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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6261 Posts
February 26 2016 16:07 GMT
#61001
Can anyone explain to me why Carson and Kasich are still in the race? They obviously have no chance to get nominated.

I'm 40 minutes into the debate from yesterday and they're pretty irrelevant.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-26 16:10:18
February 26 2016 16:09 GMT
#61002
On February 27 2016 00:50 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 13:04 GreenHorizons wrote:
Mass shooting doesn't get any response... Let me guess, not a "terrorist" and probably white right?

Nope a black man. So probably not a "terrorist" right?

Probably a superpredator.

On February 27 2016 01:07 RvB wrote:
Can anyone explain to me why Carson and Kasich are still in the race? They obviously have no chance to get nominated.

I'm 40 minutes into the debate from yesterday and they're pretty irrelevant.

Kasich is still doing OK in a lot of the upcoming primaries. Carson is there for the attention he gets very occasionally.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 26 2016 16:14 GMT
#61003
Carson is selling books. Kasich is angling for a position in the next administration.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43505 Posts
February 26 2016 16:17 GMT
#61004
To backtrack to the conversation yesterday about 80s crime rates and the perception that it would devolve into full on urban warfare (Demolition Man, Robocop, Predator II and so forth) I read a fairly interesting article that argued that the lead pollution from leaded petrol gave an entire generation of city dwellers brain damage. The superpredators comment was a reference to a demographic swell of young black men who were predicted to reach their prime criminal years in an unstoppable wave of violence. There was never really a good explanation for why that didn't happen but the article posits that the deciding factor between the previous generation and that generation was the phasing out of leaded petrol.
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8694 Posts
February 26 2016 16:23 GMT
#61005
On February 27 2016 00:44 oneofthem wrote:
liberals should be supporting the nsa etc right now, because if there is a large terrorist attack right now say hi to prez trump.


again one they did not see coming and/or did not warn us about!
and oh boy keeping up with this thread is damn exhausting, especially after work + another rep debate ^^


oh btw, people mentioned idiocracy?

http://usuncut.com/politics/idiocracy-writer-says-his-satire-of-america-has-become-reality/




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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 26 2016 16:31 GMT
#61006
Nearly a year before Michigan governor Rick Snyder publicly admitted his knowledge of the city of Flint’s lead-contaminated water crisis, advisers in his office had advocated moving Flint back to its prior drinking water source “before this thing gets too far out of control”, newly released emails reveal.

And nearly seven months before Snyder’s announcement in October 2015, his former chief of staff had internally proposed purchasing bottled water for Flint’s residents – even as the governor’s administration publicly rebuffed any characterization that Flint’s water wasn’t safe to drink.

Those are some of the revelations in a batch of 550 emails newly released by Snyder’s office to the Detroit Free Press and the Detroit News, a small slice of 8,000-10,000 emails expected to be released on Friday. Flint’s water became contaminated in April 2014 after the city, run by a governor-appointed emergency manager, switched its drinking water source to a corrosive local river. The city wasn’t required by Michigan’s environmental agency to treat the water with anti-corrosion agents that would have prevented lead from leaching off pipes and flowing into households.

It’s unclear why the governor’s office chose to release only a select number of emails ahead of Friday’s expected release. A message requesting comment was not immediately returned.


Source
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15732 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-26 16:51:49
February 26 2016 16:51 GMT
#61007
On February 27 2016 01:31 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Nearly a year before Michigan governor Rick Snyder publicly admitted his knowledge of the city of Flint’s lead-contaminated water crisis, advisers in his office had advocated moving Flint back to its prior drinking water source “before this thing gets too far out of control”, newly released emails reveal.

And nearly seven months before Snyder’s announcement in October 2015, his former chief of staff had internally proposed purchasing bottled water for Flint’s residents – even as the governor’s administration publicly rebuffed any characterization that Flint’s water wasn’t safe to drink.

Those are some of the revelations in a batch of 550 emails newly released by Snyder’s office to the Detroit Free Press and the Detroit News, a small slice of 8,000-10,000 emails expected to be released on Friday. Flint’s water became contaminated in April 2014 after the city, run by a governor-appointed emergency manager, switched its drinking water source to a corrosive local river. The city wasn’t required by Michigan’s environmental agency to treat the water with anti-corrosion agents that would have prevented lead from leaching off pipes and flowing into households.

It’s unclear why the governor’s office chose to release only a select number of emails ahead of Friday’s expected release. A message requesting comment was not immediately returned.


Source


Think about how many kids have permanent brain damage now. This is sort of like a mass murder in a way. And clearly they knew it was happening. This is truly bizarre. From where I'm sitting, life in prison for everyone involved seems appropriate. They have completely ruined so many lives. It's so huge its daunting.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23593 Posts
February 26 2016 16:53 GMT
#61008
On February 27 2016 01:17 KwarK wrote:
To backtrack to the conversation yesterday about 80s crime rates and the perception that it would devolve into full on urban warfare (Demolition Man, Robocop, Predator II and so forth) I read a fairly interesting article that argued that the lead pollution from leaded petrol gave an entire generation of city dwellers brain damage. The superpredators comment was a reference to a demographic swell of young black men who were predicted to reach their prime criminal years in an unstoppable wave of violence. There was never really a good explanation for why that didn't happen but the article posits that the deciding factor between the previous generation and that generation was the phasing out of leaded petrol.


On February 27 2016 01:31 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Nearly a year before Michigan governor Rick Snyder publicly admitted his knowledge of the city of Flint’s lead-contaminated water crisis, advisers in his office had advocated moving Flint back to its prior drinking water source “before this thing gets too far out of control”, newly released emails reveal.

And nearly seven months before Snyder’s announcement in October 2015, his former chief of staff had internally proposed purchasing bottled water for Flint’s residents – even as the governor’s administration publicly rebuffed any characterization that Flint’s water wasn’t safe to drink.

Those are some of the revelations in a batch of 550 emails newly released by Snyder’s office to the Detroit Free Press and the Detroit News, a small slice of 8,000-10,000 emails expected to be released on Friday. Flint’s water became contaminated in April 2014 after the city, run by a governor-appointed emergency manager, switched its drinking water source to a corrosive local river. The city wasn’t required by Michigan’s environmental agency to treat the water with anti-corrosion agents that would have prevented lead from leaching off pipes and flowing into households.

It’s unclear why the governor’s office chose to release only a select number of emails ahead of Friday’s expected release. A message requesting comment was not immediately returned.


Source


So we're living through the prequel to Robocop right?


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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 26 2016 16:57 GMT
#61009
If you watch the video for the Altus Robot from Boston dynamics and the rise of VR, yes. One of Trumps staff wore a necklace made of bullets. We are almost at peak robo-cop.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43505 Posts
February 26 2016 16:57 GMT
#61010
Not really. As terrible as Flint is it's nothing compared to leaded petrol. If we accept the link between lead poisoning, brain damage and criminality though then the inevitable conclusion is that the EPA have done more to fight crime and lift people out of poverty than decades of tough on crime policies and law enforcement could have dreamed. It also leads to an uncomfortable question of assigning guilt if Flint children become violent offenders. I have no desire to excuse violent criminals but on the other hand if it had happened to me I'd certainly want it noted that a contributing factor was that time I was poisoned by the city as a child.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 26 2016 16:59 GMT
#61011
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
February 26 2016 17:14 GMT
#61012
Haha, that's a fantastic roast.

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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8694 Posts
February 26 2016 17:16 GMT
#61013
yeah I saw this on twitter and on the nbc page.

apparently graham is going down the jon stewart road. shit's so bad you have to make jokes about it to cope.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-26 17:43:51
February 26 2016 17:42 GMT
#61014
On February 27 2016 01:23 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2016 00:44 oneofthem wrote:
liberals should be supporting the nsa etc right now, because if there is a large terrorist attack right now say hi to prez trump.


again one they did not see coming and/or did not warn us about!
and oh boy keeping up with this thread is damn exhausting, especially after work + another rep debate ^^


oh btw, people mentioned idiocracy?

http://usuncut.com/politics/idiocracy-writer-says-his-satire-of-america-has-become-reality/





simplistic take on a dynamic situation. the french attacks would not have occurred in the u.s.


keep reflexively reacting to anything not in line with privacy blah it is entertaining
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
February 26 2016 17:52 GMT
#61015
On February 27 2016 02:42 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2016 01:23 Doublemint wrote:
On February 27 2016 00:44 oneofthem wrote:
liberals should be supporting the nsa etc right now, because if there is a large terrorist attack right now say hi to prez trump.


again one they did not see coming and/or did not warn us about!
and oh boy keeping up with this thread is damn exhausting, especially after work + another rep debate ^^


oh btw, people mentioned idiocracy?

http://usuncut.com/politics/idiocracy-writer-says-his-satire-of-america-has-become-reality/





simplistic take on a dynamic situation. the french attacks would not have occurred in the u.s.

what is that statement based on?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 26 2016 17:53 GMT
#61016
On February 27 2016 01:51 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2016 01:31 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Nearly a year before Michigan governor Rick Snyder publicly admitted his knowledge of the city of Flint’s lead-contaminated water crisis, advisers in his office had advocated moving Flint back to its prior drinking water source “before this thing gets too far out of control”, newly released emails reveal.

And nearly seven months before Snyder’s announcement in October 2015, his former chief of staff had internally proposed purchasing bottled water for Flint’s residents – even as the governor’s administration publicly rebuffed any characterization that Flint’s water wasn’t safe to drink.

Those are some of the revelations in a batch of 550 emails newly released by Snyder’s office to the Detroit Free Press and the Detroit News, a small slice of 8,000-10,000 emails expected to be released on Friday. Flint’s water became contaminated in April 2014 after the city, run by a governor-appointed emergency manager, switched its drinking water source to a corrosive local river. The city wasn’t required by Michigan’s environmental agency to treat the water with anti-corrosion agents that would have prevented lead from leaching off pipes and flowing into households.

It’s unclear why the governor’s office chose to release only a select number of emails ahead of Friday’s expected release. A message requesting comment was not immediately returned.


Source


Think about how many kids have permanent brain damage now. This is sort of like a mass murder in a way. And clearly they knew it was happening. This is truly bizarre. From where I'm sitting, life in prison for everyone involved seems appropriate. They have completely ruined so many lives. It's so huge its daunting.
worse than mass murder in some ways really.

but yea with all the evidence of knowledge on their part they should be personally prosecuted
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 26 2016 17:55 GMT
#61017
Christie just endorsed Trump.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4885 Posts
February 26 2016 17:56 GMT
#61018
Christie and Trump seem made for each other. I hope they are happy together. Congratz! lol.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5823 Posts
February 26 2016 17:59 GMT
#61019


Politics will never be the same.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 26 2016 18:00 GMT
#61020
Fat man that hates recess endorses billionaire that created a fake college.

Christie just doesn't want to be sent to the wall after Trump is elected.
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