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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 03:30:25
February 10 2016 03:29 GMT
#57481
On February 10 2016 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.

Bernie needs to show that he can win some other states before I'd put money on him winning the nomination. And he is hilariously unelectable at a national level.


One of our rare moments of agreement outside sports.

It's okay, we can be friends until the end of election season. Then we can go back to half-jokingly hostile.

To everyone else: So how about a banbet? 1 month NV + SC if Hillary/Sanders win both (you know what I mean), if there's a split we'll sigbet-- I tell you something to add to yours, you add to mine for a month.

My signature and account status belong to my future wife, good sir. However, you've already accepted terms so we'll see what shakes out
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
February 10 2016 03:31 GMT
#57482
On February 10 2016 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.

Bernie needs to show that he can win some other states before I'd put money on him winning the nomination. And he is hilariously unelectable at a national level.


One of our rare moments of agreement outside sports.

It's okay, we can be friends until the end of election season. Then we can go back to half-jokingly hostile.

To everyone else: So how about a banbet? 1 month NV + SC if Hillary/Sanders win both (you know what I mean), if there's a split we'll sigbet-- I tell you something to add to yours, you add to mine for a month.


On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.


The wager (with yourself) has been acknowledged by the mods
rip passion
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 10 2016 03:32 GMT
#57483
On February 10 2016 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.

Bernie needs to show that he can win some other states before I'd put money on him winning the nomination. And he is hilariously unelectable at a national level.


One of our rare moments of agreement outside sports.

It's okay, we can be friends until the end of election season. Then we can go back to half-jokingly hostile.

To everyone else: So how about a banbet? 1 month NV + SC if Hillary/Sanders win both (you know what I mean), if there's a split we'll sigbet-- I tell you something to add to yours, you add to mine for a month.


Hmmmmm sure I'll take that.

Worst case, a 1 month break from posting. I could probably do with that anyway ^.^
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 10 2016 03:34 GMT
#57484
bernie winning leading to a trump presidency would be hilarious
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23591 Posts
February 10 2016 03:35 GMT
#57485
On February 10 2016 12:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.

Bernie needs to show that he can win some other states before I'd put money on him winning the nomination. And he is hilariously unelectable at a national level.


One of our rare moments of agreement outside sports.

It's okay, we can be friends until the end of election season. Then we can go back to half-jokingly hostile.

To everyone else: So how about a banbet? 1 month NV + SC if Hillary/Sanders win both (you know what I mean), if there's a split we'll sigbet-- I tell you something to add to yours, you add to mine for a month.


Hmmmmm sure I'll take that.

Worst case, a 1 month break from posting. I could probably do with that anyway ^.^



More time to phonebank who knows maybe even go outside

I think you'll be ok anyway, the media has already been talking about how they plan on paying more attention to Republicans in SC (same day as Nevada).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 10 2016 03:38 GMT
#57486
On February 10 2016 12:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.

Bernie needs to show that he can win some other states before I'd put money on him winning the nomination. And he is hilariously unelectable at a national level.


One of our rare moments of agreement outside sports.

It's okay, we can be friends until the end of election season. Then we can go back to half-jokingly hostile.

To everyone else: So how about a banbet? 1 month NV + SC if Hillary/Sanders win both (you know what I mean), if there's a split we'll sigbet-- I tell you something to add to yours, you add to mine for a month.


Hmmmmm sure I'll take that.

Worst case, a 1 month break from posting. I could probably do with that anyway ^.^


someone willing to put something on the line (btw, how much money did you lose on the Iowa bet GH?)

farva is excepted ofc, congrats on his engagement/relationship/life sentence
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
February 10 2016 03:42 GMT
#57487
I'm not expecting Bernie to win NV/SC, nor does he have to. He just has to keep it close.
Writer
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 03:45:04
February 10 2016 03:43 GMT
#57488
On February 10 2016 12:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.

Bernie needs to show that he can win some other states before I'd put money on him winning the nomination. And he is hilariously unelectable at a national level.


One of our rare moments of agreement outside sports.

It's okay, we can be friends until the end of election season. Then we can go back to half-jokingly hostile.

To everyone else: So how about a banbet? 1 month NV + SC if Hillary/Sanders win both (you know what I mean), if there's a split we'll sigbet-- I tell you something to add to yours, you add to mine for a month.


Hmmmmm sure I'll take that.

Worst case, a 1 month break from posting. I could probably do with that anyway ^.^


someone willing to put something on the line (btw, how much money did you lose on the Iowa bet GH?)

farva is excepted ofc, congrats on his engagement/relationship/life sentence


Ha, I'm still happy to bet on the nomination if this blowout has given you knew hope? Nothing on Iowa, wouldn't want to remind people of that shadiness either if I was a Hillary supporter...

Bernie's margin of victory is bigger than Kasich's vote total haha.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 10 2016 03:43 GMT
#57489
On February 10 2016 12:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.

Bernie needs to show that he can win some other states before I'd put money on him winning the nomination. And he is hilariously unelectable at a national level.


One of our rare moments of agreement outside sports.

It's okay, we can be friends until the end of election season. Then we can go back to half-jokingly hostile.

To everyone else: So how about a banbet? 1 month NV + SC if Hillary/Sanders win both (you know what I mean), if there's a split we'll sigbet-- I tell you something to add to yours, you add to mine for a month.


Hmmmmm sure I'll take that.

Worst case, a 1 month break from posting. I could probably do with that anyway ^.^


someone willing to put something on the line (btw, how much money did you lose on the Iowa bet GH?)

farva is excepted ofc, congrats on his engagement/relationship/life sentence


I'll predict Sanders takes NV and Clinton keeps SC.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 10 2016 03:47 GMT
#57490
On February 10 2016 12:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.

Bernie needs to show that he can win some other states before I'd put money on him winning the nomination. And he is hilariously unelectable at a national level.


One of our rare moments of agreement outside sports.

It's okay, we can be friends until the end of election season. Then we can go back to half-jokingly hostile.

To everyone else: So how about a banbet? 1 month NV + SC if Hillary/Sanders win both (you know what I mean), if there's a split we'll sigbet-- I tell you something to add to yours, you add to mine for a month.


Hmmmmm sure I'll take that.

Worst case, a 1 month break from posting. I could probably do with that anyway ^.^


someone willing to put something on the line (btw, how much money did you lose on the Iowa bet GH?)

farva is excepted ofc, congrats on his engagement/relationship/life sentence


I'll predict Sanders takes NV and Clinton keeps SC.


i predict hillary to take both, which is why i'm willing to risk a monthlong bet on that

sigbet for the split then?
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 10 2016 03:49 GMT
#57491
On February 10 2016 12:43 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.

Bernie needs to show that he can win some other states before I'd put money on him winning the nomination. And he is hilariously unelectable at a national level.


One of our rare moments of agreement outside sports.

It's okay, we can be friends until the end of election season. Then we can go back to half-jokingly hostile.

To everyone else: So how about a banbet? 1 month NV + SC if Hillary/Sanders win both (you know what I mean), if there's a split we'll sigbet-- I tell you something to add to yours, you add to mine for a month.


Hmmmmm sure I'll take that.

Worst case, a 1 month break from posting. I could probably do with that anyway ^.^


someone willing to put something on the line (btw, how much money did you lose on the Iowa bet GH?)

farva is excepted ofc, congrats on his engagement/relationship/life sentence


Ha, I'm still happy to bet on the nomination if this blowout has given you knew hope? Nothing on Iowa, wouldn't want to remind people of that shadiness either if I was a Hillary supporter...

Bernie's margin of victory is bigger than Kasich's vote total haha.


its not giving me hope, i'm just going based on what i see. the only adjustment i've made is that polls underestimate bernie's turnout.

i'm trying to avoid arguing about that kind of stuff, but look, let's put it this way. both sides have supporters who are, to put it gently, overzealous. hillary has them and bernie has them. they both do and say things that arent proper. i wont cite any specific examples.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 10 2016 03:55 GMT
#57492
On February 10 2016 12:47 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.

Bernie needs to show that he can win some other states before I'd put money on him winning the nomination. And he is hilariously unelectable at a national level.


One of our rare moments of agreement outside sports.

It's okay, we can be friends until the end of election season. Then we can go back to half-jokingly hostile.

To everyone else: So how about a banbet? 1 month NV + SC if Hillary/Sanders win both (you know what I mean), if there's a split we'll sigbet-- I tell you something to add to yours, you add to mine for a month.


Hmmmmm sure I'll take that.

Worst case, a 1 month break from posting. I could probably do with that anyway ^.^


someone willing to put something on the line (btw, how much money did you lose on the Iowa bet GH?)

farva is excepted ofc, congrats on his engagement/relationship/life sentence


I'll predict Sanders takes NV and Clinton keeps SC.


i predict hillary to take both, which is why i'm willing to risk a monthlong bet on that

sigbet for the split then?


Yup!

On February 10 2016 12:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:43 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.

Bernie needs to show that he can win some other states before I'd put money on him winning the nomination. And he is hilariously unelectable at a national level.


One of our rare moments of agreement outside sports.

It's okay, we can be friends until the end of election season. Then we can go back to half-jokingly hostile.

To everyone else: So how about a banbet? 1 month NV + SC if Hillary/Sanders win both (you know what I mean), if there's a split we'll sigbet-- I tell you something to add to yours, you add to mine for a month.


Hmmmmm sure I'll take that.

Worst case, a 1 month break from posting. I could probably do with that anyway ^.^


someone willing to put something on the line (btw, how much money did you lose on the Iowa bet GH?)

farva is excepted ofc, congrats on his engagement/relationship/life sentence


Ha, I'm still happy to bet on the nomination if this blowout has given you knew hope? Nothing on Iowa, wouldn't want to remind people of that shadiness either if I was a Hillary supporter...

Bernie's margin of victory is bigger than Kasich's vote total haha.


its not giving me hope, i'm just going based on what i see. the only adjustment i've made is that polls underestimate bernie's turnout.

i'm trying to avoid arguing about that kind of stuff, but look, let's put it this way. both sides have supporters who are, to put it gently, overzealous. hillary has them and bernie has them. they both do and say things that arent proper. i wont cite any specific examples.


Bernie was in a similar position on Iowa one month beforehand. If things continue the way they are now, with more national exposure, and with Clinton campaign handling things questionably, I think there's a possibility (yes, very small) he could win both.

It's a weird political climate. Who knows! \o/
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 03:59:27
February 10 2016 03:56 GMT
#57493
I presume Kasich will be sending Christie a consolation cake from the cakeboss? Kasich owes his ability to run in 2020 to Christie.

On February 10 2016 12:49 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:43 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:38 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:32 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:23 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 10 2016 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
I hate to disrupt the circlejerk, but you so realize that Hillary is leading Nevada and South Carolina by 20 point margins... you can jigger that with turnout (which has been underestimated) and other things, but I'll take a month ban if Bernie wins both of them.

Bernie needs to show that he can win some other states before I'd put money on him winning the nomination. And he is hilariously unelectable at a national level.


One of our rare moments of agreement outside sports.

It's okay, we can be friends until the end of election season. Then we can go back to half-jokingly hostile.

To everyone else: So how about a banbet? 1 month NV + SC if Hillary/Sanders win both (you know what I mean), if there's a split we'll sigbet-- I tell you something to add to yours, you add to mine for a month.


Hmmmmm sure I'll take that.

Worst case, a 1 month break from posting. I could probably do with that anyway ^.^


someone willing to put something on the line (btw, how much money did you lose on the Iowa bet GH?)

farva is excepted ofc, congrats on his engagement/relationship/life sentence


Ha, I'm still happy to bet on the nomination if this blowout has given you knew hope? Nothing on Iowa, wouldn't want to remind people of that shadiness either if I was a Hillary supporter...

Bernie's margin of victory is bigger than Kasich's vote total haha.


its not giving me hope, i'm just going based on what i see. the only adjustment i've made is that polls underestimate bernie's turnout.

i'm trying to avoid arguing about that kind of stuff, but look, let's put it this way. both sides have supporters who are, to put it gently, overzealous. hillary has them and bernie has them. they both do and say things that arent proper. i wont cite any specific examples.



So that's still a no?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 04:00:20
February 10 2016 03:59 GMT
#57494
On February 10 2016 12:15 Deathstar wrote:
Can't stump the trump train is alive.

Get on board or get run over.

Polls seem to be a little more noisy than usual this year. Not sure what to make of it.

Nate Silver still actually doing a pretty good job though, all things considered.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 04:00:24
February 10 2016 03:59 GMT
#57495
Jeb Bush's speech sounds like he's not dropping out. He's more energized than ever lol
rip passion
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 04:03:19
February 10 2016 04:01 GMT
#57496
Just saying Bernie's donations are breaking the internet right now lol.


If one wanted to help break the internet they could do it here: https://go.berniesanders.com/page/content/contribute/
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4885 Posts
February 10 2016 04:12 GMT
#57497
Normally I hate it when people post tweets, but I can't find this info anywhere else.

https://mobile.twitter.com/sppeoples/status/697239337889562624

poor jeb.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
February 10 2016 04:13 GMT
#57498
Holy shit Sanders is fucking crushing Clinton right now. Better than he could have hoped for.

And LOL Rubio in 5th. Such a mess for the Republicans.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 04:18:06
February 10 2016 04:16 GMT
#57499
On February 10 2016 13:13 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Holy shit Sanders is fucking crushing Clinton right now. Better than he could have hoped for.

And LOL Rubio in 5th. Such a mess for the Republicans.



7 months ago it would be hard to find someone who said Bernie would make it to super Tuesday, looks like he's going there and beyond.

Same for Trump really.

Clearly this race isn't what people thought going into it.

Good news for conservatives is that no one even remembers Scott Walker ran so we'll see him in 2020 with Kasich
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 10 2016 04:17 GMT
#57500
On February 10 2016 13:12 Introvert wrote:
Normally I hate it when people post tweets, but I can't find this info anywhere else.

https://mobile.twitter.com/sppeoples/status/697239337889562624

poor jeb.

Jeb has always had the disproportionately larger spending in the race so far.

Truth is that he is an average candidate who is neither particularly impressive nor terrible, and his family legacy is one of the least popular in the entire country. The voters already decided against him well before his campaign was underway.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
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