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On September 12 2016 12:03 plasmidghost wrote:+ Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/AP/status/775160973065908224
Given that Hillary's campaign said the cause of the earlier incident was the heat, then allergies, then finally admitted it was pneumonia, I have no reason to think that they're finally being honest. This just makes it seem more and more like she has a severe illness
1. Have allergies, so you cough and sneeze, thus more likely getting shit into your lungs
2. Shit = bacteria and such, boom pneumonia, you feel sick and are more dehydrated
3. It's hot and humid, you get heatstroke more easily because you're ill and have temperature regulation issues
Add to that she's not a spring chicken and has been hopping across the US campaigning. It's a pretty reasonable explanation.
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It was 70 degrees fahrenheit, how in the hell is that hot?
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Except it wasn't all together. They said these were three different excuses nevermind it wasn't humid, nor hot at the time.
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On September 12 2016 12:12 bo1b wrote:
It was 70 degrees fahrenheit, how in the hell is that hot?
I've heard it was 80, but I've seen plenty of pictures of people in shorts in NY today, both in random news pictures and posts from friends. So I assume it was shorts wearing weather. It doesn't take much to knock over someone who's already sick.
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I just went to the snow and there were people in shorts and t-shirts going down the mountain, should I look at them and say it's hot and humid?
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If she was febrile and weak, then I can understand her collapsing like that. But if that was the case, then I have trouble understanding why she was out and about in the first place. It's all just very weird.
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Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of information we're not being given in regards to this whole situation
Either that or we're all just overthinking things, I have no way to know
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HRC will have to pony something up in a few days. That trip video is just too much. But I wonder if this health scare will force out Trump's health report too.
EDIT: I strongly suspect that Team Dittohead shitlording her health for the next week will backfire. This can't play well with a broader audience.
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On September 12 2016 12:27 plasmidghost wrote:
Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of information we're not being given in regards to this whole situation
Either that or we're all just overthinking things, I have no way to know
My curiosity can't let go of what the metal thing was. I was reasonably confident it was something mostly innocuous, but the continued silence has me growing skeptical of that assumption (unless I just missed it's explanation?).
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He won't. The media will him a favor by covering Clinton but also MSNBC doing loops to dismiss this. He can just just sit back and watch. Like his Mexico trip.
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On September 12 2016 12:26 xDaunt wrote:
If she was febrile and weak, then I can understand her collapsing like that. But if that was the case, then I have trouble understanding why she was out and about in the first place. It's all just very weird.
If she really was dehydrated and is suffering from pneumonia it's pretty easy for someone to faint while feeling okay ten minutes earlier. Try not drinking enough water after a bad hangover and stand around somewhere crowded for an hour or so, it's not like this has never happened before
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One of the reasons these events are blown up so much is the consistent voracity of Clinton supporters to deny anything of note ever happened. They're their own worst enemy.
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On September 12 2016 12:16 bo1b wrote:
I just went to the snow and there were people in shorts and t-shirts going down the mountain, should I look at them and say it's hot and humid?
wew lad
pack it up folks, this is perhaps the greatest argument ever argued in the us politcs megathread and all its predecessors.
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On September 12 2016 12:46 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2016 12:16 bo1b wrote:
I just went to the snow and there were people in shorts and t-shirts going down the mountain, should I look at them and say it's hot and humid? wew lad pack it up folks, this is perhaps the greatest argument ever argued in the us politcs megathread and all its predecessors.
You literally told me people were in shorts so it's hot and humid short wearing weather. Seem's to me that my sarcastic response is exactly whats deserved
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On September 12 2016 11:36 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2016 11:32 Danglars wrote:Cheney unloads Defeating our enemies has been made significantly more difficult by the policies of Barack Obama. No American president has done more to weaken the U.S., hobble our defenses or aid our adversaries.
President Obama has been more dedicated to reducing America’s power than to defeating our enemies. He has enhanced the abilities, reach and finances of our adversaries, including the world’s leading state sponsor of terror, at the expense of our allies and our own national security. He has overseen a decline of our own military capabilities as our adversaries’ strength has grown.
Our Air Force today is the oldest and smallest it has ever been. In January 2015, then-Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno testified that the Army was as unready as it had been at any other time in its history. Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan W. Greenert testified similarly that, “Navy readiness is at its lowest point in many years.”
Nearly half of the Marine Corps’ non-deployed units—the ones that respond to unforeseen contingencies—are suffering shortfalls, according to the commandant of the Corps, Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr. For the first time in decades, American supremacy in key areas can no longer be assured.
The president who came into office promising to end wars has made war more likely by diminishing America’s strength and deterrence ability. He doesn’t seem to understand that the credible threat of military force gives substance and meaning to our diplomacy. By reducing the size and strength of our forces, he has ensured that future wars will be longer, and put more American lives at risk. WSJObama's presidency truly has been historic, no joke. Are we supposed to take Cheney seriously? He was the VP during what is widely agreed upon as one of the worst presidencies in American history, and he definitely contributed to how poorly it went.
Obama might well take the cake fifty years from now, for the very reasons Cheney highlights. The shine hasn't yet worn off, nor has the country had to face the shattered reputation the US now has in the world.
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On September 12 2016 12:52 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2016 11:36 Stratos_speAr wrote:On September 12 2016 11:32 Danglars wrote:Cheney unloads Defeating our enemies has been made significantly more difficult by the policies of Barack Obama. No American president has done more to weaken the U.S., hobble our defenses or aid our adversaries.
President Obama has been more dedicated to reducing America’s power than to defeating our enemies. He has enhanced the abilities, reach and finances of our adversaries, including the world’s leading state sponsor of terror, at the expense of our allies and our own national security. He has overseen a decline of our own military capabilities as our adversaries’ strength has grown.
Our Air Force today is the oldest and smallest it has ever been. In January 2015, then-Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno testified that the Army was as unready as it had been at any other time in its history. Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan W. Greenert testified similarly that, “Navy readiness is at its lowest point in many years.”
Nearly half of the Marine Corps’ non-deployed units—the ones that respond to unforeseen contingencies—are suffering shortfalls, according to the commandant of the Corps, Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr. For the first time in decades, American supremacy in key areas can no longer be assured.
The president who came into office promising to end wars has made war more likely by diminishing America’s strength and deterrence ability. He doesn’t seem to understand that the credible threat of military force gives substance and meaning to our diplomacy. By reducing the size and strength of our forces, he has ensured that future wars will be longer, and put more American lives at risk. WSJObama's presidency truly has been historic, no joke. Are we supposed to take Cheney seriously? He was the VP during what is widely agreed upon as one of the worst presidencies in American history, and he definitely contributed to how poorly it went. Obama might well take the cake fifty years from now, for the very reasons Cheney highlights. The shine hasn't yet worn off, nor has the country had to face the shattered reputation the US now has in the world.
Really, Obama shattered the global reputation of the US more than George W. Bush? That's a... remarkable claim.
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For some reason when the GOP talks about international reputation the actual beliefs of people outside the US don't seem to matter. I'm pretty sure there's not a dozen people outside the US who actually consider Bush to be a better President than Obama.
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On September 12 2016 12:50 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2016 12:46 ticklishmusic wrote:On September 12 2016 12:16 bo1b wrote:
I just went to the snow and there were people in shorts and t-shirts going down the mountain, should I look at them and say it's hot and humid? wew lad pack it up folks, this is perhaps the greatest argument ever argued in the us politcs megathread and all its predecessors. You literally told me people were in shorts so it's hot and humid short wearing weather. Seem's to me that my sarcastic response is exactly whats deserved
Its unfortunate we don't live in an era where things can be looked up instantly and instead we're forced to speculate as to what temperature it could have been. I pray future generations will be able to come up with some sort of technological answer.
w1.weather.gov
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On September 12 2016 12:38 bo1b wrote:
One of the reasons these events are blown up so much is the consistent voracity of Clinton supporters to deny anything of note ever happened. They're their own worst enemy.
This is pretty accurate. I could see why people aren't too fond of right-wing attacks - I myself don't like them much - but goddamn, don't pretend Hillary doesn't have the flaws that we can very plainly she that she has.
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On September 12 2016 13:06 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2016 12:50 bo1b wrote:On September 12 2016 12:46 ticklishmusic wrote:On September 12 2016 12:16 bo1b wrote:
I just went to the snow and there were people in shorts and t-shirts going down the mountain, should I look at them and say it's hot and humid? wew lad pack it up folks, this is perhaps the greatest argument ever argued in the us politcs megathread and all its predecessors. You literally told me people were in shorts so it's hot and humid short wearing weather. Seem's to me that my sarcastic response is exactly whats deserved Its unfortunate we don't live in an era where things can be looked up instantly and instead we're forced to speculate as to what temperature it could have been. I pray future generations will be able to come up with some sort of technological answer. w1.weather.gov
Would you say that 80 f is sweltering humid heat?
I pray for future generations to look at something that is clearly horse shit and make conclusions.
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