I keep seeing you make apocalyptic predictions for the left in this thread, yet you keep ignoring my offers to bet on the result of the GE. How come? Could it be that deep down you know Hillary's going to win?

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kwizach
3658 Posts
June 10 2016 01:12 GMT
#80281
On June 10 2016 10:02 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 09:59 KwarK wrote: On June 10 2016 09:58 xDaunt wrote: On June 10 2016 09:55 Mohdoo wrote: On June 10 2016 09:37 xDaunt wrote: On June 10 2016 09:31 oneofthem wrote: rallying the far left has huge costs to the center. having obama warren etc campaigning will hopefully be enough to peel all but the most ardent leftists. maybe bloomy wants to be vp? Hillary's problem is that she doesn't excite the base. She needs to drive democrat turnout, which has been very depressed during the primaries. I don't think that there is much for her to gain in the center. Trump excites the left the same way Hilary excites the right. Trump is going to be attacking Hillary from the left on multiple issues. She needs to shore up that flank. All that's going to do is make the Hillary voters vote more despondantly. They'll still vote against Trump. The left isn't voting for Trump. The voters on the left will stay home. I keep seeing you make apocalyptic predictions for the left in this thread, yet you keep ignoring my offers to bet on the result of the GE. How come? Could it be that deep down you know Hillary's going to win? ![]() | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
June 10 2016 01:14 GMT
#80282
On June 10 2016 10:09 ticklishmusic wrote: xDaunt and a few others in this thread (ad many more across the internet it would seem) simply doesn't believe there is actually a pretty big group of people who actually like Hillary Hey, I'm just looking at the voter turnout numbers for the democrat primaries. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
June 10 2016 01:16 GMT
#80283
On June 10 2016 10:08 Nyxisto wrote: Isn't it the case that democratic voters tend to show up way more frequently at presidential elections than anything else? Is the primary turnout really representative, especially given the fact that the Bernie - Hillary race was largely uneventful? on first Q, I woudln't say way more frequently, but they do show up quite a bit more frequently for presidential elections. The primary turnout is not representative; there's loads of analyses that found that primary turnout is mostly a question of whether there were interesting choices. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
June 10 2016 01:18 GMT
#80284
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
June 10 2016 01:20 GMT
#80285
He's energized a new demographic of republican voters that just didn't vote before. And all the die-hard GOP'ers, as much shit as they give him, will never vote for Clinton over him. And when the debates start he's going to sway the center with his superior persuasive skills. I do think it's pretty funny how both sides seem to believe it will be a landslide for their candidate. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
June 10 2016 01:22 GMT
#80286
On June 10 2016 10:14 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 10:09 ticklishmusic wrote: xDaunt and a few others in this thread (ad many more across the internet it would seem) simply doesn't believe there is actually a pretty big group of people who actually like Hillary Hey, I'm just looking at the voter turnout numbers for the democrat primaries. relative to the other democratic nominating contests against non-incumbents (also excluding Al Gore), it's far from whatever image you're trying to paint. 2016 Clinton: 16m Sanders: 12.2m 2008 Clinton: 17.9m (including Florida, Michigan) Obama: 17.6m 2004 Kerry: 9.9m Edwards: 3.1m 1992: Clinton (Bill): 10.5m Brown: 4.1m Tsongas 3.7m | ||
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
June 10 2016 01:22 GMT
#80287
On June 10 2016 10:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Trump shattered the record for primary votes by over a million he's going to have no problem getting the votes in the general. He's energized a new demographic of republican voters that just didn't vote before. And all the die-hard GOP'ers, as much shit as they give him, will never vote for Clinton over him. And when the debates start he's going to sway the center with his superior persuasive skills. I do think it's pretty funny how both sides seem to believe it will be a landslide for their candidate. quoted for posterity | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
June 10 2016 01:22 GMT
#80288
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
June 10 2016 01:25 GMT
#80289
On June 10 2016 10:22 Plansix wrote: Yeah, because the general election voters were so pumped for the last GOP offerings. Wait, no. Trump doesn't know how to get general election voters and the people who decide elections. Primaries number don't matter. I was one of the people who actually didn't vote in 2012 because I was so uninterested in both Obama and Romney so speaking as a member of that demographic you just described, I can tell you that you are just wrong. | ||
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
June 10 2016 01:25 GMT
#80290
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
June 10 2016 01:26 GMT
#80291
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 10 2016 01:27 GMT
#80292
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
June 10 2016 01:29 GMT
#80293
On June 10 2016 10:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 10:22 Plansix wrote: Yeah, because the general election voters were so pumped for the last GOP offerings. Wait, no. Trump doesn't know how to get general election voters and the people who decide elections. Primaries number don't matter. I was one of the people who actually didn't vote in 2012 because I was so uninterested in both Obama and Romney so speaking as a member of that demographic you just described, I can tell you that you are just wrong. As someone who has been able to vote through in 4 times as many elections, you are not one of the demographics that decides elections. | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
June 10 2016 01:36 GMT
#80294
On June 10 2016 10:14 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 10:09 ticklishmusic wrote: xDaunt and a few others in this thread (ad many more across the internet it would seem) simply doesn't believe there is actually a pretty big group of people who actually like Hillary Hey, I'm just looking at the voter turnout numbers for the democrat primaries. Here, read this: Primary Turnout Means Nothing For The General Election [...] But Democrats shouldn’t worry. Republicans shouldn’t celebrate. As others have pointed out, voter turnout is an indication of the competitiveness of a primary contest, not of what will happen in the general election. The GOP presidential primary is more competitive than the Democratic race. Indeed, history suggests that there is no relationship between primary turnout and the general election outcome. You can see this on the most basic level by looking at raw turnout in years in which both parties had competitive primaries. There have been six of those years in the modern era: 1976, 1980, 1988, 1992, 2000 and 2008. [...] Source | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
June 10 2016 01:37 GMT
#80295
On June 10 2016 10:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Trump shattered the record for primary votes by over a million he's going to have no problem getting the votes in the general. He's energized a new demographic of republican voters that just didn't vote before. And all the die-hard GOP'ers, as much shit as they give him, will never vote for Clinton over him. And when the debates start he's going to sway the center with his superior persuasive skills. I do think it's pretty funny how both sides seem to believe it will be a landslide for their candidate. Well, this is the internet. You're probably going to be hearing a lot more of the unrealistic voters, no? | ||
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oBlade
United States6131 Posts
June 10 2016 01:43 GMT
#80296
On June 10 2016 10:37 The_Templar wrote: My current prediction for the general is that neither Clinton nor Trump gets 270. It seems potentially very close to me. Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 10:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Trump shattered the record for primary votes by over a million he's going to have no problem getting the votes in the general. He's energized a new demographic of republican voters that just didn't vote before. And all the die-hard GOP'ers, as much shit as they give him, will never vote for Clinton over him. And when the debates start he's going to sway the center with his superior persuasive skills. I do think it's pretty funny how both sides seem to believe it will be a landslide for their candidate. Well, this is the internet. You're probably going to be hearing a lot more of the unrealistic voters, no? Do you have a specific third candidate in mind already that you think will be able to win any electoral votes? | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
June 10 2016 01:45 GMT
#80297
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
June 10 2016 01:45 GMT
#80298
this'll get you hype | ||
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
June 10 2016 01:46 GMT
#80299
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
June 10 2016 01:49 GMT
#80300
On June 10 2016 10:45 ticklishmusic wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzLMf6QGONQ this'll get you hype LOL I was like "What the fuck is Warren doing at an American Chemical Society meeting?" | ||
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