EPTI don't dislike the man in particular, but that's a heck of an albatross around his neck.
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ticklishmusic
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I don't dislike the man in particular, but that's a heck of an albatross around his neck. | ||
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farvacola
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On April 13 2016 23:53 ticklishmusic wrote: Lol the moment Kasich gets any real traction with his "I did Ohio real good" schtick someone will just point out he was a MD at Lehman Brothers for 8 years up till it collapsed. Yeah you didn't screw up Ohio but you kind of did help blow up the entire economy. Infant mortality rates in the state, especially among minorities, in addition to a host of other criticisms (education and municipal funding come to mind) also bring the whole "Ohio is doing great under Kasich" schtick into severe question. It bears worth mentioning that no one in the Republican primary has or is going to raise those criticisms in the first place. | ||
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oneofthem
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what a surprise | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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On April 13 2016 11:48 killa_robot wrote: "What % you at?" "The 1%" "Here have 12 of them." i appreciated this | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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On April 14 2016 00:18 oneofthem wrote: http://time.com/4249034/bernie-sanders-alternative-medicine-cancer/ what a surprise yknow personally as someone who used to be super normie scientist on conventional vs alternative medicine, i would laugh at stuff like this. but cancer as a psychosomatic manifestation is something i believe in philosophically, and regardless of its empirical truth, i dont count it against him something along the lines of "cancer is something that comes to people who have strayed too far from what their heart of hearts know they should do" its just a bullshit thing but i think its a good idea. that said i still think hillarys probably waht this country would do better with for now | ||
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ticklishmusic
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On April 14 2016 00:22 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: yknow personally as someone who used to be super normie scientist on conventional vs alternative medicine, i would laugh at stuff like this. but cancer as a psychosomatic manifestation as something i believe in philosophically, and regardless of its empirical truth, i dont count it against him something along the lines of "cancer is something that comes to people who have strayed too far from what their heart of hearts know they should do" that said i still think hillarys probably waht this country would do better with for now ...what i agree there's value in some alternative-type treatments like traditional Chinese medicine (some of it anyways) and other stuff, but psychosomatic is a bit of a stretch. i can buy that stress operates through pathways that eventually lead to inflammation -> cancer, but i doubt that's the level bernie is/was thinking and i'm unsure if we even understood cancer to that degree a few decades ago. you totally lost me with the bolded line though and because i feel the need to shitpost i'm going to just let you know that your post almost gave me cancer. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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anecdotes about cancer going into remission once people follow their dreams cuz a terminal illness snapped them into it enjoying believing those stories is not something i'd count against anyone even if on some level im super skeptical of those stories | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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On April 14 2016 00:41 oneofthem wrote: bernie's history with these ideas isn't from those stories. it's rather from the psychological branch of the frankfurt school style theory. this is one of those strange idiosyncratic personal beliefs that are ok as long as the candidate knows not to get those beliefs too involved in their policy kinda like religion | ||
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Doodsmack
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On April 14 2016 00:37 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: its just a pseudo motivational thing anecdotes about cancer going into remission once people follow their dreams cuz a terminal illness snapped them into it enjoying believing those stories is not something i'd count against anyone even if on some level im super skeptical of those stories So your point is that believing cancer is the result of not following one's dreams is good philosophically because a couple people by coincidence have gone into remission. But even though it's philosophically good, it's a bullshit idea that probably isn't true. Somehow I'm not surprised you don't use capitalization or punctuation. Consider that people who buy into alternative medicine may do so at the expense of choosing actual treatments. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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personally im against the nanny state thats one part i hate about liberals let people kill themselves as long as it doesnt metastasize too much into the rest of society random plug for cancer inducing law blog | ||
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ticklishmusic
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Sanders believed that cultural forces were driving Americans to illness and that sexual repression caused cancer. “The manner in which you bring up your daughter with regard to sexual attitudes may very well determine whether or not she will develope (sic) breast cancer, among other things,” Sanders wrote. Err, no. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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where expected value is a useful and meaningful concept borne of and situated within sound empirical statistical methods what if i'm aware of that and still dont give a shit let me snort steve jobs' ashes for my pancreas ok he's not gonna dismantle conventional medicine lol | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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conventional medicine did not tell him to do that and the institution was always available for him to access and believe its not the government's job to force him to believe it im not advocating for "equal treatment" of alternative medicines either per se and if bernie is, who cares, he's probably not winning anyway?? maybe??? i havent really been following government just needs to make sure that everyone is told what the most reputable people in medicine believe to be their best treatment from then on they can decide for themselves | ||
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Of course, we are not talking about straight up frauds charging thousands for “space crystal treatments”. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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i dont want further mechanisms to force really weird people like me who believe in total self-determination to get locked up or forced into shit even if the most reputable people think its best or whatever sounds scary i know itll never come into play o wait i didnt even read the article LOL bernie's stupid he's using government money for this shit gg alright im out of this thread that was embarrassing | ||
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