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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 22 2016 02:27 GMT
#87841
Trump's destroyed the Republican Party as we know it and I couldn't be happier. Still think I'm voting for Gary Johnson, though
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 22 2016 02:29 GMT
#87842
I actually had to go look up that Chicago shooting victim stat because it sounded absurdly high. But damn, it's true.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 22 2016 02:29 GMT
#87843
If the Republican party became Trump's version of it after the end of this election... I think that would be a net positive for the US as a whole.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 22 2016 02:30 GMT
#87844
Not a big fan of his teleprompter speech delivery.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 22 2016 02:31 GMT
#87845
I bet Trump would go ham on W. Bush as well if he was an independent
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 22 2016 02:31 GMT
#87846
On July 22 2016 11:29 LegalLord wrote:
If the Republican party became Trump's version of it after the end of this election... I think that would be a net positive for the US as a whole.


You do realize he hijacked the party as a virtual non-Republican right
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2016 02:31 GMT
#87847
Fear everything. Never mind that violence has gone down every year. Be afraid. But don't make new gun laws!
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 22 2016 02:32 GMT
#87848
On July 22 2016 11:31 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 11:29 LegalLord wrote:
If the Republican party became Trump's version of it after the end of this election... I think that would be a net positive for the US as a whole.


You do realize he hijacked the party as a virtual non-Republican right

Absolutely. But he found enough support to push him ahead of the normal Republican candidates so it might happen.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23617 Posts
July 22 2016 02:33 GMT
#87849
On July 22 2016 11:22 Plansix wrote:


Won't matter.

Ivanka's going to be able to go around saying whatever she wants, it doesn't have to be congruent with whatever Trump's saying at all.

While Trump's appeal is limited to party lines mostly, Ivanka is about to demolish Hillary's male numbers. I guarantee you, by tomorrow morning every male chauvinist jerk is going to have the video of Ivanka on their feed knowing what she said is the antithesis to much of what Trump and they purport to support saying "See Trump's better than Hillary!"

A bunch of low information voters are going to believe that so long as she keeps selling it. She knows how invaluable she is to Trump winning, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out she's been leveraging her full campaign support for more power/responsibility instead of Jr.

I don't know how the cognitive dissonance won't cause mass cranial ruptures across the country but man, Hillary is going to have absolutely nothing to run on other than "I'm not Trump", to which his response will be "You sure the hell aren't, you're more of the same status quo political bullshit we all hate" and that's going to kill.

So far this speech gives me the impression he just might be able to keep the facade of capability up (for the low information/loyal supporters) long enough to really f'in do this.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 22 2016 02:34 GMT
#87850
Ohhhh shit he's going after Hillary's actual FP record and not just Benghazi.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 22 2016 02:35 GMT
#87851
On July 22 2016 11:34 LegalLord wrote:
Ohhhh shit he's going after Hillary's actual FP record and not just Benghazi.

Of course, everyone around here is well-educated on these points by now given my diligent work.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 22 2016 02:36 GMT
#87852
On July 22 2016 11:33 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 11:22 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/jesselehrich/status/756310661592915969


Won't matter.

Ivanka's going to be able to go around saying whatever she wants, it doesn't have to be congruent with whatever Trump's saying at all.

While Trump's appeal is limited to party lines mostly, Ivanka is about to demolish Hillary's male numbers. I guarantee you, by tomorrow morning every male chauvinist jerk is going to have the video of Ivanka on their feed knowing what she said is the antithesis to much of what Trump and they purport to support saying "See Trump's better than Hillary!"

A bunch of low information voters are going to believe that so long as she keeps selling it. She knows how invaluable she is to Trump winning, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out she's been leveraging her full campaign support for more power/responsibility instead of Jr.

I don't know how the cognitive dissonance won't cause mass cranial ruptures across the country but man, Hillary is going to have absolutely nothing to run on other than "I'm not Trump", to which his response will be "You sure the hell aren't, you're more of the same status quo political bullshit we all hate" and that's going to kill.

So far this speech gives me the impression he just might be able to keep the facade of capability up (for the low information/loyal supporters) long enough to really f'in do this.


Not sure I would place so much stock in Ivanka. Trump is still a nut with some bad poll numbers.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 22 2016 02:37 GMT
#87853
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 02:39:22
July 22 2016 02:38 GMT
#87854
Oh my god. I think Donald Trump is actually going to win.

If it happens, democrats only have themselves to blame. It is quite embarrassing that they would field a candidate as weak as clinton when so much is at stake. Putting politics before service. It's a disgrace.

biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
July 22 2016 02:39 GMT
#87855
On July 22 2016 11:37 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/756314822866640897


why not just say that yourself instead of posting a random person's twitter
Question.?
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 22 2016 02:39 GMT
#87856
Rebuilding infrastructure is without a doubt one of the top 3 things America needs right now, whoever wins must fix it
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 22 2016 02:39 GMT
#87857
On July 22 2016 11:36 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 11:33 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 22 2016 11:22 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/jesselehrich/status/756310661592915969


Won't matter.

Ivanka's going to be able to go around saying whatever she wants, it doesn't have to be congruent with whatever Trump's saying at all.

While Trump's appeal is limited to party lines mostly, Ivanka is about to demolish Hillary's male numbers. I guarantee you, by tomorrow morning every male chauvinist jerk is going to have the video of Ivanka on their feed knowing what she said is the antithesis to much of what Trump and they purport to support saying "See Trump's better than Hillary!"

A bunch of low information voters are going to believe that so long as she keeps selling it. She knows how invaluable she is to Trump winning, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out she's been leveraging her full campaign support for more power/responsibility instead of Jr.

I don't know how the cognitive dissonance won't cause mass cranial ruptures across the country but man, Hillary is going to have absolutely nothing to run on other than "I'm not Trump", to which his response will be "You sure the hell aren't, you're more of the same status quo political bullshit we all hate" and that's going to kill.

So far this speech gives me the impression he just might be able to keep the facade of capability up (for the low information/loyal supporters) long enough to really f'in do this.


Not sure I would place so much stock in Ivanka. Trump is still a nut with some bad poll numbers.

Hes been going up for 2 months (since the judge comments) and the odds have shifted towards Trump noticeably since the last round of betting in this thread.
© Current year.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 02:40:59
July 22 2016 02:40 GMT
#87858
On July 22 2016 11:38 Vin{MBL} wrote:
Oh my god. I think Donald Trump is actually going to win.

If it happens, democrats only have themselves to blame. It is quite embarrassing that they would field a candidate as weak is clinton when so much is at stake. Putting politics before service. It's a disgrace.


I could see by DNC 2012 that Obama was the best that the Democrats have and will have in the near future.

Problem is I hate the Republican party, and it is pretty antithetical to everything that Trump is talking about right now.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9168 Posts
July 22 2016 02:40 GMT
#87859
On July 22 2016 11:39 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 11:37 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/756314822866640897


why not just say that yourself instead of posting a random person's twitter

Because that would be plagiarism, haven't you seen the news this week
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 22 2016 02:41 GMT
#87860
On July 22 2016 11:38 Vin{MBL} wrote:
Oh my god. I think Donald Trump is actually going to win.

If it happens, democrats only have themselves to blame. It is quite embarrassing that they would field a candidate as weak as clinton when so much is at stake. Putting politics before service. It's a disgrace.


Exactly, literally anybody else would beat Trump, but the Democrats are too stupid to do the things in their best interests
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
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