On June 10 2016 08:04 ticklishmusic wrote:
Are you really going to parrot Sanders on that?
Are you really going to parrot Sanders on that?
Or polls... There's no debate that this election has two most unpopular people as nominees.
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
June 09 2016 23:29 GMT
#80261
On June 10 2016 08:04 ticklishmusic wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 08:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: On June 10 2016 08:02 ticklishmusic wrote: On June 10 2016 07:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Everyone keeps forgetting the other major player in the camp that will decide her VP pick. Her ego. The last thing she would need is a VP that is more popular than her which is why I won't hold my breath for a Sanders or Warren pick. The "more popular" candidate is 4m votes behind Check the opinion polls, Are you really going to parrot Sanders on that? Or polls... There's no debate that this election has two most unpopular people as nominees. | ||
oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 09 2016 23:56 GMT
#80262
On June 10 2016 08:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote Her "with a cloth" when asked about deleted emails, her demanding of her husband not to focus on Kosovo genocide as her healthcare plan was more important. putting domestic healthcare reform, with a public option, ahead of neocon foreign policy adventurism is a bad thing? | ||
oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 09 2016 23:59 GMT
#80263
On June 10 2016 08:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 08:04 ticklishmusic wrote: On June 10 2016 08:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: On June 10 2016 08:02 ticklishmusic wrote: On June 10 2016 07:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Everyone keeps forgetting the other major player in the camp that will decide her VP pick. Her ego. The last thing she would need is a VP that is more popular than her which is why I won't hold my breath for a Sanders or Warren pick. The "more popular" candidate is 4m votes behind Check the opinion polls, Are you really going to parrot Sanders on that? Or polls... There's no debate that this election has two most unpopular people as nominees. she would be smashing trump if not for sanders people not supporting her based on lurid nonsense | ||
TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
June 10 2016 00:10 GMT
#80264
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21687 Posts
June 10 2016 00:14 GMT
#80265
On June 10 2016 09:10 TheFish7 wrote: I'll bet they will both pick centrist VPs to try and lure the white independent vote I can't think of any VP pick that could undo the damage that Trump has done to himself in the center. | ||
xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
June 10 2016 00:14 GMT
#80266
On June 10 2016 09:10 TheFish7 wrote: I'll bet they will both pick centrist VPs to try and lure the white independent vote Trump already has the honky vote locked up. His VP pick won't matter on that point. I doubt Hillary's will, either. | ||
Gorsameth
Netherlands21687 Posts
June 10 2016 00:16 GMT
#80267
On June 10 2016 09:14 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 09:10 TheFish7 wrote: I'll bet they will both pick centrist VPs to try and lure the white independent vote Trump already has the honky vote locked up. His VP pick won't matter on that point. I doubt Hillary's will, either. Hillary has a small chance to counter her 'crooked' image (hence my easier comment about needing a charismatic VP) tho I don't know if the Democrats even have such a possibility lined up. | ||
xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
June 10 2016 00:19 GMT
#80268
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 10 2016 00:31 GMT
#80269
maybe bloomy wants to be vp? | ||
xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
June 10 2016 00:37 GMT
#80270
On June 10 2016 09:31 oneofthem wrote: rallying the far left has huge costs to the center. having obama warren etc campaigning will hopefully be enough to peel all but the most ardent leftists. maybe bloomy wants to be vp? Hillary's problem is that she doesn't excite the base. She needs to drive democrat turnout, which has been very depressed during the primaries. I don't think that there is much for her to gain in the center. | ||
Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
June 10 2016 00:55 GMT
#80271
On June 10 2016 09:37 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 09:31 oneofthem wrote: rallying the far left has huge costs to the center. having obama warren etc campaigning will hopefully be enough to peel all but the most ardent leftists. maybe bloomy wants to be vp? Hillary's problem is that she doesn't excite the base. She needs to drive democrat turnout, which has been very depressed during the primaries. I don't think that there is much for her to gain in the center. Trump excites the left the same way Hilary excites the right. | ||
xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
June 10 2016 00:58 GMT
#80272
On June 10 2016 09:55 Mohdoo wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 09:37 xDaunt wrote: On June 10 2016 09:31 oneofthem wrote: rallying the far left has huge costs to the center. having obama warren etc campaigning will hopefully be enough to peel all but the most ardent leftists. maybe bloomy wants to be vp? Hillary's problem is that she doesn't excite the base. She needs to drive democrat turnout, which has been very depressed during the primaries. I don't think that there is much for her to gain in the center. Trump excites the left the same way Hilary excites the right. Trump is going to be attacking Hillary from the left on multiple issues. She needs to shore up that flank. | ||
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KwarK
United States42692 Posts
June 10 2016 00:59 GMT
#80273
On June 10 2016 09:58 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 09:55 Mohdoo wrote: On June 10 2016 09:37 xDaunt wrote: On June 10 2016 09:31 oneofthem wrote: rallying the far left has huge costs to the center. having obama warren etc campaigning will hopefully be enough to peel all but the most ardent leftists. maybe bloomy wants to be vp? Hillary's problem is that she doesn't excite the base. She needs to drive democrat turnout, which has been very depressed during the primaries. I don't think that there is much for her to gain in the center. Trump excites the left the same way Hilary excites the right. Trump is going to be attacking Hillary from the left on multiple issues. She needs to shore up that flank. All that's going to do is make the Hillary voters vote more despondantly. They'll still vote against Trump. The left isn't voting for Trump. | ||
oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 10 2016 01:00 GMT
#80274
On June 10 2016 09:37 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 09:31 oneofthem wrote: rallying the far left has huge costs to the center. having obama warren etc campaigning will hopefully be enough to peel all but the most ardent leftists. maybe bloomy wants to be vp? Hillary's problem is that she doesn't excite the base. She needs to drive democrat turnout, which has been very depressed during the primaries. I don't think that there is much for her to gain in the center. significant amount of white collar professional suburban republicans vote for the gop brand. trump basically creates a historic opportunity to get this group and damage the gop. basically try to make gop unviable as a national party. bloomberg would absolutely destroy trumpkins in debates and the like. | ||
xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
June 10 2016 01:02 GMT
#80275
On June 10 2016 09:59 KwarK wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 09:58 xDaunt wrote: On June 10 2016 09:55 Mohdoo wrote: On June 10 2016 09:37 xDaunt wrote: On June 10 2016 09:31 oneofthem wrote: rallying the far left has huge costs to the center. having obama warren etc campaigning will hopefully be enough to peel all but the most ardent leftists. maybe bloomy wants to be vp? Hillary's problem is that she doesn't excite the base. She needs to drive democrat turnout, which has been very depressed during the primaries. I don't think that there is much for her to gain in the center. Trump excites the left the same way Hilary excites the right. Trump is going to be attacking Hillary from the left on multiple issues. She needs to shore up that flank. All that's going to do is make the Hillary voters vote more despondantly. They'll still vote against Trump. The left isn't voting for Trump. The voters on the left will stay home. | ||
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KwarK
United States42692 Posts
June 10 2016 01:05 GMT
#80276
On June 10 2016 10:02 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 09:59 KwarK wrote: On June 10 2016 09:58 xDaunt wrote: On June 10 2016 09:55 Mohdoo wrote: On June 10 2016 09:37 xDaunt wrote: On June 10 2016 09:31 oneofthem wrote: rallying the far left has huge costs to the center. having obama warren etc campaigning will hopefully be enough to peel all but the most ardent leftists. maybe bloomy wants to be vp? Hillary's problem is that she doesn't excite the base. She needs to drive democrat turnout, which has been very depressed during the primaries. I don't think that there is much for her to gain in the center. Trump excites the left the same way Hilary excites the right. Trump is going to be attacking Hillary from the left on multiple issues. She needs to shore up that flank. All that's going to do is make the Hillary voters vote more despondantly. They'll still vote against Trump. The left isn't voting for Trump. The voters on the left will stay home. While this is anecdotal I don't know anyone socially who plans to not vote against Trump. My demographic isn't universal of course but he is an extremely unpopular man. | ||
Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
June 10 2016 01:08 GMT
#80277
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
June 10 2016 01:08 GMT
#80278
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
June 10 2016 01:09 GMT
#80279
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
June 10 2016 01:09 GMT
#80280
On June 10 2016 10:02 xDaunt wrote: Show nested quote + On June 10 2016 09:59 KwarK wrote: On June 10 2016 09:58 xDaunt wrote: On June 10 2016 09:55 Mohdoo wrote: On June 10 2016 09:37 xDaunt wrote: On June 10 2016 09:31 oneofthem wrote: rallying the far left has huge costs to the center. having obama warren etc campaigning will hopefully be enough to peel all but the most ardent leftists. maybe bloomy wants to be vp? Hillary's problem is that she doesn't excite the base. She needs to drive democrat turnout, which has been very depressed during the primaries. I don't think that there is much for her to gain in the center. Trump excites the left the same way Hilary excites the right. Trump is going to be attacking Hillary from the left on multiple issues. She needs to shore up that flank. All that's going to do is make the Hillary voters vote more despondantly. They'll still vote against Trump. The left isn't voting for Trump. The voters on the left will stay home. I have yet to meet a Democrat who sees trump as anything short of the apocalypse | ||
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