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On September 01 2016 11:39 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:36 xDaunt wrote: The fearmongering in here is hilarious. You really did just not show up on the day they handed out the self awareness. He is the most non-partisan of all of us. Don't question one that is so superior to you.
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On September 01 2016 11:36 xDaunt wrote: The fearmongering in here is hilarious.
In his speech? I agree. Though scarey may be more apt.
Edit: damn, beat to it.
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On September 01 2016 11:37 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:32 zlefin wrote:On September 01 2016 11:29 biology]major wrote: Trump is killing it with this speech. Right after the Mexico visit, hope he gets a bump from this mostly seems like more of the usual to me. His supporters love it, other people find way to many issues to take issue with. Not bad as a speech I reckon, setting aside the vast flaws in the ideas. Tomorrow MSNBC will tell us how dark it was that he raised issues the people care about.
Is lying about our immigration system the best way to raise issues people care about?
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Remember the majority of illegal immigrants are actually Asians and not Mexicans.
And they contribute much more to the social safety net then they take out due to lack of registration for government benefits.
and to the economy with dirt cheap labor for jobs Americans don't want even before the terrible wages it would need to justify for them.
Words can't express properly just how bad this is in so many ways.
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On September 01 2016 11:41 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: This is disgusting. I didn't think would even sink to this. You mean like Mothers of the Movement? This was exactly my thought. And don't forget about how often they trot out the family members of gun violence victims.
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I'm sure Nieto is regretting standing on a stage with this guy today.
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On September 01 2016 11:41 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:37 oBlade wrote:On September 01 2016 11:32 zlefin wrote:On September 01 2016 11:29 biology]major wrote: Trump is killing it with this speech. Right after the Mexico visit, hope he gets a bump from this mostly seems like more of the usual to me. His supporters love it, other people find way to many issues to take issue with. Not bad as a speech I reckon, setting aside the vast flaws in the ideas. Tomorrow MSNBC will tell us how dark it was that he raised issues the people care about. Is lying about our immigration system the best way to raise issues people care about? For Trump, lying is always the answer. His supporters dislike truth.
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On September 01 2016 11:44 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:41 oBlade wrote:On September 01 2016 11:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: This is disgusting. I didn't think would even sink to this. You mean like Mothers of the Movement? This was exactly my thought. And don't forget about how often they trot out the family members of gun violence victims.
empathy only for leftist issues
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On September 01 2016 11:44 biology]major wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:44 xDaunt wrote:On September 01 2016 11:41 oBlade wrote:On September 01 2016 11:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: This is disgusting. I didn't think would even sink to this. You mean like Mothers of the Movement? This was exactly my thought. And don't forget about how often they trot out the family members of gun violence victims. empathy only for leftist issues
Except they weren't saying that only one person and action could have saved their loved ones.
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On September 01 2016 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:44 biology]major wrote:On September 01 2016 11:44 xDaunt wrote:On September 01 2016 11:41 oBlade wrote:On September 01 2016 11:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: This is disgusting. I didn't think would even sink to this. You mean like Mothers of the Movement? This was exactly my thought. And don't forget about how often they trot out the family members of gun violence victims. empathy only for leftist issues Except they weren't saying that only one person and action could have saved their loved ones. Trump is superman after all. He could have saved them all, if it wasn't for the evil democrats.
There is something really gross about taking someone and telling them you could have saved their loved ones, so they should support you. That is not a trick the democrats pull out. And it isn't empathy. It is the act of an experienced con-artist praying on grief.
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On September 01 2016 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:44 biology]major wrote:On September 01 2016 11:44 xDaunt wrote:On September 01 2016 11:41 oBlade wrote:On September 01 2016 11:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: This is disgusting. I didn't think would even sink to this. You mean like Mothers of the Movement? This was exactly my thought. And don't forget about how often they trot out the family members of gun violence victims. empathy only for leftist issues Except they weren't saying that only one person and action could have saved their loved ones.
Oh, so it's not okay for people to say that Trump could have saved their loved ones from criminal illegal immigrants. I'm just going to hazard a guess that you think it was okay for Obama to talk about how electing him would "be the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."
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On September 01 2016 11:47 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On September 01 2016 11:44 biology]major wrote:On September 01 2016 11:44 xDaunt wrote:On September 01 2016 11:41 oBlade wrote:On September 01 2016 11:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: This is disgusting. I didn't think would even sink to this. You mean like Mothers of the Movement? This was exactly my thought. And don't forget about how often they trot out the family members of gun violence victims. empathy only for leftist issues Except they weren't saying that only one person and action could have saved their loved ones. Trump is superman after all. He could have saved them all, if it wasn't for the evil democrats. There is something really gross about taking someone and telling them you could have saved their loved ones, so they should support you. That is not a trick the democrats pull out. And it isn't empathy. It is the act of an experienced con-artist praying on grief. Those people must have volunteered or agreed to speak. He's not supporting the 2nd amendment just so he can hold a gun to people's heads and force them to speak at rallies.
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On September 01 2016 11:52 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On September 01 2016 11:44 biology]major wrote:On September 01 2016 11:44 xDaunt wrote:On September 01 2016 11:41 oBlade wrote:On September 01 2016 11:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: This is disgusting. I didn't think would even sink to this. You mean like Mothers of the Movement? This was exactly my thought. And don't forget about how often they trot out the family members of gun violence victims. empathy only for leftist issues Except they weren't saying that only one person and action could have saved their loved ones. Oh, so it's not okay for people to say that Trump could have saved their loved ones from criminal illegal immigrants. I'm just going to hazard a guess that you think it was okay for Obama to talk about how electing him would "be the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal." So you see demonizing an entire race group based on their potential immigration status is equivalent to platitudes about environmentalism?
One could cause widespread race based hate crimes and the other might cause people to want to save the environment.
On September 01 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:47 Plansix wrote:On September 01 2016 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On September 01 2016 11:44 biology]major wrote:On September 01 2016 11:44 xDaunt wrote:On September 01 2016 11:41 oBlade wrote:On September 01 2016 11:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: This is disgusting. I didn't think would even sink to this. You mean like Mothers of the Movement? This was exactly my thought. And don't forget about how often they trot out the family members of gun violence victims. empathy only for leftist issues Except they weren't saying that only one person and action could have saved their loved ones. Trump is superman after all. He could have saved them all, if it wasn't for the evil democrats. There is something really gross about taking someone and telling them you could have saved their loved ones, so they should support you. That is not a trick the democrats pull out. And it isn't empathy. It is the act of an experienced con-artist praying on grief. Those people must have volunteered or agreed to speak. He's not supporting the 2nd amendment just so he can hold a gun to people's heads and force them to speak at rallies. hes presenting them right after saying this next election is the last chance we have before mass chaos and violence enculfs the nation. There is a difference that you are missing here.
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On September 01 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:47 Plansix wrote:On September 01 2016 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On September 01 2016 11:44 biology]major wrote:On September 01 2016 11:44 xDaunt wrote:On September 01 2016 11:41 oBlade wrote:On September 01 2016 11:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: This is disgusting. I didn't think would even sink to this. You mean like Mothers of the Movement? This was exactly my thought. And don't forget about how often they trot out the family members of gun violence victims. empathy only for leftist issues Except they weren't saying that only one person and action could have saved their loved ones. Trump is superman after all. He could have saved them all, if it wasn't for the evil democrats. There is something really gross about taking someone and telling them you could have saved their loved ones, so they should support you. That is not a trick the democrats pull out. And it isn't empathy. It is the act of an experienced con-artist praying on grief. Those people must have volunteered or agreed to speak. He's not supporting the 2nd amendment just so he can hold a gun to people's heads and force them to speak at rallies. That changes nothing about what I said, but good just posting.
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I mean I have my (many) issues with the speech, Trump's policies, and his trustworthiness, but this thread is some next level stuff.
And the funniest thing of all? Trump said almost nothing about non-criminal illegal aliens already here (I had to stop listening part way through, but from what I'm reading he didn't say anything explicitly). He still isn't primary Trump. He's politician-in-the-wind Trump. And people are still going wild.
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On September 01 2016 11:58 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2016 11:57 oBlade wrote:On September 01 2016 11:47 Plansix wrote:On September 01 2016 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On September 01 2016 11:44 biology]major wrote:On September 01 2016 11:44 xDaunt wrote:On September 01 2016 11:41 oBlade wrote:On September 01 2016 11:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: This is disgusting. I didn't think would even sink to this. You mean like Mothers of the Movement? This was exactly my thought. And don't forget about how often they trot out the family members of gun violence victims. empathy only for leftist issues Except they weren't saying that only one person and action could have saved their loved ones. Trump is superman after all. He could have saved them all, if it wasn't for the evil democrats. There is something really gross about taking someone and telling them you could have saved their loved ones, so they should support you. That is not a trick the democrats pull out. And it isn't empathy. It is the act of an experienced con-artist praying on grief. Those people must have volunteered or agreed to speak. He's not supporting the 2nd amendment just so he can hold a gun to people's heads and force them to speak at rallies. That changes nothing about what I said, but good just posting. They're the ones who said "If Trump had been president in 2011 my whatever would still be alive."
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On September 01 2016 11:59 Introvert wrote: I mean I have my (many) issues with the speech, Trump's policies, and his trustworthiness, but this thread is some next level stuff.
And the funniest thing of all? Trump said almost nothing about non-criminal illegal aliens already here (I had to stop listening part way through, but from what I'm reading he didn't say anything explicitly). He still isn't primary Trump. He's politician-in-the-wind Trump. And people are still going wild.
basically if you are a non-criminal illegal(lol that makes no sense but w/e) nothing will happen to you for a while, and you have no path for legal status unless you leave and come back.
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