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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9137 Posts
July 15 2016 17:29 GMT
#85721
The ACLU’s Constitutional Analysis of the Public
Statements and Policy Proposals of Donald Trump (PDF)
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
July 15 2016 17:37 GMT
#85722
On July 16 2016 02:24 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 01:38 Seuss wrote:
http://venturebeat.com/2016/07/15/twitch-plays-politics-game-streaming-service-to-broadcast-gop-and-dem-conventions/

Twitch chat is going to be glorious.

It surely will be a great fun, but I'm just afraid, that if the current trend set by trump and likes continues, soon the twitch chat will be how politcal conversation looks like and the candidates will cater to that.


"Mr Trump, you sa-"

"I prefer to go by Base Trump, thank you very much"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 15 2016 17:43 GMT
#85723
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 15 2016 17:47 GMT
#85724
On July 16 2016 02:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/DanaBashCNN/status/754007849022480384


Disgusting VP pick. Way to erode your support among moderates and independents by picking an anti-gay social conservative. That did so well in 2008 and 2012.

He should have chose General Flynn.

He's probably already regretting his decision even more now than he was last night
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 17:51:37
July 15 2016 17:49 GMT
#85725
On July 16 2016 02:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 02:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/DanaBashCNN/status/754007849022480384


Disgusting VP pick. Way to erode your support among moderates and independents by picking an anti-gay social conservative. That did so well in 2008 and 2012.

He should have chose General Flynn.

He's probably already regretting his decision even more now than he was last night


Am I the only one wondering if the madman would change his mind?

Edit: I think the gay thing needs to be put to bed. There are a lot of people who would hesitate to vote for someone who, more than a year after the supreme court gave it the thumbs up, would still try to overturn it. That ship sailed. It really, really sailed. Dare I say, it makes the ticket look out of touch. Don't like 67% or some similar amount of young republicans support gay marriage? This is gonna be a real bummer for them.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 15 2016 17:53 GMT
#85726


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 17:55:18
July 15 2016 17:54 GMT
#85727
On July 16 2016 02:49 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 02:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 16 2016 02:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/DanaBashCNN/status/754007849022480384


Disgusting VP pick. Way to erode your support among moderates and independents by picking an anti-gay social conservative. That did so well in 2008 and 2012.

He should have chose General Flynn.

He's probably already regretting his decision even more now than he was last night


Am I the only one wondering if the madman would change his mind?


No.

I hope he does. Not just because I think it would be hilarious (and wouldn't really feel bad for Pence getting shafted at all) but because Flynn is just objectively a better pick both for winning the election and for meeting the criteria of being a quality person of integrity that ought to be a metric used for determining the VP.

At the very least, he isn't dictated by backwards social policies like Pence is.

Trump needs to change his mind on this.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21961 Posts
July 15 2016 17:56 GMT
#85728
On July 16 2016 02:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/DanaBashCNN/status/754007849022480384

This combined with Trump tweeting his VP after cancelling the announcement today just adds to my comment from yesterday that it felt like he was getting cold feet.

And yes, the pivot to the center, which was already dead, has now been truly buried.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4864 Posts
July 15 2016 17:59 GMT
#85729
Pence pick has nothing to do with moving right. Pence was favored by some of his kids because he's safe and boring. That's the rationale. And no one is going to stop supporting Trump because of this. They are already voting for Trump, now they are going to offended by Pence? As we've seen in senate polling, people treat Trump as Trump, and don't really associate him with others or the party as much as was feared.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 18:01:58
July 15 2016 18:00 GMT
#85730
http://trumppence.gop

trump got cucked
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 15 2016 18:02 GMT
#85731
The Pence pick might actually backfire in terms of alienating older white women who tend to vote conservative. Have person as VP telling them that their children, or possible grandchildren that might be gay that they aren't real citizens is really a great way to turn off that voting bloc.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 15 2016 18:04 GMT
#85732
Also the 28 pages of 9/11 intel has been released:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 15 2016 18:12 GMT
#85733
On July 16 2016 02:29 Dan HH wrote:
The ACLU’s Constitutional Analysis of the Public
Statements and Policy Proposals of Donald Trump (PDF)


Don't be silly, it's just the liberal ACLU that thinks banning a religion, creating a database based on religion, and explicitly profiling based on religion are unconstitutional.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 15 2016 18:14 GMT
#85734
On July 16 2016 02:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 02:49 Mohdoo wrote:
On July 16 2016 02:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On July 16 2016 02:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/DanaBashCNN/status/754007849022480384


Disgusting VP pick. Way to erode your support among moderates and independents by picking an anti-gay social conservative. That did so well in 2008 and 2012.

He should have chose General Flynn.

He's probably already regretting his decision even more now than he was last night


Am I the only one wondering if the madman would change his mind?


Flynn is just objectively a better pick both for winning the election and for meeting the criteria of being a quality person of integrity


I am surprised at your strong feelings towards Pence's integrity considering your support of Donald Trump for Commander in Chief.

Also I like when people say "objectively" when stating opinions they feel particularly strongly about.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 15 2016 18:14 GMT
#85735
On July 16 2016 03:12 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 02:29 Dan HH wrote:
The ACLU’s Constitutional Analysis of the Public
Statements and Policy Proposals of Donald Trump (PDF)


Don't be silly, it's just the liberal ACLU that thinks banning a religion, creating a database based on religion, and explicitly profiling based on religion are unconstitutional.


You should go back to the enoughtrumpspam subreddit if you just want to shitpost
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 15 2016 18:18 GMT
#85736
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
July 15 2016 18:25 GMT
#85737
Highly disagree with the Pence pick, this election is going to come down to bernie supporters and independents. This type of social conservatism will really put off that voting block even more than their resentment towards HRC. Should have just gone with his gut and gone with Christie or one of the generals. His campaign has always been about following his gut and doing what he feels is right, now some idiot aides are applying 'strategy' to a campaign that has been anything but that. Sad to see, it might have been his own family that were too stupid to see how this is a bad move.
Question.?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 15 2016 18:25 GMT
#85738
On July 16 2016 03:12 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 02:29 Dan HH wrote:
The ACLU’s Constitutional Analysis of the Public
Statements and Policy Proposals of Donald Trump (PDF)


Don't be silly, it's just the liberal ACLU that thinks banning a religion, creating a database based on religion, and explicitly profiling based on religion are unconstitutional.

I am shocked, shocked that those proposed plans might violate the Constitution. Shocked that the goverment can't register you based on what church you attend.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-15 18:26:35
July 15 2016 18:26 GMT
#85739
looks like the pence pick is just getting trump a lot of bad press about how disorganized his campaign is... its just a news cycle though, it'll be longer before we see the actual impact on the race

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
July 15 2016 18:39 GMT
#85740
Quick reminder that the supposed calculated businessman who wants the nuclear launch codes couldn't even confidently pick a VP with several months to vet.

Also, good luck winning an election with only white males with Pence. I guess Trump can take comfort in that he'll probably beat Mondale's numbers so he won't be the biggest failure of a presidential candidate in US history.
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