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Drumpf, what a guy. Saying it's sad we are not horrible monsters like the terrorist. That we treat wounded people and give them trials. That is it sad we don't punish them like we used to. You know what he means. The good old days.
Disgusting. The man bemoans the Constitution that prohibits cruel and unusual a punishment.
61% of the US population supports the death penalty (at least in principle). Obviously it's fairly prohibitive in terms of cost.
When the average American doesn't even have a 4 year degree, citing consensus as a justification for morality doesn't make much sense. Support of an idea being widespread does not make it morally justifiable. Consider the percentage of Egypt that supports various forms of barbarism that we scoff at. Sure, our country is significantly more educated, cultured and whatnot, but it is still an example of widespread support for complete horseshit. I know I don't need to bring up the typical example of slavery.
Drumpf, what a guy. Saying it's sad we are not horrible monsters like the terrorist. That we treat wounded people and give them trials. That is it sad we don't punish them like we used to. You know what he means. The good old days.
Disgusting. The man bemoans the Constitution that prohibits cruel and unusual a punishment.
61% of the US population supports the death penalty (at least in principle). Obviously it's fairly prohibitive in terms of cost.
What is wrong with you calling 60% of the population disgusting? Maybe you should start to realize a sizeable majority of the US just straight up don't agree with you, so maybe you should change your outlook on the world and that it doesn't revolve around you instead of shitting on everyone?
This is literally an appeal to majority, as in the classic error of judgement. If 60% of x country support stoning adulterers, you would defend that I assume?
No, but in the same sense I wont go call 25% of the US population deplorable, or call 60% of the population disgusting.
That is not how you achieve unity.
Seriously, I come to this thread frequently enough, and Plansix is such an awful shit poster who just tries to demonize everyone who doesn't agree with him. It's a very uninviting environment to have a conversation in.
This is a discussion board, not the UN. No one is going for "unity" here. This is a place of philosophical/ethical/political discourse, not bringing people together around a common goal.
Alright, I've gotten a bit worked up, because some people have had really bad arguments for the last hour or two, so I apologize if I'm being a bit rude or harsh.
That said, I completely disagree with you on anything to do with 4 year degrees here. Capital punishment is a question of morality and philosophy, that is not something that anyone should have a bigger voice on than someone else for, regardless of how much more educated and how much more money they have. Dealing with foreign relations, sure, let the experts do that, dealing with deciding whether the Death Penalty is just? No.
Do you know what Habeas Corpus is?
And habeas corpus is relevant here because.....?
because everything ? I guess we should just remove peoples rights when we feel like it. How very Repub... oh wait...
Nothing Fiwi said had anything to do with it, accept the part where he posted a twitter link with Trumps statement.
And how exactly is this post responsive to anything that I said?
You liberals need to calm the fuck down. You're all going bananas. There's going to be a new ICD code for Trump-related mental disorders at this rate. Posts like the above and kwarks are just utterly ridiculous.
On September 20 2016 08:31 Mohdoo wrote: I'm an admin on a site that Stonetear used to post on. He just had a bit of a breakdown and went on a posting-spree about cancer and how Microsoft is at fault for his link to Clinton.
Rather unique username and he registered in 2005. Hard to imagine it isn't him, but maybe I'm wrong. We deleted all his other posts (dude is a maniac), but I undeleted this for people to see if anyone cares.
Can someone bring me up to date with this?
Is he Hillary's IT guy who tried to alter Hillary's emails to get rid of some shitty/controversial stuff, and he was found posting on reddit asking how to do it, and people connected the two people together?
On September 20 2016 07:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I'm not taking a stance on Habeus Corpus, but Abraham Lincoln suspended it for two years and history considers him one of the greatest presidents of our nation to this day in spite of that fact. Just something I find mildly amusing.
He isn't remembered for that and I would argue that a lot of shit that happened during the civil war shouldn't be taken as a model for future conflicts. The suspension of Habeus Corpus included.
Oh of course. I just think it is mildly amusing to put things into perspective.
"X is such a terrible thing" "Y is such a great person in history"
Most people are unaware of or would even consider the possibility that Y could have done X. A great national hero widely admired by all in our modern society doing something we consider morally reprehensible is just one of those mildly amusing ironies of history.
Not really. I think most people with a working knowledge of history are pretty aware that the vast majority of people born before, say, 1950 in the west and probably 2050 in much of the rest of the world, were pieces of shit. If judged by current standards that is. Hell, our grandchildren will probably say the same of us. That's progress.
"Everyone who preceded me is a shitty person, everyone who comes from the rest of the world is shitty, but my culture and I have reached that tipping point where we have become good people."
That's pretty much what this statement is.
Yep, pretty much.
Instead of calling everyone in history an awful human being, I think it's more appropriate to just say different environment, different beliefs and values. There's no golden standard to compare to that we're trying to reach, so different is a better word to use than worse imo. If you're going to judge someone's character, the best way to do it is probably to take the people who this person communicates with, and impacts the lives of - living at the same time as them... And get your assessment from there.
The timeline here seems pretty decent
An army of reddit users believes it has found evidence that former Hillary Clinton computer specialist Paul Combetta solicited free advice regarding Clinton's private email server from users of the popular web forum.
A collaborative investigation showed a reddit user with the username stonetear requested help in relation to retaining and purging email messages after 60 days, and requested advice on how to remove a "VERY VIP" individual's email address from archived content.
The requests match neatly with publicly known dates related to Clinton's use of a private email server while secretary of state.
Stonetear has deleted the posts, but before doing so, the pages were archived by other individuals.
"ARCHIVE EVERYTHING YOU CAN!!!!" a person wrote on a popular thread on the Donald Trump-supporting subreddit r/The_Donald, as the entries disappeared.
There are several reasons to believe the reddit user is indeed Combetta, who was granted immunity by the Justice Department during its investigation of Clinton's private server after he deleted a large number of emails.
The evidence connecting Combetta to the account is circumstantial, but also voluminous. The inactive website combetta.com is registered to the email address stonetear@gmail.com, a search of domain registration information using the service whois.com indicates. An account for a person named Paul Combetta on the web bazaar Etsy also has the username stonetear.
And, perhaps most damningly, there are the dates.
On July 24, 2014, stonetear posted to reddit:
Hello all- I may be facing a very interesting situation where I need to strip out a VIP's (VERY VIP) email address from a bunch of archived email that I have both in a live Exchange mailbox, as well as a PST file. Basically, they don't want the VIP's email address exposed to anyone, and want to be able to either strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails we want to send out. I am not sure if something like this is possible with PowerShell, or exporting all of the emails to MSG and doing find/replaces with a batch processing program of some sort. Does anyone have experience with something like this, and/or suggestions on how this might be accomplished? On July 23, 2014, the House Select Committee on Benghazi had reached an agreement with the State Department on the production of records, according to an FBI report released earlier this month on the bureau's probe of her email use.
Stonetear posted to reddit on Dec. 10, 2014:
Hello- I have a client who wants to push out a 60 day email retention policy for certain users. However, they also want these users to have a 'Save Folder' in their Exchange folder list where the users can drop items that they want to hang onto longer than the 60 day window. All email in any other folder in the mailbox should purge anything older than 60 days (should not apply to calendar or contact items of course). How would I go about this? Some combination of retention and managed folder policy? The FBI report says that Cheryl Mills, a longtime Clinton aide and attorney, requested in December 2014 that the email retention policy be shortened to 60 days. The FBI report says Mills "instructed [redacted] to modify the email retention policy on Clinton's clintonemail.com e-mail account" but that "according to [redacted] he did not make these changes to Clinton's clintonemail.com account until March 2015."
Hillary Clinton looks at her mobile phone after attending a Russia-U.S. meeting on the sidelines of a meeting in Hanoi, Vietnam, on July 23, 2010. The former secretary of state's use of a private email server has been criticized for making secrets vulnerable to hackers and foreign governments.
The report says the person, essentially identified as Combetta by The New York Times, realized in late March 2015 that he had not made the retention change and "had an 'oh sh--' moment and sometime between March 25-31, 2015, deleted the Clinton archive mailbox from the [Platte River Networks] server and used BleachBit to deleted [sic] the exported .PST files he had created on the server system containing Clinton's emails."
An email requesting comment sent to stonetear@gmail.com was not immediately returned, nor was a reddit message sent to stonetear, who also posted apparently nonbusiness content to reddit, including a photo of a small plant growing on filthy car-floor carpet and a comment about an aunt who taught middle school math in Detroit.
Kristian Saucier, pictured in uniform, was sentenced Friday after pleading guilty earlier this year to taking and retaining photos containing "confidential" information.
Last week, Combetta invoked the right not to testify before the House oversight committee, which is probing Clinton's email practices.
A voicemail left with Platte River Networks, Combetta's employer, was not immediately returned. A staffer indicated there had been a significant number of inquiries on the topic.
Ken Eichner, an attorney for the company, tells U.S. News he is acting as a spokesman addressing the matter, and that he would not be able to comment. He did not deny the apparent connection.
"Right now we are respectfully declining all media inquiries," Eichner said. He said there would be no company statement, before hanging up the phone and ignoring a subsequent call.
On September 20 2016 07:33 KwarK wrote: Not really. I think most people with a working knowledge of history are pretty aware that the vast majority of people born before, say, 1950 in the west and probably 2050 in much of the rest of the world, were pieces of shit.
The difference between us and the rest of the world and history is that we have more money.
On September 20 2016 08:31 Mohdoo wrote: I'm an admin on a site that Stonetear used to post on. He just had a bit of a breakdown and went on a posting-spree about cancer and how Microsoft is at fault for his link to Clinton.
Rather unique username and he registered in 2005. Hard to imagine it isn't him, but maybe I'm wrong. We deleted all his other posts (dude is a maniac), but I undeleted this for people to see if anyone cares.
Eh, it's two common words, could easily be someone else. Especially if you google it with a space a lot of stuff comes up, gaming related in particular.
Unless you have reason to believe otherwise based on his posting before this news.
We, the admins, just confirmed it is straight up him. Won't post here for personal reasons, but this is legit him based on other evidence.
On September 20 2016 08:31 Mohdoo wrote: I'm an admin on a site that Stonetear used to post on. He just had a bit of a breakdown and went on a posting-spree about cancer and how Microsoft is at fault for his link to Clinton.
Rather unique username and he registered in 2005. Hard to imagine it isn't him, but maybe I'm wrong. We deleted all his other posts (dude is a maniac), but I undeleted this for people to see if anyone cares.
Eh, it's two common words, could easily be someone else. Especially if you google it with a space a lot of stuff comes up, gaming related in particular.
Unless you have reason to believe otherwise based on his posting before this news.
We, the admins, just confirmed it is straight up him. Won't post here for personal reasons, but this is legit him based on other evidence.
News places will probably definitely be interested in his posting spree, given the weird timing
On September 20 2016 08:31 Mohdoo wrote: I'm an admin on a site that Stonetear used to post on. He just had a bit of a breakdown and went on a posting-spree about cancer and how Microsoft is at fault for his link to Clinton.
Rather unique username and he registered in 2005. Hard to imagine it isn't him, but maybe I'm wrong. We deleted all his other posts (dude is a maniac), but I undeleted this for people to see if anyone cares.
Eh, it's two common words, could easily be someone else. Especially if you google it with a space a lot of stuff comes up, gaming related in particular.
Unless you have reason to believe otherwise based on his posting before this news.
We, the admins, just confirmed it is straight up him. Won't post here for personal reasons, but this is legit him based on other evidence.
His email address he signed up with is stonetear@gmail.com? Haha
If you spill the beans here TL can get into the news. Poor guy, just someone who like RTS's who let stuff get in over his head.
I can't believe that someone asked on reddit how to deleat Clinton's emails and used a username that can be traced to him through a google search. That's a new level of hilarious incompetence
On September 20 2016 08:31 Mohdoo wrote: I'm an admin on a site that Stonetear used to post on. He just had a bit of a breakdown and went on a posting-spree about cancer and how Microsoft is at fault for his link to Clinton.
Rather unique username and he registered in 2005. Hard to imagine it isn't him, but maybe I'm wrong. We deleted all his other posts (dude is a maniac), but I undeleted this for people to see if anyone cares.
Eh, it's two common words, could easily be someone else. Especially if you google it with a space a lot of stuff comes up, gaming related in particular.
Unless you have reason to believe otherwise based on his posting before this news.
We, the admins, just confirmed it is straight up him. Won't post here for personal reasons, but this is legit him based on other evidence.
His email address he signed up with is stonetear@gmail.com? Haha
If you spill the beans here TL can get into the news. Poor guy, just someone who like RTS's who let stuff get in over his head.
No, all we know is that he used an address associated with him. Won't say which address..And who knows, maybe this all inspired someone to hack his account.
On September 20 2016 09:11 Nyxisto wrote: I can't believe that someone asked on reddit how to deleat Clinton's emails and used a username that can be traced to him through a google search. That's a new level of hilarious incompetence
Hillary, the DNC, and related parties have not proven themselves to have any reasonable level of technical competence in recent times, all things considered.
I'm loving this new trump talking point about how hrc talks tougher aginst trump supporters than she does vs radical Islamic terrorists. He should ride this one all the way into the White House, maybe mention her ties to Saudi while he's at it too.
On September 20 2016 08:31 Mohdoo wrote: I'm an admin on a site that Stonetear used to post on. He just had a bit of a breakdown and went on a posting-spree about cancer and how Microsoft is at fault for his link to Clinton.
Rather unique username and he registered in 2005. Hard to imagine it isn't him, but maybe I'm wrong. We deleted all his other posts (dude is a maniac), but I undeleted this for people to see if anyone cares.
Eh, it's two common words, could easily be someone else. Especially if you google it with a space a lot of stuff comes up, gaming related in particular.
Unless you have reason to believe otherwise based on his posting before this news.
We, the admins, just confirmed it is straight up him. Won't post here for personal reasons, but this is legit him based on other evidence.
His email address he signed up with is stonetear@gmail.com? Haha
If you spill the beans here TL can get into the news. Poor guy, just someone who like RTS's who let stuff get in over his head.
No, all we know is that he used an address associated with him. Won't say which address..And who knows, maybe this all inspired someone to hack his account.
How many posts did he have on the site beforehand? It does seem like a ... very obscure site to use to vent politically, tbh.
On the other hand who the hell bothers to hack it? Either way it's bizarre
On September 20 2016 09:11 Nyxisto wrote: I can't believe that someone asked on reddit how to deleat Clinton's emails and used a username that can be traced to him through a google search. That's a new level of hilarious incompetence
It seems like an orgy of circumstantial evidence. It could be true, or hilariously fake. Comical to a high degree.
On September 20 2016 08:31 Mohdoo wrote: I'm an admin on a site that Stonetear used to post on. He just had a bit of a breakdown and went on a posting-spree about cancer and how Microsoft is at fault for his link to Clinton.
Rather unique username and he registered in 2005. Hard to imagine it isn't him, but maybe I'm wrong. We deleted all his other posts (dude is a maniac), but I undeleted this for people to see if anyone cares.
Eh, it's two common words, could easily be someone else. Especially if you google it with a space a lot of stuff comes up, gaming related in particular.
Unless you have reason to believe otherwise based on his posting before this news.
We, the admins, just confirmed it is straight up him. Won't post here for personal reasons, but this is legit him based on other evidence.
His email address he signed up with is stonetear@gmail.com? Haha
If you spill the beans here TL can get into the news. Poor guy, just someone who like RTS's who let stuff get in over his head.
No, all we know is that he used an address associated with him. Won't say which address..And who knows, maybe this all inspired someone to hack his account.
How many posts did he have on the site beforehand? It does seem like a ... very obscure site to use to vent politically, tbh.
On the other hand who the hell bothers to hack it? Either way it's bizarre
it says 17, but i can only see one post under view forum posts. more interesting to ask is, what was the last time he'd logged in before this?
Originally Posted by Mohdoo JJ, undeleted the post above yours because it looks like he is a former WCR poster. This is officially amazing, lol. also look at these other post he posted before i banned him
On September 20 2016 09:19 biology]major wrote: I'm loving this new trump talking point about how hrc talks tougher aginst trump supporters than she does vs radical Islamic terrorists. He should ride this one all the way into the White House, maybe mention her ties to Saudi while he's at it too.
At least he explicitly makes it about TV style interaction. He's actually just saying that talking tough is the issue here. Donald Trump the politician was born in TV land and exists only there.
The guy's almost certainly for real. I can't tell if he's just a guy who couldn't figure out how to redact Clinton's email address and asked reddit for tech support or someone who got tangentially sucked into a sinister conspiracy.
The end result was just blanket deleting the emails either way. He's the reason the 30K had to be recovered I think.
On September 20 2016 09:42 TheTenthDoc wrote: The guy's almost certainly for real. I can't tell if he's just a guy who couldn't figure out how to redact Clinton's email address and asked reddit for tech support or someone who got tangentially sucked into a sinister conspiracy.
The end result was just blanket deleting the emails either way. He's the reason the 30K had to be recovered I think.
If I'm not mistaken the 30k was never recovered because it was double-deleted. They found a certain amount of the 30k due to other State people being on the email is my understanding.
On September 20 2016 09:42 TheTenthDoc wrote: The guy's almost certainly for real. I can't tell if he's just a guy who couldn't figure out how to redact Clinton's email address and asked reddit for tech support or someone who got tangentially sucked into a sinister conspiracy.
The end result was just blanket deleting the emails either way. He's the reason the 30K had to be recovered I think.
If I'm not mistaken the 30k was never recovered because it was double-deleted. They recovered a certain amount of the 30k due to other State people being on the email is my understanding.
That is the neat thing about emails, two copies every time you send one.
On September 20 2016 09:42 TheTenthDoc wrote: The guy's almost certainly for real. I can't tell if he's just a guy who couldn't figure out how to redact Clinton's email address and asked reddit for tech support or someone who got tangentially sucked into a sinister conspiracy.
The end result was just blanket deleting the emails either way. He's the reason the 30K had to be recovered I think.
I don't get it. I can't imagine someone like this actually ends up working for Clinton. Is this not weird?
On September 20 2016 09:42 TheTenthDoc wrote: The guy's almost certainly for real. I can't tell if he's just a guy who couldn't figure out how to redact Clinton's email address and asked reddit for tech support or someone who got tangentially sucked into a sinister conspiracy.
The end result was just blanket deleting the emails either way. He's the reason the 30K had to be recovered I think.
I don't get it. I can't imagine someone like this actually ends up working for Clinton. Is this not weird?
It would be weird for them to go to Reddit for the advice, specifically how to get somethings to suit delete. Once people became convinced that it was some Clinton staffer, I'm not sure what the Reddit user could to to stop them from believing it.
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