EPTHow do people even say this with a straight face.
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Mohdoo
United States15736 Posts
How do people even say this with a straight face. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 08 2016 01:50 Mohdoo wrote: "I am asking you things I saw on social media" How do people even say this with a straight face. Did a member of congress really say that specific phrase? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
oh also, when did I say black people weren't harassed more often again? make an argument or don't, or shit up the thread by ignoring numbers and calling other people who disagree with you ignorant. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23613 Posts
On July 08 2016 01:50 Mohdoo wrote: "I am asking you things I saw on social media" How do people even say this with a straight face. It's the modern version of "My constituents were asking...". That's how. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23613 Posts
On July 08 2016 01:52 zulu_nation8 wrote: oh also, when did I say black people weren't harassed more often again? make an argument or don't, or shit up the thread by ignoring numbers and calling other people who disagree with you ignorant. You don't think it's an issue because you haven't done the research. Do some research, don't come to the conversation so ignorant or (if you must) opine from an openly ignorant position. Don't whine when someone calls you out for being ignorant but still be so attached to your opinion. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22072 Posts
On July 08 2016 01:51 Plansix wrote: Did a member of congress really say that specific phrase? What is more amazing. that a member of congress used that phrase? or that you think it was unlikely? All the faux hearings we have had from this congress. From Benghazi to PP with graphs that have no text on it have shown us that congress is nothing if not incompetent and witch hunting. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15736 Posts
On July 08 2016 01:51 Plansix wrote: Did a member of congress really say that specific phrase? No, he said that he had posted on social media for people to pose questions for this guy from Kentucky to ask. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On July 08 2016 01:53 GreenHorizons wrote: You don't think it's an issue because you haven't done the research. Do some research, don't come to the conversation so ignorant or (if you must) opine from an openly ignorant position. Don't whine when someone calls you out for being ignorant. Are you confused about whether I'm arguing about police killings or police harassment? Again, it's the former. Your idiocy is beyond belief that I have to repeat this point three times. Without saying anything I can respond to besides some "but black harassment" or "ur ignorant," we can call it a day, was fun. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23613 Posts
On July 08 2016 01:55 zulu_nation8 wrote: Are you confused about whether I'm arguing about police killings or police harassment? Again, it's the former. Your idiocy is beyond belief that I have to repeat this point three times. Without saying anything I can respond to besides some "but black harassment" or "ur ignorant," we can call it a day, was fun. You aren't even grasping the basic parts of my argument either, so I bid you good day sir. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 08 2016 01:53 GreenHorizons wrote: You don't think it's an issue because you haven't done the research. Do some research, don't come to the conversation so ignorant or (if you must) opine from an openly ignorant position. Don't whine when someone calls you out for being ignorant but still be so attached to your opinion. Agreed. Please do not debate people while you also ask them to educate you on the subject at the same time. Especially when you have access to google. | ||
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BallinWitStalin
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On July 08 2016 01:57 Plansix wrote: Agreed. Please do not debate people while you also ask them to educate you on the subject at the same time. Especially when you have access to google. How do you read that as I'm asking him to educate me as opposed to asking him to show me data that he claims to back up his argument while refusing to cite it? Is this along the lines of calling someone wrong without knowing how to comprehend a basic pie chart? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15736 Posts
what. the. fuck. I am utterly baffled. This is such an embarrassment. | ||
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farvacola
United States18846 Posts
On July 08 2016 01:56 amazingxkcd wrote: + Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/WashTimes/status/751092894904246272 A tweet befitting the Washington Times, to be sure. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23613 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 08 2016 02:02 Mohdoo wrote: This committee just said "If you want to hack into an IP address, it will cost you $100 from a hacker" what. the. fuck. I am utterly baffled. This is such an embarrassment. The internet is a series of tubes that can be hacked for the price of an expensive dinner. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
i dont know what do you mean we have no evidence that it was hacked so it could have been hacked? -__- i know this isnt a court case, but this is a mockery of justice | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On July 08 2016 01:59 BallinWitStalin wrote: This would be, as you state, an assumption. Even if that assumption were to hold true (it may or may not, data deficient right now in this conversation), arrests wouldn't be independent of the same issue that we are discussing, which is racism in policing leading to increased deaths. Even if arrests occurred at a proportional rate to shootings, that's still not necessarily a rebuttal of your initial point. For the same behavior, if black people were more likely to be arrested and/or interact with policemen relative to white people, then the end result is the same -> increased police surveillance/interaction leads to disproportionate levels of shooting deaths (for the record I am *sure* someone has looked at this in some kind of a study). There's a huge chain of assumptions here that need validation before something can be said concretely one way or the other. However, at the very least the statistics point to a disturbing trend that warrants further investigation, not a "lol black people don't get shot as much as whites" attitude. The data is not deficient, I was being conservative, blacks are arrested more often than whites, not just more often given their share of the population. I'm not understanding the second point, the data shows the killings are either proportionate or that blacks are less likely to be killed given how often they are arrested. As in, compared to other races. I'm not coming in with that attitude, I genuinely wanted to discuss this but it turned into something else. | ||
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