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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23209 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 04:20:27
February 10 2016 04:19 GMT
#57501
On February 10 2016 13:17 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 13:12 Introvert wrote:
Normally I hate it when people post tweets, but I can't find this info anywhere else.

https://mobile.twitter.com/sppeoples/status/697239337889562624

poor jeb.

Jeb has always had the disproportionately larger spending in the race so far.

Truth is that he is an average candidate who is neither particularly impressive nor terrible, and his family legacy is one of the least popular in the entire country. The voters already decided against him well before his campaign was underway.


He's got his bro going to SC and can keep enough money to stay in the race till the end, he might end up being the anti-Trump as a matter of pure attrition. He would need to stop hemorrhaging it so fast though, spending like a liberal
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4744 Posts
February 10 2016 04:19 GMT
#57502
On February 10 2016 13:17 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 13:12 Introvert wrote:
Normally I hate it when people post tweets, but I can't find this info anywhere else.

https://mobile.twitter.com/sppeoples/status/697239337889562624

poor jeb.

Jeb has always had the disproportionately larger spending in the race so far.

Truth is that he is an average candidate who is neither particularly impressive nor terrible, and his family legacy is one of the least popular in the entire country. The voters already decided against him well before his campaign was underway.


It's still funny. I enjoy watching it. At least I did, I'm starting to feel bad at this point.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
February 10 2016 04:28 GMT
#57503
On February 10 2016 11:44 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 11:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
In the end, it will be Bernie Sanders vs The Don for the presidential seat.

The primary vision in Hillary's campaign is that she is a woman, you can fool girls who can't think for themselves but smart people will say "So what?".

Bernie Sanders' vision is to turn USA into a communism country. Donny's vision is to push capitalism to its apex.

Now it just depends on what Americans wants of their nation.


Next comes the proletariat revolution, I guess?
I really don't think what he is advocating is communist, as such. I also rarely hear what Donny's vision actually beyond it will be fantastic and I'll hire guys, you'll never heard of before. They'll be great, way better than the current guys.


Dude, Donny literally wrote a book on his plans as president....

I can't say the same for Mr Burn.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
February 10 2016 04:34 GMT
#57504
On February 10 2016 13:28 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 11:44 Falling wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
In the end, it will be Bernie Sanders vs The Don for the presidential seat.

The primary vision in Hillary's campaign is that she is a woman, you can fool girls who can't think for themselves but smart people will say "So what?".

Bernie Sanders' vision is to turn USA into a communism country. Donny's vision is to push capitalism to its apex.

Now it just depends on what Americans wants of their nation.


Next comes the proletariat revolution, I guess?
I really don't think what he is advocating is communist, as such. I also rarely hear what Donny's vision actually beyond it will be fantastic and I'll hire guys, you'll never heard of before. They'll be great, way better than the current guys.


Dude, Donny literally wrote a book on his plans as president....

I can't say the same for Mr Burn.


Trump changes positions more often than Clinton. Dude has no clue how to keep anything consistent and you can't trust anything he says.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
February 10 2016 04:35 GMT
#57505
Personally I think we need to build a fence on the border and Mexico will pay for it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
February 10 2016 04:41 GMT
#57506
On February 10 2016 13:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 13:28 ErectedZenith wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:44 Falling wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
In the end, it will be Bernie Sanders vs The Don for the presidential seat.

The primary vision in Hillary's campaign is that she is a woman, you can fool girls who can't think for themselves but smart people will say "So what?".

Bernie Sanders' vision is to turn USA into a communism country. Donny's vision is to push capitalism to its apex.

Now it just depends on what Americans wants of their nation.


Next comes the proletariat revolution, I guess?
I really don't think what he is advocating is communist, as such. I also rarely hear what Donny's vision actually beyond it will be fantastic and I'll hire guys, you'll never heard of before. They'll be great, way better than the current guys.


Dude, Donny literally wrote a book on his plans as president....

I can't say the same for Mr Burn.


Trump changes positions more often than Clinton. Dude has no clue how to keep anything consistent and you can't trust anything he says.


Have you listened to his interview with Oprah 15 years ago?

His POV literally is the same.

Quit it.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23209 Posts
February 10 2016 04:55 GMT
#57507
On February 10 2016 13:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 13:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On February 10 2016 13:28 ErectedZenith wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:44 Falling wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
In the end, it will be Bernie Sanders vs The Don for the presidential seat.

The primary vision in Hillary's campaign is that she is a woman, you can fool girls who can't think for themselves but smart people will say "So what?".

Bernie Sanders' vision is to turn USA into a communism country. Donny's vision is to push capitalism to its apex.

Now it just depends on what Americans wants of their nation.


Next comes the proletariat revolution, I guess?
I really don't think what he is advocating is communist, as such. I also rarely hear what Donny's vision actually beyond it will be fantastic and I'll hire guys, you'll never heard of before. They'll be great, way better than the current guys.


Dude, Donny literally wrote a book on his plans as president....

I can't say the same for Mr Burn.


Trump changes positions more often than Clinton. Dude has no clue how to keep anything consistent and you can't trust anything he says.


Have you listened to his interview with Oprah 15 years ago?

His POV literally is the same.

Quit it.

10.....10....10........10.............And..........+ Show Spoiler +
A 9.4 from the Russian Judge


Well to be fair he the racial/xenophobic stuff is pretty new. Even I would of been hesitant to read that into him before.

He constantly lies about the size of his crowds unprompted and plenty of other stuff. Not sure where telling people you're feeding them crap and then them buying it when you do falls on the deception meter.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 10 2016 04:58 GMT
#57508
Jeb's only shot at overtaking Cruz is probably Dover. It's the last major city precinct that hasn't reported in yet, but it potentially has enough votes to upend Cruz. That said, he's probably stuck behind Cruz.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15675 Posts
February 10 2016 05:01 GMT
#57509
Does Rubio have a chance at the top 4 at this point?
ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
February 10 2016 05:06 GMT
#57510
On February 10 2016 13:55 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 13:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
On February 10 2016 13:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On February 10 2016 13:28 ErectedZenith wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:44 Falling wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
In the end, it will be Bernie Sanders vs The Don for the presidential seat.

The primary vision in Hillary's campaign is that she is a woman, you can fool girls who can't think for themselves but smart people will say "So what?".

Bernie Sanders' vision is to turn USA into a communism country. Donny's vision is to push capitalism to its apex.

Now it just depends on what Americans wants of their nation.


Next comes the proletariat revolution, I guess?
I really don't think what he is advocating is communist, as such. I also rarely hear what Donny's vision actually beyond it will be fantastic and I'll hire guys, you'll never heard of before. They'll be great, way better than the current guys.


Dude, Donny literally wrote a book on his plans as president....

I can't say the same for Mr Burn.


Trump changes positions more often than Clinton. Dude has no clue how to keep anything consistent and you can't trust anything he says.


Have you listened to his interview with Oprah 15 years ago?

His POV literally is the same.

Quit it.

10.....10....10........10.............And..........+ Show Spoiler +
A 9.4 from the Russian Judge


Well to be fair he the racial/xenophobic stuff is pretty new. Even I would of been hesitant to read that into him before.

He constantly lies about the size of his crowds unprompted and plenty of other stuff. Not sure where telling people you're feeding them crap and then them buying it when you do falls on the deception meter.


Dude, there are PLENTY of shots of his crowds.

You are just jelly.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 05:14:42
February 10 2016 05:14 GMT
#57511
On February 10 2016 14:01 Mohdoo wrote:
Does Rubio have a chance at the top 4 at this point?


A very, very slim one. He's been locked at 10.4-10.5% as hundreds of precincts have reported in, and there are only 54 left to go.

The only saving grace for him is that his establishment opponents are on equally shaky ground. Kasich had a strong showing, but he doesn't have deep pockets and it's doubtful he can parlay this win into strong performances in Nevada and SC. Jeb has money but despite spending like crazy in NH he's still only fourth. Christie is almost certainly out.

It's essentially a three-way race between Jeb, Rubio, and Kasich for the establishment candidacy, and none of them seem to have the ability to close.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 10 2016 05:20 GMT
#57512
The Rubio camp is in a panic and should be. So should the Clinton camp as they didn't expect a loss to be that wide. Now she has to flip the script and hopes she doesn't look like a idiot doing so.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15675 Posts
February 10 2016 05:29 GMT
#57513
do they count all night? 83% done at 9:30 PM PST?
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 10 2016 05:33 GMT
#57514
On February 10 2016 12:34 oneofthem wrote:
bernie winning leading to a trump presidency would be hilarious

I could think of worse outcomes
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 05:36:46
February 10 2016 05:35 GMT
#57515
On February 10 2016 13:28 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 11:44 Falling wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
In the end, it will be Bernie Sanders vs The Don for the presidential seat.

The primary vision in Hillary's campaign is that she is a woman, you can fool girls who can't think for themselves but smart people will say "So what?".

Bernie Sanders' vision is to turn USA into a communism country. Donny's vision is to push capitalism to its apex.

Now it just depends on what Americans wants of their nation.


Next comes the proletariat revolution, I guess?
I really don't think what he is advocating is communist, as such. I also rarely hear what Donny's vision actually beyond it will be fantastic and I'll hire guys, you'll never heard of before. They'll be great, way better than the current guys.


Dude, Donny literally wrote a book on his plans as president....

I can't say the same for Mr Burn.


I'm THE Dude. Or, uh, His Dudeness, Duder, El Duderino, if you're not into the whole brevity thing...

But I can't say I've ever bought any politician's hagiography, even the Canadian ones: Common Ground or Strength of Conviction. Now granted, having never read any, maybe they are better than all that. But I would think it would behoove the candidate to make their policy pitches in more than just the book, else what's the purpose of all those speeches and debates? I will give him this, he seems to be very consistent on wanting tariffs, going back to that 88 interview. I am actually curious on whether how it would work, considering how long Free Trade or Bust has gone on. Could you protect American industries without getting caught in a tariff war? An interesting experiment in the modern era for sure.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
February 10 2016 05:38 GMT
#57516
On February 10 2016 13:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 13:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On February 10 2016 13:28 ErectedZenith wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:44 Falling wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
In the end, it will be Bernie Sanders vs The Don for the presidential seat.

The primary vision in Hillary's campaign is that she is a woman, you can fool girls who can't think for themselves but smart people will say "So what?".

Bernie Sanders' vision is to turn USA into a communism country. Donny's vision is to push capitalism to its apex.

Now it just depends on what Americans wants of their nation.


Next comes the proletariat revolution, I guess?
I really don't think what he is advocating is communist, as such. I also rarely hear what Donny's vision actually beyond it will be fantastic and I'll hire guys, you'll never heard of before. They'll be great, way better than the current guys.


Dude, Donny literally wrote a book on his plans as president....

I can't say the same for Mr Burn.


Trump changes positions more often than Clinton. Dude has no clue how to keep anything consistent and you can't trust anything he says.


Have you listened to his interview with Oprah 15 years ago?

His POV literally is the same.

Quit it.


Abortion. The guy totally flipped within the last two years.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5567 Posts
February 10 2016 05:51 GMT
#57517
On February 10 2016 14:38 JW_DTLA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 13:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
On February 10 2016 13:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On February 10 2016 13:28 ErectedZenith wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:44 Falling wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
In the end, it will be Bernie Sanders vs The Don for the presidential seat.

The primary vision in Hillary's campaign is that she is a woman, you can fool girls who can't think for themselves but smart people will say "So what?".

Bernie Sanders' vision is to turn USA into a communism country. Donny's vision is to push capitalism to its apex.

Now it just depends on what Americans wants of their nation.


Next comes the proletariat revolution, I guess?
I really don't think what he is advocating is communist, as such. I also rarely hear what Donny's vision actually beyond it will be fantastic and I'll hire guys, you'll never heard of before. They'll be great, way better than the current guys.


Dude, Donny literally wrote a book on his plans as president....

I can't say the same for Mr Burn.


Trump changes positions more often than Clinton. Dude has no clue how to keep anything consistent and you can't trust anything he says.


Have you listened to his interview with Oprah 15 years ago?

His POV literally is the same.

Quit it.


Abortion. The guy totally flipped within the last two years.

You can't run a Republican presidential campaign without saying you're "pro-life" when asked; suffice it to say that's not a big issue for his campaign, and it has little risk of translating into policy with Roe v. Wade.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
February 10 2016 05:51 GMT
#57518
On February 10 2016 14:38 JW_DTLA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 13:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
On February 10 2016 13:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On February 10 2016 13:28 ErectedZenith wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:44 Falling wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:41 ErectedZenith wrote:
In the end, it will be Bernie Sanders vs The Don for the presidential seat.

The primary vision in Hillary's campaign is that she is a woman, you can fool girls who can't think for themselves but smart people will say "So what?".

Bernie Sanders' vision is to turn USA into a communism country. Donny's vision is to push capitalism to its apex.

Now it just depends on what Americans wants of their nation.


Next comes the proletariat revolution, I guess?
I really don't think what he is advocating is communist, as such. I also rarely hear what Donny's vision actually beyond it will be fantastic and I'll hire guys, you'll never heard of before. They'll be great, way better than the current guys.


Dude, Donny literally wrote a book on his plans as president....

I can't say the same for Mr Burn.


Trump changes positions more often than Clinton. Dude has no clue how to keep anything consistent and you can't trust anything he says.


Have you listened to his interview with Oprah 15 years ago?

His POV literally is the same.

Quit it.


Abortion. The guy totally flipped within the last two years.


And he is respected for that.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 10 2016 06:06 GMT
#57519
Christie about to drop out by the looks of it.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23209 Posts
February 10 2016 06:17 GMT
#57520
Here's what should scare Democratic voters supporting Hillary thinking she's the better candidate in the general.

Hillary may end up with less votes than Donald Trump in NH
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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