote:
On September 23 2016 05:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
*Call everyone supporting Trump over Clinton deplorable*

Oh that's okay they are they deserve it

*Call violent criminals attacking someone begging for mercy thugs*

RACIST FILTH!

Oh thread, never change

strawman and lie about what was actually said and done to look better?

par for the course.

improvement happens when you act better than the other side.

As always: Name calling =/= dehumanizing. Vermin was used because monkeys would be a little to telling.


It's okay to dehumanize Trump voters but not criminals

got it.

you wanne take a 3e try at retelling the conversation that happened?
Because you still have it wrong.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12402 Posts
September 22 2016 20:29 GMT
#102000
On September 23 2016 05:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
*Call everyone supporting Trump over Clinton deplorable*

Oh that's okay they are they deserve it

*Call violent criminals attacking someone begging for mercy thugs*

RACIST FILTH!

Oh thread, never change


She said half of them are deplorables, not all of them.

But please, don't let that stop you from complaining.
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