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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 14 2016 04:06 GMT
#85561

Technical difficulties?
© Current year.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 04:15:27
July 14 2016 04:11 GMT
#85562
On July 14 2016 13:06 CorsairHero wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5my7EJv42PU
Technical difficulties?


It's awfully convenient timing but

the reporter's tweeting that she was allowed to make the points later so it probably was just technical difficulties

CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
July 14 2016 04:19 GMT
#85563
nice find. if /r/politics could keep a thread with a mod comment instead of deleting all traces that would be nice

Anyways,

© Current year.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5954 Posts
July 14 2016 04:26 GMT
#85564
Interesting that he's not doing it on Thursday like Bill O'Reilly suggested when the news cycle is stronger.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4916 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 06:32:46
July 14 2016 06:32 GMT
#85565
If you want stuff that actually speaks to people, instead of protests and angry slogans, try this. Also works as a good substitute for Obama's constant divisive language.

+ Show Spoiler +









Second one is probably more relevant to this thread.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
July 14 2016 09:18 GMT
#85566
On July 13 2016 23:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 13:53 NukeD wrote:
On July 13 2016 11:27 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I'm still looking for someone to take me up on the 1 year ban bet on the outcome.

You say Hillary or Trump will win?

If you read any of my posts and the basic analyses I do for the Electoral College, obviously Hillary.

I didn't.

I'll take the bet.
sorry for dem one liners
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
July 14 2016 10:00 GMT
#85567
If protests dont inconvenience those in power they aren't protests.

also: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-highways-have-become-the-center-of-civil-rights-protest/
On July 14 2016 12:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
So what I was worried about a few days ago is something that actually ended up happening - and this is why blocking highways is a bad thing

Show nested quote +
Parents with a sick baby were blocked on their way to a hospital in Memphis, TN because Black Lives Matter protesters shut down traffic on a bridge Monday night.


Show nested quote +
The Memphis Black Lives Matter rally shut down the I-40 bridge Sunday night with hundreds of protesters refusing to leave. Traffic could not go across, but paramedic Bobby Harrell with Crittenden EMS was determined to get to a child who was stuck on the bridge with his family.

“We received a call there was a child needing medical attention stuck in traffic up on the bridge and due to the protest going on the bridge the family was not able to get through traffic to get him to Le Bonheur,” Harrell said.

A photo shows parents handing the child off to paramedics on the bridge.

“The sheriff’s department had to escort us up the wrong way of the interstate to the child,” he said.

Harrell said after he had the very sick child in the ambulance, the driver had to go 25 minutes out of the way.

“We had to turn around and come back to West Memphis and cross over at MLK to get over to 55.”


i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23731 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 10:29:45
July 14 2016 10:29 GMT
#85568
On July 14 2016 15:32 Introvert wrote:
If you want stuff that actually speaks to people, instead of protests and angry slogans, try this. Also works as a good substitute for Obama's constant divisive language.

+ Show Spoiler +


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx6rUw7t_O0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmMQimrT8qk




Second one is probably more relevant to this thread.


I couldn't get through the first video which seemed to be straight shuckin' and jivin' but the first part of the second video wasn't bad. Just be aware we've been saying this kind of stuff for decades.

This is brother Malcolm ~50 years ago. It's wayyy past time y'all listen.

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 14 2016 11:30 GMT
#85569
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-recorded-boss-blasting-not-stopping-minorities-article-1.2710345

The NYPD cop who claimed he was successfully suppressing crime in the subways he patrolled, secretly taped his supervisors ripping into him for not stopping enough minority teenagers or writing summonses.

Officer Michael Birch was placed on special monitoring in 2011 by then commanding officer Constantin Tsachas for low activity.

Birch was excoriated by the captain for making only four arrests in a nine-month period, four stop-and-frisks in six months, and nearly half the persons he stopped for jumping turnstile were female.

The cop acknowledged that black and Hispanic teens commit most of the crimes in the subway.

"You described for me who's committing the crimes and you're not targeting those people," Tsachas complained on the tape obtained by The Daily News.

Birch insisted that were no crimes committed in stations while he was working, but that did not satisfy his numbers-hungry boss.

"What are you doing to help me fight crime with two arrests," Tsachas said. "Other kids (younger cops) with less time (on the force) are doing a great job for me. They're taking bad guys off the street. I can't see how you're helping me with two arrests."

"You could be out there and nothing is happening in front of you," he fumed. "Another guy you could've stopped and committed a crime, you can't measure. The pro-active is not there."

NYPD officials have insisted for decades that there is no quota for summonses, arrests, or stop-and-frisk reports. Birch alleged in a lawsuit filed earlier this year in Brooklyn Federal Court that he was punished for not meeting quotas.

A lieutenant present at the sit-down told Birch that "getting one or two (stop and frisk reports) a month … I think is very easy … You have the blinders on."

Tsachas was recently promoted by Police Commissioner Bratton who dismissed any suggestion that the high-ranking cop had done anything improper.

Birch's lawsuit, which was first reported by The News, was dismissed by Federal Judge Brian Cogan because the statute of limitations had passed on many of his claims, but he is appealing the decision. His lawyer did not return a message.


Best of luck to this guy. This is the root problem with some police, they see a day without an arrest as a bad day.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Shingi11
Profile Joined May 2016
290 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 12:09:14
July 14 2016 12:07 GMT
#85570
Poll: Trump has zero black support in Ohio, Pennsylvania

Ohio white voters:
Trump, 43%
Clinton, 33%

Ohio black voters:
Trump, 0%
Clinton, 88%

Trump is going to have to carry like 100% of the white vote at this rate if he keeps these numbers up. I am bised to the left but is trump capturing any group outside of his base. IF anything i have been reading that he is even losing some of his core.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 13:18:01
July 14 2016 13:17 GMT
#85571
One entire night will be bashing Bill Clinton and his sexual scandals while in the White House, reportedly.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 13:25:38
July 14 2016 13:24 GMT
#85572
I favor a federal law mandating that all police shootings must be reported to the fbi (or someone, fbi just seems the obvious choice). Or at least all fatal shootings. I'd say there's enough civil rights concerns that it'd be constitutional under the 14th amendment.
I'm not sure what carrot/sticks to include so that the police actually do it.
Might be hard to get such a law passed of course. But we need better data, and this seems like the most straightforward way to get it.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 13:32:01
July 14 2016 13:30 GMT
#85573
Agreed. And an abstract of the data should be available to the public and further details on request. Nothing that is going to endanger officers or impact a live investigation, but it should be available.

I would also like anonymous reporting for police officers who have issues like the one in the story above. They should be forced to run to the media and risk termination or other forms of retaliation.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4916 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 14:01:12
July 14 2016 13:55 GMT
#85574
On July 14 2016 19:29 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 15:32 Introvert wrote:
If you want stuff that actually speaks to people, instead of protests and angry slogans, try this. Also works as a good substitute for Obama's constant divisive language.

+ Show Spoiler +


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx6rUw7t_O0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmMQimrT8qk




Second one is probably more relevant to this thread.


I couldn't get through the first video which seemed to be straight shuckin' and jivin' but the first part of the second video wasn't bad. Just be aware we've been saying this kind of stuff for decades.

This is brother Malcolm ~50 years ago. It's wayyy past time y'all listen.

https://youtu.be/vxIh_CD7Rv0?t=16s


I'm no fan of his delivery, but that's been true for others more than once these past few months already.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7995 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 14:13:33
July 14 2016 14:11 GMT
#85575
On July 14 2016 15:32 Introvert wrote:
If you want stuff that actually speaks to people, instead of protests and angry slogans, try this. Also works as a good substitute for Obama's constant divisive language.

+ Show Spoiler +


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx6rUw7t_O0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmMQimrT8qk




Second one is probably more relevant to this thread.

Errr. Obama's language is divisive? Oo

How do you qualify Trump's language, just out of curiosity?

After Orlando, Obama was bashed by Republicans for not being divisive enough because it's all about muslims vs non-muslims and they are the enemy. Now he is constantly divisive.

Must be tiring to be POTUS.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28775 Posts
July 14 2016 15:14 GMT
#85576
On July 13 2016 12:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 11:46 CorsairHero wrote:
On July 13 2016 11:27 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I'm still looking for someone to take me up on the 1 year ban bet on the outcome.

if you really believe in it so much go bet on it and make some money

Payout is too low with current odds for me to take the risk of betting my grad school savings.

I don't value posting on LL much at all: i can keep in touch with all the relevant people with skype or discord, and in the low percentile chance Trump does win, I'll need the ban anyways to make plans for dusting off my Canadian citizenship and moving.


ban-betting on Hillary vs Trump is a bit of a Pascal's wager imo. If Trump wins then it would take more than 3 months before I wanted to read about anything politics related anyway.
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Cowboy24
Profile Joined June 2016
94 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-14 16:12:21
July 14 2016 16:06 GMT
#85577
So it looks like Castille probably did have the permit. Family released letter from courthouse:

http://uproxx.com/news/philando-castile-gun-permit/

Still no permit, but I assume the police probably have that (if it was in the wallet) as evidence or what-not. Anyway, if this is true it will be very, very bad. I still think Officer Yanez will probably get off (not enough evidence for any conviction at this point), but the lack of a criminal record and the legal gun will cause a lot of reaction. I expect more riots and violence, and probably more targeting of cops, which will in turn lead to increased stress/pressure on cops, which will continue the cycle.

The new tactic of shutting down highways is an especially disturbing trend. Emergency services and local economies absolutely depend on functioning highways. For now it seems like they're largely getting away with it, but at a certain point mayors and governors will have to step in or risk losing control. As more and more innocent people are inconvenienced or harmed by BLM marches, you'll start to see counter-movements and protests, and those may devolve into clashes. Especially with election season heating up and Trump/Trumpsters so fired up and everyone already on edge.

I'm afraid we might have already reached the event-horizon on this thing.


On July 14 2016 21:07 Shingi11 wrote:
Poll: Trump has zero black support in Ohio, Pennsylvania

Ohio white voters:
Trump, 43%
Clinton, 33%

Ohio black voters:
Trump, 0%
Clinton, 88%
.

This is extremely troubling for the country and the nature of race relations, but it's just a continuation of trends that have been happening for a long time. From Trump's electoral point of view, this isn't all too unexpected or problematic. It could spell disaster for the country at large though, if this keeps up.

xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 14 2016 16:08 GMT
#85578
On July 15 2016 01:06 Cowboy24 wrote:
The new tactic of shutting down highways is an especially disturbing trend. Emergency services and local economies absolutely depend on functioning highways. For now it seems like they're largely getting away with it, but at a certain point mayors and governors will have to step in or risk losing control. As more and more innocent people are inconvenienced or harmed by BLM marches, you'll start to see counter-movements and protests, and those may devolve into clashes. Especially with election season heating up and Trump/Trumpsters so fired up and everyone already on edge.

This is what tear gas and riot gear were made for. BLM has absolutely no business obstructing highways and major roads. They can go do their protests elsewhere.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10862 Posts
July 14 2016 16:08 GMT
#85579
Protests need to be "inconvenient" to non protesters, else you could also have a meeting in your home.

And yes, sadly, this also means that there are risks.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 14 2016 16:11 GMT
#85580
MLK would never have blocked a highway. None of the old, good civil rights leaders would have done that ever.
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