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On July 15 2016 02:11 amazingxkcd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 01:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:WASHINGTON ― Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has settled on Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R) as his vice presidential running mate, according to multiple reports including the governor’s local paper.
A formal announcement is expected to come on Friday in New York City. Though several outlets reported that it was a done deal, the New York Times reported that there were only strong signals that Pence was being tapped for the gig, as of Thursday afternoon. However, Trump’s communication office denied that a decision has been made.
Pence, 57, brings nearly four years of executive experience to the ticket and can help shore up Trump’s credibility among establishment holdouts within the GOP. The governor also seems to have met Trump’s stated preference of a running mate who can ably navigate the corridors of power in Washington ― Pence previously served 12 years in the House of Representatives, including two years as chairman of the House Republican Conference. Source ill hold my breath on this. could be bait and switch, could be trump figuring out who leaked this, could actually be the truth. AFAIK, only trump and his kids know the real choice come tomorrow
Nah, he's the guy. There's a ton of details coming out regarding tomorrow's rollout.
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Things might finally be looking up for Indiana!
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On July 15 2016 02:16 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 02:11 amazingxkcd wrote:On July 15 2016 01:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:WASHINGTON ― Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has settled on Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R) as his vice presidential running mate, according to multiple reports including the governor’s local paper.
A formal announcement is expected to come on Friday in New York City. Though several outlets reported that it was a done deal, the New York Times reported that there were only strong signals that Pence was being tapped for the gig, as of Thursday afternoon. However, Trump’s communication office denied that a decision has been made.
Pence, 57, brings nearly four years of executive experience to the ticket and can help shore up Trump’s credibility among establishment holdouts within the GOP. The governor also seems to have met Trump’s stated preference of a running mate who can ably navigate the corridors of power in Washington ― Pence previously served 12 years in the House of Representatives, including two years as chairman of the House Republican Conference. Source ill hold my breath on this. could be bait and switch, could be trump figuring out who leaked this, could actually be the truth. AFAIK, only trump and his kids know the real choice come tomorrow Nah, he's the guy. There's a ton of details coming out regarding tomorrow's rollout.
we'll see.
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On July 15 2016 02:21 farvacola wrote:
Things might finally be looking up for Indiana!
He is very much in that southern, social conservative mold we have come to expect from the GOP.
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On July 14 2016 18:18 NukeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 23:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 13 2016 13:53 NukeD wrote:On July 13 2016 11:27 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I'm still looking for someone to take me up on the 1 year ban bet on the outcome. You say Hillary or Trump will win? If you read any of my posts and the basic analyses I do for the Electoral College, obviously Hillary. I didn't. I'll take the bet.
Done.
On July 15 2016 00:14 Liquid`Drone wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 12:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 13 2016 11:46 CorsairHero wrote:On July 13 2016 11:27 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I'm still looking for someone to take me up on the 1 year ban bet on the outcome. if you really believe in it so much go bet on it and make some money Payout is too low with current odds for me to take the risk of betting my grad school savings. I don't value posting on LL much at all: i can keep in touch with all the relevant people with skype or discord, and in the low percentile chance Trump does win, I'll need the ban anyways to make plans for dusting off my Canadian citizenship and moving. ban-betting on Hillary vs Trump is a bit of a Pascal's wager imo. If Trump wins then it would take more than 3 months before I wanted to read about anything politics related anyway.
Which is why I made the bet.
I don't value posting on the forums that much anymore to boot so yeah.
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query about best placement for a discussion:
I want to run a poll on a question about minimum wage in the US; but this thread often moves fast, and a lot of people might miss it if I just put it in thread. But it isn't really worth a separate thread; perhaps I should do it in blogs and make a link here? Looking for thoughts on best venue for the discussion.
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Blogs have terribly low traffic these days, not sure where I'd put a poll like that to be frank
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Norway28665 Posts
On July 15 2016 02:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2016 18:18 NukeD wrote:On July 13 2016 23:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 13 2016 13:53 NukeD wrote:On July 13 2016 11:27 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I'm still looking for someone to take me up on the 1 year ban bet on the outcome. You say Hillary or Trump will win? If you read any of my posts and the basic analyses I do for the Electoral College, obviously Hillary. I didn't. I'll take the bet. Done. Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 00:14 Liquid`Drone wrote:On July 13 2016 12:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:On July 13 2016 11:46 CorsairHero wrote:On July 13 2016 11:27 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I'm still looking for someone to take me up on the 1 year ban bet on the outcome. if you really believe in it so much go bet on it and make some money Payout is too low with current odds for me to take the risk of betting my grad school savings. I don't value posting on LL much at all: i can keep in touch with all the relevant people with skype or discord, and in the low percentile chance Trump does win, I'll need the ban anyways to make plans for dusting off my Canadian citizenship and moving. ban-betting on Hillary vs Trump is a bit of a Pascal's wager imo. If Trump wins then it would take more than 3 months before I wanted to read about anything politics related anyway. Which is why I made the bet. I don't value posting on the forums that much anymore to boot so yeah.
I hope you keep it up. Even though I understand that with your background and knowledge the discussion here is bound to operate on a 'lower' level than what you idealize, I personally, and I find it likely that I am not alone, really appreciate your insight and the articles you link. I think it's hard for most of us to really engage with you - but we can still learn. 
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I can't wait to see how people defending BLM shutting down highways react to the ironic headline that is bound to happen if this keeps up -
"Black Lives Matter shut down of highway leads to death of a sick/injured black man stuck in traffic unable to receive medical attention in timely manner"
"I guess he's just collateral damage for the cause, sacrifices must be made for the greater good if we want change" is the typical response I expect to see more of
Some of the more radical responses will probably be "blame white people for making BLM shut down highways in the first place"
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I also Lord Tolkien contributions, which are generally better worded and though out than my own.
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On July 15 2016 01:47 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 01:41 Nyxisto wrote:On July 15 2016 01:29 Plansix wrote:On July 15 2016 01:15 BlueBird. wrote:On July 15 2016 01:11 Plansix wrote:
MLK would never have blocked a highway. None of the old, good civil rights leaders would have done that ever. God forbid someone would have noticed them or something... smh. I know, it’s not like MLK ever blocked an entire bridge and then there was a movie made about it. Or got arrested for protesting. Or organized people to sit-ins at segregated restaurants so no one else could eat there. They just protested politely on the side of the street. "protesting only allowed in homeopathic dosage" I don't really know what people are upset about, compared to the vietnam war and civil rights era today's protesters are a complete joke. If BLM is dangerous what the hell was Mandela? Severely whitewashed.
He really was. In the US he is regarded as a paragon of virtue and someone who everyone cites as such. That's not really a fair description of him.
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On July 15 2016 03:22 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2016 01:47 xDaunt wrote:On July 15 2016 01:41 Nyxisto wrote:On July 15 2016 01:29 Plansix wrote:On July 15 2016 01:15 BlueBird. wrote:On July 15 2016 01:11 Plansix wrote:
MLK would never have blocked a highway. None of the old, good civil rights leaders would have done that ever. God forbid someone would have noticed them or something... smh. I know, it’s not like MLK ever blocked an entire bridge and then there was a movie made about it. Or got arrested for protesting. Or organized people to sit-ins at segregated restaurants so no one else could eat there. They just protested politely on the side of the street. "protesting only allowed in homeopathic dosage" I don't really know what people are upset about, compared to the vietnam war and civil rights era today's protesters are a complete joke. If BLM is dangerous what the hell was Mandela? Severely whitewashed. He really was. In the US he is regarded as a paragon of virtue and someone who everyone cites as such. That's not really a fair description of him.
agree, its important to remember mandela as he really was
![[image loading]](http://1.1.1.5/bmi/liberationschool.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/mandela-sacp.jpg)
a hero
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He was a different man probably before and after his jail time. He showed incredible inspiring amounts of compassion for the white people in south africa and was able to unite the country around the rugby world cup by keeping the apartheid-era national rugby team and name that had been a symbol of white power for its existence.
Watch the 30 for 30; the 16th man its a really good documentary on Mandela and suth Africa.
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One thing that Mandela deserves a ton of credit for is not going to full-Mugabe on South Africa. But he has gotten far better historical treatment than he really deserves.
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Media is already pulling Pence gold:
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"We will create 200 systems to verify who belongs here, but will do nothing to change the applications process for visas or the numbers given out. And heaven help you if this system shows a false positive ever, because we will deport you!"
Anyone find a speech here he talks about the LGBT community yet?
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Its hard to really get worked up for these when you compare them to Hillarys skeletons.
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