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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21668 Posts
May 03 2016 23:30 GMT
#74421
On May 04 2016 08:22 pmh wrote:
Trump made it,there is no denying now.
Who would have seen this coming months ago "only idiots vote for trump" was a line you could read on several occasions.
For me the turning point when was he stumped the pope. (the pope making remark about not building walls and trumps campaign twittering a picture of the Vatican surrounded by walls) After that he was untouchable I feel.

Outsider trump against establishment Hillary,it will be epic this November.
Think trump can win this if he plays it smart,but there is potential to screw up.

I will still say "only idiots vote for trump". It just seems there are more idiots then I expected.

You can look at bits and pieces of his idea's and proposals and agree with them but your voting to put the entire man into office, not the bits you like.
If you look at everything Trump has said and done and think "I think this is the best candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America" then I'm sorry but...
Your an idiot.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 03 2016 23:31 GMT
#74422
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
May 03 2016 23:36 GMT
#74423
Well the Democrat side of things is certainly a lot more competitive.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
May 03 2016 23:36 GMT
#74424
Good lord it's close on the Democratic side. 3 votes separating them right now.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 23:39:55
May 03 2016 23:38 GMT
#74425
On May 04 2016 08:30 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 08:22 pmh wrote:
Trump made it,there is no denying now.
Who would have seen this coming months ago "only idiots vote for trump" was a line you could read on several occasions.
For me the turning point when was he stumped the pope. (the pope making remark about not building walls and trumps campaign twittering a picture of the Vatican surrounded by walls) After that he was untouchable I feel.

Outsider trump against establishment Hillary,it will be epic this November.
Think trump can win this if he plays it smart,but there is potential to screw up.

I will still say "only idiots vote for trump". It just seems there are more idiots then I expected.

You can look at bits and pieces of his idea's and proposals and agree with them but your voting to put the entire man into office, not the bits you like.
If you look at everything Trump has said and done and think "I think this is the best candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America" then I'm sorry but...
Your an idiot.


*You're

Yes, half of the US populations are idiots. When I was young, my father once told me that when I think that I'm right, and I think that everyone is wrong, it might be a good time to look around because chances that I'm wrong.

Anyway, calling 50%~ of the population that support Trump as idiots might be one of those "I shouldn't live on this planet anymore moments". I think that Trump is exactly what the US needs in its current situation.

edit: On the other side of things, why is the Democratic election even a topic of debate anymore - that election is as good as done.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 03 2016 23:39 GMT
#74426
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23221 Posts
May 03 2016 23:41 GMT
#74427
On May 04 2016 08:38 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 08:30 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:22 pmh wrote:
Trump made it,there is no denying now.
Who would have seen this coming months ago "only idiots vote for trump" was a line you could read on several occasions.
For me the turning point when was he stumped the pope. (the pope making remark about not building walls and trumps campaign twittering a picture of the Vatican surrounded by walls) After that he was untouchable I feel.

Outsider trump against establishment Hillary,it will be epic this November.
Think trump can win this if he plays it smart,but there is potential to screw up.

I will still say "only idiots vote for trump". It just seems there are more idiots then I expected.

You can look at bits and pieces of his idea's and proposals and agree with them but your voting to put the entire man into office, not the bits you like.
If you look at everything Trump has said and done and think "I think this is the best candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America" then I'm sorry but...
Your an idiot.


*You're

Yes, half of the US populations are idiots. When I was young, my father once told me that when I think that I'm right, and I think that everyone is wrong, it might be a good time to look around because chances that I'm wrong.

Anyway, calling 50%~ of the population that support Trump as idiots might be one of those "I shouldn't live on this planet anymore moments". I think that Trump is exactly what the US needs in its current situation.

edit: On the other side of things, why is the Democratic election even a topic of debate anymore - that election is as good as done.


Because the assumed winner is looking like they may keep losing between now and the convention?

Hardly reinforces the idea that people are happy with the idea of nominating Hillary.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 03 2016 23:42 GMT
#74428
Telling. Pressing that the GOP has to reform in order to stay relevant.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-03 23:50:18
May 03 2016 23:46 GMT
#74429
On May 04 2016 08:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 08:38 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:30 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:22 pmh wrote:
Trump made it,there is no denying now.
Who would have seen this coming months ago "only idiots vote for trump" was a line you could read on several occasions.
For me the turning point when was he stumped the pope. (the pope making remark about not building walls and trumps campaign twittering a picture of the Vatican surrounded by walls) After that he was untouchable I feel.

Outsider trump against establishment Hillary,it will be epic this November.
Think trump can win this if he plays it smart,but there is potential to screw up.

I will still say "only idiots vote for trump". It just seems there are more idiots then I expected.

You can look at bits and pieces of his idea's and proposals and agree with them but your voting to put the entire man into office, not the bits you like.
If you look at everything Trump has said and done and think "I think this is the best candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America" then I'm sorry but...
Your an idiot.


*You're

Yes, half of the US populations are idiots. When I was young, my father once told me that when I think that I'm right, and I think that everyone is wrong, it might be a good time to look around because chances that I'm wrong.

Anyway, calling 50%~ of the population that support Trump as idiots might be one of those "I shouldn't live on this planet anymore moments". I think that Trump is exactly what the US needs in its current situation.

edit: On the other side of things, why is the Democratic election even a topic of debate anymore - that election is as good as done.


Because the assumed winner is looking like they may keep losing between now and the convention?

Hardly reinforces the idea that people are happy with the idea of nominating Hillary.


Like I've said before, Hillary could disappear from the face of the planet for 3 months and still win the nomination. Even if they split the super-delegates equally (which they wont), Bernie would need to win every state with a 65% vote (see 30 points in every state), which is literally impossible unless she suddenly dies. And it's extremely wishful thinking that super delegates will side with Bernie, I'd be shocked if he got more than 200 super delegates even if he had a majority of pledged delegates, simply because Bernie is supported by low information voters and his voters think differently than the White House.

Just look at the polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/dem_pres_primary/

You're wasting your time if you're following the democratic primaries at this point unless you're trying to send the Bernie message to others for future elections.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 03 2016 23:49 GMT
#74430
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 03 2016 23:52 GMT
#74431
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
May 03 2016 23:52 GMT
#74432
Looks like Clinton is on track to land the 39 delegates she needs.

On May 04 2016 08:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 08:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:38 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:30 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:22 pmh wrote:
Trump made it,there is no denying now.
Who would have seen this coming months ago "only idiots vote for trump" was a line you could read on several occasions.
For me the turning point when was he stumped the pope. (the pope making remark about not building walls and trumps campaign twittering a picture of the Vatican surrounded by walls) After that he was untouchable I feel.

Outsider trump against establishment Hillary,it will be epic this November.
Think trump can win this if he plays it smart,but there is potential to screw up.

I will still say "only idiots vote for trump". It just seems there are more idiots then I expected.

You can look at bits and pieces of his idea's and proposals and agree with them but your voting to put the entire man into office, not the bits you like.
If you look at everything Trump has said and done and think "I think this is the best candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America" then I'm sorry but...
Your an idiot.


*You're

Yes, half of the US populations are idiots. When I was young, my father once told me that when I think that I'm right, and I think that everyone is wrong, it might be a good time to look around because chances that I'm wrong.

Anyway, calling 50%~ of the population that support Trump as idiots might be one of those "I shouldn't live on this planet anymore moments". I think that Trump is exactly what the US needs in its current situation.

edit: On the other side of things, why is the Democratic election even a topic of debate anymore - that election is as good as done.


Because the assumed winner is looking like they may keep losing between now and the convention?

Hardly reinforces the idea that people are happy with the idea of nominating Hillary.


Like I've said before, Hillary could disappear from the face of the planet for 3 months and still win the nomination. Even if they split the super-delegates equally (which they wont), Bernie would need to win every state with a 65% vote (see 30 points in every state), which is literally impossible unless she suddenly dies. And it's extremely wishful thinking that super delegates will side with Bernie, I'd be shocked if he got more than 200 super delegates even if he had a majority of pledged delegates, simply because Bernie is supported by low information voters and his voters think differently than the White House.

Just look at the polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/dem_pres_primary/

You're wasting your time if you're following the democratic primaries at this point unless you're trying to send the Bernie message to others for future elections.


Wasting your breath. He's still convinced superdelegates will go against the popular vote and delegate count.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 04 2016 00:05 GMT
#74433
Breaking: Navy SEAL killed in Iraq identified as Charlie Keating IV, grandson of late financier implicated in scandal.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mercy13
Profile Joined January 2011
United States718 Posts
May 04 2016 00:07 GMT
#74434
On May 04 2016 08:38 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 08:30 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:22 pmh wrote:
Drumpf made it,there is no denying now.
Who would have seen this coming months ago "only idiots vote for trump" was a line you could read on several occasions.
For me the turning point when was he stumped the pope. (the pope making remark about not building walls and trumps campaign twittering a picture of the Vatican surrounded by walls) After that he was untouchable I feel.

Outsider trump against establishment Hillary,it will be epic this November.
Think trump can win this if he plays it smart,but there is potential to screw up.

I will still say "only idiots vote for trump". It just seems there are more idiots then I expected.

You can look at bits and pieces of his idea's and proposals and agree with them but your voting to put the entire man into office, not the bits you like.
If you look at everything Drumpf has said and done and think "I think this is the best candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America" then I'm sorry but...
Your an idiot.


*You're

Yes, half of the US populations are idiots. When I was young, my father once told me that when I think that I'm right, and I think that everyone is wrong, it might be a good time to look around because chances that I'm wrong.

Anyway, calling 50%~ of the population that support Drumpf as idiots might be one of those "I shouldn't live on this planet anymore moments". I think that Drumpf is exactly what the US needs in its current situation.

edit: On the other side of things, why is the Democratic election even a topic of debate anymore - that election is as good as done.


Where are you getting the number that ~50% of people support Trump?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
May 04 2016 00:09 GMT
#74435
On May 04 2016 09:07 Mercy13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 08:38 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:30 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:22 pmh wrote:
Drumpf made it,there is no denying now.
Who would have seen this coming months ago "only idiots vote for trump" was a line you could read on several occasions.
For me the turning point when was he stumped the pope. (the pope making remark about not building walls and trumps campaign twittering a picture of the Vatican surrounded by walls) After that he was untouchable I feel.

Outsider trump against establishment Hillary,it will be epic this November.
Think trump can win this if he plays it smart,but there is potential to screw up.

I will still say "only idiots vote for trump". It just seems there are more idiots then I expected.

You can look at bits and pieces of his idea's and proposals and agree with them but your voting to put the entire man into office, not the bits you like.
If you look at everything Drumpf has said and done and think "I think this is the best candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America" then I'm sorry but...
Your an idiot.


*You're

Yes, half of the US populations are idiots. When I was young, my father once told me that when I think that I'm right, and I think that everyone is wrong, it might be a good time to look around because chances that I'm wrong.

Anyway, calling 50%~ of the population that support Drumpf as idiots might be one of those "I shouldn't live on this planet anymore moments". I think that Drumpf is exactly what the US needs in its current situation.

edit: On the other side of things, why is the Democratic election even a topic of debate anymore - that election is as good as done.


Where are you getting the number that ~50% of people support Trump?


Don't polls show Trump up over Clinton a bit?
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4748 Posts
May 04 2016 00:10 GMT
#74436
So when does the media and Hillary begin dumping the freight cars of oppo research on Trump? Do they still wait till June?
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 04 2016 00:16 GMT
#74437
2 minute notice. Cruz to speak.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mercy13
Profile Joined January 2011
United States718 Posts
May 04 2016 00:16 GMT
#74438
On May 04 2016 09:09 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 09:07 Mercy13 wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:38 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:30 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:22 pmh wrote:
Drumpf made it,there is no denying now.
Who would have seen this coming months ago "only idiots vote for trump" was a line you could read on several occasions.
For me the turning point when was he stumped the pope. (the pope making remark about not building walls and trumps campaign twittering a picture of the Vatican surrounded by walls) After that he was untouchable I feel.

Outsider trump against establishment Hillary,it will be epic this November.
Think trump can win this if he plays it smart,but there is potential to screw up.

I will still say "only idiots vote for trump". It just seems there are more idiots then I expected.

You can look at bits and pieces of his idea's and proposals and agree with them but your voting to put the entire man into office, not the bits you like.
If you look at everything Drumpf has said and done and think "I think this is the best candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America" then I'm sorry but...
Your an idiot.


*You're

Yes, half of the US populations are idiots. When I was young, my father once told me that when I think that I'm right, and I think that everyone is wrong, it might be a good time to look around because chances that I'm wrong.

Anyway, calling 50%~ of the population that support Drumpf as idiots might be one of those "I shouldn't live on this planet anymore moments". I think that Drumpf is exactly what the US needs in its current situation.

edit: On the other side of things, why is the Democratic election even a topic of debate anymore - that election is as good as done.


Where are you getting the number that ~50% of people support Drumpf?


Don't polls show Drumpf up over Clinton a bit?


I was mostly thinking about his favorable/unfavorable numbers which show that only about 33% of people view him favorably.

Anyway, only one of several polls showed him up against Clinton, and it was within the margin of error:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
May 04 2016 00:16 GMT
#74439
On May 04 2016 09:09 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 09:07 Mercy13 wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:38 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:30 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 04 2016 08:22 pmh wrote:
Drumpf made it,there is no denying now.
Who would have seen this coming months ago "only idiots vote for trump" was a line you could read on several occasions.
For me the turning point when was he stumped the pope. (the pope making remark about not building walls and trumps campaign twittering a picture of the Vatican surrounded by walls) After that he was untouchable I feel.

Outsider trump against establishment Hillary,it will be epic this November.
Think trump can win this if he plays it smart,but there is potential to screw up.

I will still say "only idiots vote for trump". It just seems there are more idiots then I expected.

You can look at bits and pieces of his idea's and proposals and agree with them but your voting to put the entire man into office, not the bits you like.
If you look at everything Drumpf has said and done and think "I think this is the best candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America" then I'm sorry but...
Your an idiot.


*You're

Yes, half of the US populations are idiots. When I was young, my father once told me that when I think that I'm right, and I think that everyone is wrong, it might be a good time to look around because chances that I'm wrong.

Anyway, calling 50%~ of the population that support Drumpf as idiots might be one of those "I shouldn't live on this planet anymore moments". I think that Drumpf is exactly what the US needs in its current situation.

edit: On the other side of things, why is the Democratic election even a topic of debate anymore - that election is as good as done.


Where are you getting the number that ~50% of people support Trump?


Don't polls show Trump up over Clinton a bit?


Generally no, recently there was a poll where he was up by 2% though.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

It's tough to get an accurate number since more or less all polls are do you like x or y more. However, upon further inspection, I apologize, my number was exaggerated since everyone is apparently unfavorable (since people like to whine without providing solutions).

Hillary Approval 38%~
Trump Approval 30%~
Hillary Approval 43%~
Cruz Approval 30%~

Using http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
May 04 2016 00:17 GMT
#74440
On May 04 2016 09:10 Introvert wrote:
So when does the media and Hillary begin dumping the freight cars of oppo research on Trump? Do they still wait till June?


No reason to spend any time on it now. Let them actually try to pull this off first. There's plennnnnty of time for that.
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