|
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up! NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious. Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action. |
On March 22 2016 12:44 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 12:32 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 22 2016 12:23 Mohdoo wrote:
Its really weird that Kasich is basically just openly saying he's waiting for a convention so that he is granted the nomination without anywhere close to half the votes, lol. I mean unless Trump pulls away big in the remaining states whoever gets nominated is only going to have gotten like 40% of the votes, which qualifies as not terribly close in my book. His polling is still not majority level. Even if he clinches it he'll have had the lowest popular vote share of a nominated candidate in primaries for quite some time I think (though some of this is how long it dragged on). In that sense I can't really fault Kasich/Cruz. On March 22 2016 11:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate, hate, hate when Bernie dismisses the Deep South. Does he have any idea how hard it is to be a progressive here? I'm from Louisiana, a state which had Bobby fucking Jindal as governor. He gutted our education system, our budget and did more damage to our state than fucking Hurricane Katrina. We fight every day against religious freedom acts, creationism and all sorts of dumb shit every day. We work our asses to keep from losing ground, let alone getting ahead. Our small victories are hard won. Revolution looks easy as shit from lily white, ultra blue Vermont I bet. It honestly made my blood boil when I saw people saying that Hillary's victories in the South were somehow less meaningful because they were red states and thus somehow not real Democrats or should be less influential. Or that she'll win on the back of the South and this somehow makes it less legitimate. Seriously? 2008 wasn't that long ago... Show nested quote +The Clinton spin machine has been consistent about this. Nebraska, Idaho and Utah didn't matter because they were deep-red states. South Carolina, Louisiana and Georgia didn't matter because they had large percentages of black voters. Source
I'm not sure why you think it wouldn't make my blood boil if/when Clinton did it. It's as dumb as dismissing blue states in the Republican contests.
|
On March 22 2016 13:20 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 12:44 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 22 2016 12:32 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 22 2016 12:23 Mohdoo wrote:
Its really weird that Kasich is basically just openly saying he's waiting for a convention so that he is granted the nomination without anywhere close to half the votes, lol. I mean unless Trump pulls away big in the remaining states whoever gets nominated is only going to have gotten like 40% of the votes, which qualifies as not terribly close in my book. His polling is still not majority level. Even if he clinches it he'll have had the lowest popular vote share of a nominated candidate in primaries for quite some time I think (though some of this is how long it dragged on). In that sense I can't really fault Kasich/Cruz. On March 22 2016 11:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate, hate, hate when Bernie dismisses the Deep South. Does he have any idea how hard it is to be a progressive here? I'm from Louisiana, a state which had Bobby fucking Jindal as governor. He gutted our education system, our budget and did more damage to our state than fucking Hurricane Katrina. We fight every day against religious freedom acts, creationism and all sorts of dumb shit every day. We work our asses to keep from losing ground, let alone getting ahead. Our small victories are hard won. Revolution looks easy as shit from lily white, ultra blue Vermont I bet. It honestly made my blood boil when I saw people saying that Hillary's victories in the South were somehow less meaningful because they were red states and thus somehow not real Democrats or should be less influential. Or that she'll win on the back of the South and this somehow makes it less legitimate. Seriously? 2008 wasn't that long ago... The Clinton spin machine has been consistent about this. Nebraska, Idaho and Utah didn't matter because they were deep-red states. South Carolina, Louisiana and Georgia didn't matter because they had large percentages of black voters. Source I'm not sure why you think it wouldn't make my blood boil if/when Clinton did it. It's as dumb as dismissing blue states in the Republican contests.
What specifically did he say that made your blood boil?
|
United States43677 Posts
The Washington Post .... they don’t write good
I’m not looking for bad.
And I would create in the inner cities, which is what I really do best, that’s why when I open a building and I show you it’s way ahead of schedule, under budget and everything else—I think it was the Rite Aid store, the store in Baltimore it took them 20 years to get it built, one store, and then it burned down in one night—we have to create incentives for people to love what they are doing, and to make money.
|
adverbs and Trump apparently don't go hand in hand
|
United States43677 Posts
On March 22 2016 13:02 kwizach wrote:It's hard to imagine better evidence that Trump is completely over his head when discussing policy, and that he essentially has no clue whatsoever of what he's talking about. Those answers are as embarrassing as Sarah Palin's 2008 interview with Katie Couric, if not more. He's genuinely incapable of talking about the issues brought up by the Washington Post's editorial board without deflecting. If this was a performance in a movie, you'd think "man, they went too far with this one, it's just not believable". His ignorance is mind-blowing.
Palin's "I can see Russia so I have foreign policy experience" makes her a practical expert compared to Trump's "I have a Chinese tenant in one of my buildings so I have a strong insight into the mind of China".
The hands thing was amazing too. They asked him if it wasn't a little non Presidential to start talking about his hands and dick in a debate and rather than answer the question he got really defensive about the size of his hands. They tried to steer him back on topic but he went back to how a lot of people say that his hands are actually normal sized. They again tried to get him back on topic so he explained that actually his glove size is a little bit smaller than a large so maybe his hands could even be called large and not even medium and certainly not small. They tried one more time but he kept trying to convince them that he doesn't have small hands so they just changed the subject.
That man is hilariously insecure about his hands.
|
United States43677 Posts
"South Korea doesn't help at all"
"Did you know South Korea pays 50% of the costs of the US forces?"
"I have a building in South Korea"
actual exchange
|
I think just about all of us knew what kind of person Donald Trump was before he even ran for office. He's a reality TV persona for fuck's sake. Calling him out on it doesn't change a damn thing.
Personally I just enjoy seeing how much of a mockery he is making of the Republican party. Cruz is worse and Kasich is only very slightly better (talks professionally but has batshit insane politics), so I'm no more worried about him being the nominee than the others.
Old article that still applies: http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/admit-it-you-people-want-see-how-far-goes-dont-you-50895
|
Don't really know enough about the f-35 program specifically, but I've always thought of military r&d spending more akin to practical application of NASA, with more explosions (the good kind)
|
On March 22 2016 14:01 wei2coolman wrote:
Don't really know enough about the f-35 program specifically, but I've always thought of military r&d spending more akin to practical application of NASA, with more explosions (the good kind)
It is a big subsidy to high tech industry. Practical minded engineers always have a job in this country thanks to our giant defense budgets. I am a pretty hardcore Democrat and I am fine with big military budgets. If we just did a better job of open sourcing the technology developed by the defense industry I would be more for it.
|
Trump's English is only slightly better than that of the illegal immigrants he wants to keep out. I'm sure I screwed up somewhere grammatically, which makes my post unintentionally ironic.
|
On March 22 2016 14:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump's English is only slightly better than that of the illegal immigrants he wants to keep out. I'm sure I screwed up somewhere grammatically, which makes my post unintentionally ironic.
His current public speech English, which is vastly different than his actual English level.
Understanding your audience by using proper English level is key in communications.
|
On March 22 2016 14:42 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 14:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump's English is only slightly better than that of the illegal immigrants he wants to keep out. I'm sure I screwed up somewhere grammatically, which makes my post unintentionally ironic. His current public speech English, which is vastly different than his actual English level. Understanding your audience by using proper English level is key in communications.
The Washington Post editorial board is composed of 8-year-olds?
|
Canada2764 Posts
Arizona is going to be immensely interesting tonight. I'm not quite sure if the Sanders hype train is dead yet- Missouri and Illinois (and even North Carolina) all went fairly well for him despite his overall failure last tuesday, and if he's able to score a stunning win in Arizona he should win everything until New York. Of course whether or not he can win New York is a huge question and would be -the- biggest upset of the entire race so far, but if he can? Well, I think we can say he's not out yet.
|
On March 22 2016 13:36 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 13:20 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 22 2016 12:44 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 22 2016 12:32 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 22 2016 12:23 Mohdoo wrote:
Its really weird that Kasich is basically just openly saying he's waiting for a convention so that he is granted the nomination without anywhere close to half the votes, lol. I mean unless Trump pulls away big in the remaining states whoever gets nominated is only going to have gotten like 40% of the votes, which qualifies as not terribly close in my book. His polling is still not majority level. Even if he clinches it he'll have had the lowest popular vote share of a nominated candidate in primaries for quite some time I think (though some of this is how long it dragged on). In that sense I can't really fault Kasich/Cruz. On March 22 2016 11:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate, hate, hate when Bernie dismisses the Deep South. Does he have any idea how hard it is to be a progressive here? I'm from Louisiana, a state which had Bobby fucking Jindal as governor. He gutted our education system, our budget and did more damage to our state than fucking Hurricane Katrina. We fight every day against religious freedom acts, creationism and all sorts of dumb shit every day. We work our asses to keep from losing ground, let alone getting ahead. Our small victories are hard won. Revolution looks easy as shit from lily white, ultra blue Vermont I bet. It honestly made my blood boil when I saw people saying that Hillary's victories in the South were somehow less meaningful because they were red states and thus somehow not real Democrats or should be less influential. Or that she'll win on the back of the South and this somehow makes it less legitimate. Seriously? 2008 wasn't that long ago... The Clinton spin machine has been consistent about this. Nebraska, Idaho and Utah didn't matter because they were deep-red states. South Carolina, Louisiana and Georgia didn't matter because they had large percentages of black voters. Source I'm not sure why you think it wouldn't make my blood boil if/when Clinton did it. It's as dumb as dismissing blue states in the Republican contests. What specifically did he say that made your blood boil?
I was talking about people. Edit: Specifically the 538 Facebook feed whenever they were doing a live report. I wasn't ever talking about Sanders. I'm not sure why you are so hyperprotective of the man. I even voted for him.
On March 22 2016 14:42 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 14:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump's English is only slightly better than that of the illegal immigrants he wants to keep out. I'm sure I screwed up somewhere grammatically, which makes my post unintentionally ironic. His current public speech English, which is vastly different than his actual English level. Understanding your audience by using proper English level is key in communications.
Does bizarrely inferring that Hispanics and African Americans like you overall because of how they broke down in small sample Republican exit polls also compose a key part of communications? That is such an absurdly staggering logical failure that I can barely wrap my head around how someone could misunderstand it while being a candidate running for political office.
Interviews like that make me doubt that Trump's political persona is a publicity manufacturing crow pleasing cartoon character but I still think it probably is.
|
People who are trying to dodge a question very rarely warm up to the follow-up questions.
|
On March 22 2016 15:04 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 13:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 22 2016 13:20 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 22 2016 12:44 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 22 2016 12:32 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 22 2016 12:23 Mohdoo wrote:
Its really weird that Kasich is basically just openly saying he's waiting for a convention so that he is granted the nomination without anywhere close to half the votes, lol. I mean unless Trump pulls away big in the remaining states whoever gets nominated is only going to have gotten like 40% of the votes, which qualifies as not terribly close in my book. His polling is still not majority level. Even if he clinches it he'll have had the lowest popular vote share of a nominated candidate in primaries for quite some time I think (though some of this is how long it dragged on). In that sense I can't really fault Kasich/Cruz. On March 22 2016 11:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate, hate, hate when Bernie dismisses the Deep South. Does he have any idea how hard it is to be a progressive here? I'm from Louisiana, a state which had Bobby fucking Jindal as governor. He gutted our education system, our budget and did more damage to our state than fucking Hurricane Katrina. We fight every day against religious freedom acts, creationism and all sorts of dumb shit every day. We work our asses to keep from losing ground, let alone getting ahead. Our small victories are hard won. Revolution looks easy as shit from lily white, ultra blue Vermont I bet. It honestly made my blood boil when I saw people saying that Hillary's victories in the South were somehow less meaningful because they were red states and thus somehow not real Democrats or should be less influential. Or that she'll win on the back of the South and this somehow makes it less legitimate. Seriously? 2008 wasn't that long ago... The Clinton spin machine has been consistent about this. Nebraska, Idaho and Utah didn't matter because they were deep-red states. South Carolina, Louisiana and Georgia didn't matter because they had large percentages of black voters. Source I'm not sure why you think it wouldn't make my blood boil if/when Clinton did it. It's as dumb as dismissing blue states in the Republican contests. What specifically did he say that made your blood boil? I was talking about people. Edit: Specifically the 538 Facebook feed whenever they were doing a live report. I wasn't ever talking about Sanders. I'm not sure why you are so hyperprotective of the man. I even voted for him. Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 14:42 wei2coolman wrote:On March 22 2016 14:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump's English is only slightly better than that of the illegal immigrants he wants to keep out. I'm sure I screwed up somewhere grammatically, which makes my post unintentionally ironic. His current public speech English, which is vastly different than his actual English level. Understanding your audience by using proper English level is key in communications. Does bizarrely inferring that Hispanics and African Americans like you overall because of how they broke down in small sample Republican exit polls also compose a key part of communications? That is such an absurdly staggering logical failure that I can barely wrap my head around how someone could misunderstand it while being a candidate running for political office. Interviews like that make me doubt that Trump's political persona is a publicity manufacturing crow pleasing cartoon character but I still think it probably is.
In what way did I imply anything regarding minority exit polls, or minority support in my comment?
I was just talking about his wide appeal overall, that also includes less educated white majorities. Especially shown in his success in Southern states.
|
On March 22 2016 13:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +The FBI says it may have found a way to crack into the iPhone of one of the San Bernardino terrorists without Apple's help. While it explores this option, a federal judge has postponed Tuesday's hearing that would have been the next step in the battle to get Apple to follow a court order to cooperate.
The FBI says that on Sunday, an "outside party" demonstrated to the FBI a "possible method for unlocking" Syed Rizwan Farook's iPhone.
The government's court filing to delay the hearing adds, "Testing is required to determine whether this is a viable method that will not compromise data on Farook's iPhone. If the method is viable, it should eliminate the need for the assistance from Apple Inc."
The FBI is not asking to dismiss the case, just for time to test the new option. The government has been ordered to file a report on the status of the testing by April 5. Source
No shit. Apple told everyone about the glaring security flaw (updates allowed) in thier system. Knowing that there is no reason you can't brute force retroactivly do it with enough computer power and knowledge of associations.
|
On March 22 2016 15:04 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 13:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 22 2016 13:20 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 22 2016 12:44 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 22 2016 12:32 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 22 2016 12:23 Mohdoo wrote:
Its really weird that Kasich is basically just openly saying he's waiting for a convention so that he is granted the nomination without anywhere close to half the votes, lol. I mean unless Trump pulls away big in the remaining states whoever gets nominated is only going to have gotten like 40% of the votes, which qualifies as not terribly close in my book. His polling is still not majority level. Even if he clinches it he'll have had the lowest popular vote share of a nominated candidate in primaries for quite some time I think (though some of this is how long it dragged on). In that sense I can't really fault Kasich/Cruz. On March 22 2016 11:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate, hate, hate when Bernie dismisses the Deep South. Does he have any idea how hard it is to be a progressive here? I'm from Louisiana, a state which had Bobby fucking Jindal as governor. He gutted our education system, our budget and did more damage to our state than fucking Hurricane Katrina. We fight every day against religious freedom acts, creationism and all sorts of dumb shit every day. We work our asses to keep from losing ground, let alone getting ahead. Our small victories are hard won. Revolution looks easy as shit from lily white, ultra blue Vermont I bet. It honestly made my blood boil when I saw people saying that Hillary's victories in the South were somehow less meaningful because they were red states and thus somehow not real Democrats or should be less influential. Or that she'll win on the back of the South and this somehow makes it less legitimate. Seriously? 2008 wasn't that long ago... The Clinton spin machine has been consistent about this. Nebraska, Idaho and Utah didn't matter because they were deep-red states. South Carolina, Louisiana and Georgia didn't matter because they had large percentages of black voters. Source I'm not sure why you think it wouldn't make my blood boil if/when Clinton did it. It's as dumb as dismissing blue states in the Republican contests. What specifically did he say that made your blood boil? I was talking about people. I wasn't ever talking about Sanders. I'm not sure why you are so hyperprotective of the man. I even voted for him. Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 14:42 wei2coolman wrote:On March 22 2016 14:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump's English is only slightly better than that of the illegal immigrants he wants to keep out. I'm sure I screwed up somewhere grammatically, which makes my post unintentionally ironic. His current public speech English, which is vastly different than his actual English level. Understanding your audience by using proper English level is key in communications. Does bizarrely inferring that Hispanics and African Americans like you overall because of how they broke down in small sample Republican exit polls also compose a key part of communications? That is such an absurdly staggering logical failure that I can barely wrap my head around how someone could misunderstand it while being a candidate running for political office. Interviews like that make me doubt that Trump's political persona is a publicity manufacturing crow pleasing cartoon character but I still think it probably is.
Well you quoted Ticklish who named him specifically so presumably you agreed that Bernie did it and were adding "people" in general.
If we're just talking about random people, yeah some of the dismissals have been troubling to me as well, particularly around race. Then I peek into what Hillary supporters are saying about folks like Ashley Williams and I remember Sanders camp is as good as it gets for black people in presidential politics this election.
Not hyperprotective just tired of faux outrage.
|
On March 22 2016 15:11 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 13:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:The FBI says it may have found a way to crack into the iPhone of one of the San Bernardino terrorists without Apple's help. While it explores this option, a federal judge has postponed Tuesday's hearing that would have been the next step in the battle to get Apple to follow a court order to cooperate.
The FBI says that on Sunday, an "outside party" demonstrated to the FBI a "possible method for unlocking" Syed Rizwan Farook's iPhone.
The government's court filing to delay the hearing adds, "Testing is required to determine whether this is a viable method that will not compromise data on Farook's iPhone. If the method is viable, it should eliminate the need for the assistance from Apple Inc."
The FBI is not asking to dismiss the case, just for time to test the new option. The government has been ordered to file a report on the status of the testing by April 5. Source No shit. Apple told everyone about the glaring security flaw (updates allowed) in thier system. Knowing that there is no reason you can't brute force retroactivly do it with enough computer power and knowledge of associations.
you'd be surprised at how long it would take to brute force any half decent encryption.
The problem was the FBI wanted Apple's certification so it could send an update to the phone to unlock it, which would have compromised every single Apple product if that certification was ever leaked.
|
On March 22 2016 15:10 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2016 15:04 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 22 2016 13:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 22 2016 13:20 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 22 2016 12:44 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 22 2016 12:32 TheTenthDoc wrote:On March 22 2016 12:23 Mohdoo wrote:
Its really weird that Kasich is basically just openly saying he's waiting for a convention so that he is granted the nomination without anywhere close to half the votes, lol. I mean unless Trump pulls away big in the remaining states whoever gets nominated is only going to have gotten like 40% of the votes, which qualifies as not terribly close in my book. His polling is still not majority level. Even if he clinches it he'll have had the lowest popular vote share of a nominated candidate in primaries for quite some time I think (though some of this is how long it dragged on). In that sense I can't really fault Kasich/Cruz. On March 22 2016 11:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate, hate, hate when Bernie dismisses the Deep South. Does he have any idea how hard it is to be a progressive here? I'm from Louisiana, a state which had Bobby fucking Jindal as governor. He gutted our education system, our budget and did more damage to our state than fucking Hurricane Katrina. We fight every day against religious freedom acts, creationism and all sorts of dumb shit every day. We work our asses to keep from losing ground, let alone getting ahead. Our small victories are hard won. Revolution looks easy as shit from lily white, ultra blue Vermont I bet. It honestly made my blood boil when I saw people saying that Hillary's victories in the South were somehow less meaningful because they were red states and thus somehow not real Democrats or should be less influential. Or that she'll win on the back of the South and this somehow makes it less legitimate. Seriously? 2008 wasn't that long ago... The Clinton spin machine has been consistent about this. Nebraska, Idaho and Utah didn't matter because they were deep-red states. South Carolina, Louisiana and Georgia didn't matter because they had large percentages of black voters. Source I'm not sure why you think it wouldn't make my blood boil if/when Clinton did it. It's as dumb as dismissing blue states in the Republican contests. What specifically did he say that made your blood boil? I was talking about people. Edit: Specifically the 538 Facebook feed whenever they were doing a live report. I wasn't ever talking about Sanders. I'm not sure why you are so hyperprotective of the man. I even voted for him. On March 22 2016 14:42 wei2coolman wrote:On March 22 2016 14:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump's English is only slightly better than that of the illegal immigrants he wants to keep out. I'm sure I screwed up somewhere grammatically, which makes my post unintentionally ironic. His current public speech English, which is vastly different than his actual English level. Understanding your audience by using proper English level is key in communications. Does bizarrely inferring that Hispanics and African Americans like you overall because of how they broke down in small sample Republican exit polls also compose a key part of communications? That is such an absurdly staggering logical failure that I can barely wrap my head around how someone could misunderstand it while being a candidate running for political office. Interviews like that make me doubt that Trump's political persona is a publicity manufacturing crow pleasing cartoon character but I still think it probably is. I was just talking about his wide appeal overall, that also includes less educated white majorities. Especially shown in his success in Southern states.
...except we were talking about his discussion with the Washington Post editorial board. In that discussion, he displayed both astonishing levels of ignorance and an extremely poor mastery of grammar.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
