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WASHINGTON – Global warming and clean energy should be priorities for Congress and the president, a majority of Americans said in a recent survey.
In the survey, released Tuesday by Yale and George Mason universities, 70% of American adults say global warming should be a priority for the nation’s leaders, while 87% say leaders should make it a priority to develop sources of clean energy. Those support levels have dropped by 7% and 5% respectively since fall.
Six in 10 Americans want the U.S. to reduce greenhouse gas emissions regardless of other countries’ emissions efforts, according to the survey. Only 6% say the U.S. should not reduce its greenhouse emissions.
The study also shows only half of Americans have heard of the Keystone XL pipeline. Among those who have heard of the pipeline, 63% support the project. The study also shows 58% of Americans support expanded drilling for oil and natural gas off the U.S. coast.
A majority of Americans supports policies like taxing carbon, giving tax rebates to people who purchase energy-efficient vehicles or solar panels, and funding renewable-energy research, the survey shows.
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On May 22 2013 19:47 Roe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 07:18 SayGen wrote:
They don't call Obama the drone king for nothing.
I actually prefer it this way. Don't put US troops in harms way to neutralize/mitigate/eliminate the enemies of the Red White and Blue.
I'd proud to have been part of drone logistical movements in my soon to be ending Air Force career.
Regardless of who takes the political backlash, it is imperative that US maintain the uncontested world military supremacy. Under US leadership there hasn't been a major war (Vietnam wasn't a war, and Korea was more of a show of power/police action) since we became a superpower. I don't know, I guess I'd consider the Iraq/Iran war a pretty big one...
Not really. Though I suppose it depends on how you define war, or more to the point 'real war'
Is 'real war' total war- IE: Rations become law--free market is suspended till conflict is over.
Does a real war mean a draft occurred?
Imho a real war is one that is fought until a side is able to declare uncontested victory, in a manner in which only one side can make said claim. (IE: No win/win scenarios)
Also more people died in automobile accidents in the same time span as the Iraq war. War on cars? Don't think so.
It doesn't help the conversion that people use the word war wrong.
IE: "Culture war" Fox news claiming a War on Christmas. ABC's War on Women.
When people realize how insignificant the conflicts fought since WWII are- it is clear that loss of life, and human progression are on the up and up since America assumed an uncontested world power status.
Gotta look at the big picture, humans on the macro scale-- and then you may see where I'm coming from.
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Sadly most Americans wouldn't consider that source material- though uncut video feed is hard to dispute.
Aljazeera doesn't abide by the journalist code of ethics.
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what just happened?
EDIT: Oh a heckler.
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On May 24 2013 03:50 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
what just happened?
EDIT: Oh a heckler.
heckling ma'am.
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Hahah that was hilarious.
FREE SPEECH, MA'AM. YOU SHUT UP.
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You got to hand it to Obama he knows how to handle hecklers.
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On May 24 2013 03:47 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 19:47 Roe wrote:On May 22 2013 07:18 SayGen wrote:
They don't call Obama the drone king for nothing.
I actually prefer it this way. Don't put US troops in harms way to neutralize/mitigate/eliminate the enemies of the Red White and Blue.
I'd proud to have been part of drone logistical movements in my soon to be ending Air Force career.
Regardless of who takes the political backlash, it is imperative that US maintain the uncontested world military supremacy. Under US leadership there hasn't been a major war (Vietnam wasn't a war, and Korea was more of a show of power/police action) since we became a superpower. I don't know, I guess I'd consider the Iraq/Iran war a pretty big one... Not really. Though I suppose it depends on how you define war, or more to the point 'real war' Is 'real war' total war- IE: Rations become law--free market is suspended till conflict is over. Does a real war mean a draft occurred? Imho a real war is one that is fought until a side is able to declare uncontested victory, in a manner in which only one side can make said claim. (IE: No win/win scenarios) Also more people died in automobile accidents in the same time span as the Iraq war. War on cars? Don't think so. It doesn't help the conversion that people use the word war wrong. IE: "Culture war" Fox news claiming a War on Christmas. ABC's War on Women. When people realize how insignificant the conflicts fought since WWII are- it is clear that loss of life, and human progression are on the up and up since America assumed an uncontested world power status. Gotta look at the big picture, humans on the macro scale-- and then you may see where I'm coming from.
Maybe you can learn the difference between causation and accidental correlation ?
I can play this game also, number violent deaths went drastically down when Britain was world-spanning Empire and Europe governed nearly whole world. Or even more ridiculous. Number of deaths from diseases went down in the same time-period once again showing that we need Europe to become violent imperial power once again.
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On May 24 2013 03:53 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
You got to hand it to Obama he knows how to handle hecklers.
wonder if he's a good of a shoe dodger as bush was though.
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
I wish I could hear her better omg. =_=
And LOL @ off-script.
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On May 23 2013 08:09 DeltaX wrote:
Your 5th amendment rights, like other rights, do not come and go, you always have them. That means you can, at any time, exercise them. Just because she did not exercise the right to remain silent at the start of the hearing, does not magically mean that she can be forced under penalty to answer any other question you may ask.
Perfectly said. Sadly we've allowed American to be run by lawyers and bureaucrats who will try to side step our rights any time they become inconvenient- till they protect them, than it is of course a travesty to take them away...
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On May 24 2013 03:54 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2013 03:47 SayGen wrote:On May 22 2013 19:47 Roe wrote:On May 22 2013 07:18 SayGen wrote:
They don't call Obama the drone king for nothing.
I actually prefer it this way. Don't put US troops in harms way to neutralize/mitigate/eliminate the enemies of the Red White and Blue.
I'd proud to have been part of drone logistical movements in my soon to be ending Air Force career.
Regardless of who takes the political backlash, it is imperative that US maintain the uncontested world military supremacy. Under US leadership there hasn't been a major war (Vietnam wasn't a war, and Korea was more of a show of power/police action) since we became a superpower. I don't know, I guess I'd consider the Iraq/Iran war a pretty big one... Not really. Though I suppose it depends on how you define war, or more to the point 'real war' Is 'real war' total war- IE: Rations become law--free market is suspended till conflict is over. Does a real war mean a draft occurred? Imho a real war is one that is fought until a side is able to declare uncontested victory, in a manner in which only one side can make said claim. (IE: No win/win scenarios) Also more people died in automobile accidents in the same time span as the Iraq war. War on cars? Don't think so. It doesn't help the conversion that people use the word war wrong. IE: "Culture war" Fox news claiming a War on Christmas. ABC's War on Women. When people realize how insignificant the conflicts fought since WWII are- it is clear that loss of life, and human progression are on the up and up since America assumed an uncontested world power status. Gotta look at the big picture, humans on the macro scale-- and then you may see where I'm coming from. Maybe you can learn the difference between causation and accidental correlation ? I can play this game also, number violent deaths went drastically down when Britain was world-spanning Empire and Europe governed nearly whole world. Or even more ridiculous. Number of deaths from diseases went down in the same time-period once again showing that we need Europe to become violent imperial power once again.
Problem is simple:
You see 'accidential correlation'
I see 'correlation'.
Nothing more to say.
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On May 24 2013 03:59 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2013 03:54 mcc wrote:On May 24 2013 03:47 SayGen wrote:On May 22 2013 19:47 Roe wrote:On May 22 2013 07:18 SayGen wrote:
They don't call Obama the drone king for nothing.
I actually prefer it this way. Don't put US troops in harms way to neutralize/mitigate/eliminate the enemies of the Red White and Blue.
I'd proud to have been part of drone logistical movements in my soon to be ending Air Force career.
Regardless of who takes the political backlash, it is imperative that US maintain the uncontested world military supremacy. Under US leadership there hasn't been a major war (Vietnam wasn't a war, and Korea was more of a show of power/police action) since we became a superpower. I don't know, I guess I'd consider the Iraq/Iran war a pretty big one... Not really. Though I suppose it depends on how you define war, or more to the point 'real war' Is 'real war' total war- IE: Rations become law--free market is suspended till conflict is over. Does a real war mean a draft occurred? Imho a real war is one that is fought until a side is able to declare uncontested victory, in a manner in which only one side can make said claim. (IE: No win/win scenarios) Also more people died in automobile accidents in the same time span as the Iraq war. War on cars? Don't think so. It doesn't help the conversion that people use the word war wrong. IE: "Culture war" Fox news claiming a War on Christmas. ABC's War on Women. When people realize how insignificant the conflicts fought since WWII are- it is clear that loss of life, and human progression are on the up and up since America assumed an uncontested world power status. Gotta look at the big picture, humans on the macro scale-- and then you may see where I'm coming from. Maybe you can learn the difference between causation and accidental correlation ? I can play this game also, number violent deaths went drastically down when Britain was world-spanning Empire and Europe governed nearly whole world. Or even more ridiculous. Number of deaths from diseases went down in the same time-period once again showing that we need Europe to become violent imperial power once again. Problem is simple: You see 'accidential correlation' I see 'correlation'. Nothing more to say.
oh boy... nothing more to say indeed.
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Pax Americana exists. The American military acts as a very strong deterrent for a great power war, everyone already knows which side will win and that makes people not want to try.
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Of course it was Medea Benjamin who else would it be.
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On May 24 2013 03:47 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 19:47 Roe wrote:On May 22 2013 07:18 SayGen wrote:
They don't call Obama the drone king for nothing.
I actually prefer it this way. Don't put US troops in harms way to neutralize/mitigate/eliminate the enemies of the Red White and Blue.
I'd proud to have been part of drone logistical movements in my soon to be ending Air Force career.
Regardless of who takes the political backlash, it is imperative that US maintain the uncontested world military supremacy. Under US leadership there hasn't been a major war (Vietnam wasn't a war, and Korea was more of a show of power/police action) since we became a superpower. I don't know, I guess I'd consider the Iraq/Iran war a pretty big one... When people realize how insignificant the conflicts fought since WWII are- it is clear that loss of life, and human progression are on the up and up since America assumed an uncontested world power status. Gotta look at the big picture, humans on the macro scale-- and then you may see where I'm coming from.
Armed conflicts do not have to be of the scope of WWII to qualify as wars. To assert that the Korean War and the Vietnam War were not wars is beyond ridiculous.
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Is it America as a world police that stops wars on massive scales from happening or the fact that every major power in the world now has nukes?
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Anyone make out what the heckler was yelling at Obama in his speech?
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On May 24 2013 04:12 paralleluniverse wrote:
Anyone make out what the heckler was yelling at Obama in his speech?
I think it was someone from code pink, the anti war ladies.
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