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Scalia is way more conservative than the others so I'm not surprised. Same with Thomas.
I've not read the dissenters in full but looking at how it's been summarised....
http://www.nationaljournal.com/domesticpolicy/marriage-same-sex-gay-supreme-court-dissent-20150626
I don't like how Roberts says the court's stolen this issue from the people (assuming that's not misrepresented in this article)
I was pretty sure public opinion for this was a majority, not a vast majority but a majority and even then I don't know how it's relevant if the five who ruled in favour had to have done so on some legal basis anyways.
Meh I'm rambling. Guess I'll read in full since I'm curious...
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I love how "government overreach" or "stolen the issue from the people" always comes up when someone knows exactly that they can't bring a single rational argument forward that would convince anybody.
Fundamental equality rights are not supposed to be up for voting, they're categorical rights. If marriage equality doesn't fall into that category I don't know what does.
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I'm reading through the dissenting opinions and I just had to point out this line and dedicate it to Danglars. One love, homie.
"The opinion is couched in a style that is as pretentious as its content is egotistic." Obergefell v. Hodges, 576 U.S.___ (2015) (slip copy, *7) (J., Scalia, dissenting).
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On June 27 2015 00:49 Nyxisto wrote:
I love how "government overreach" or "stolen the issue from the people" always comes up when someone knows exactly that they can't bring a single rational argument forward that would convince anybody.
Fundamental equality rights are not supposed to be up for voting, they're categorical rights. If marriage equality doesn't fall into that category I don't know what does.
well yes, that was the gist of the majority opinion, but the dissenters have to write something to justify themselves.
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And if you notice in the dissent Scalia hints that he opposes interracial marriage as well.
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On June 27 2015 01:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
And if you notice in the dissent Scalia hints that he opposes interracial marriage as well.
Which quote was that, I only saw,
"If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began: 'The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,' I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie."
- Scalia
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On June 27 2015 01:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
And if you notice in the dissent Scalia hints that he opposes interracial marriage as well.
Lets not act shocked since his options on other civil rights issues have been equally enlightened.
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I've thought Scalia was a walking shit stain for a while now, this doesn't help to change that opinion.
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Oh god lol Fox news is now questioning the "legitimacy" of the Supreme Court.
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On June 27 2015 01:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Oh god lol Fox news is now questioning the "legitimacy" of the Supreme Court.
This isn't new though. If Jesus himself was a guest on Fox News, and then pulled some enlightened socialist "help the poor" crap, they'd literally hire a new Jesus. Preferably one with white skin, blonde hair, blue eyes, and nice legs.
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On June 27 2015 00:39 Half the Sky wrote:Scalia is way more conservative than the others so I'm not surprised. Same with Thomas. I've not read the dissenters in full but looking at how it's been summarised.... http://www.nationaljournal.com/domesticpolicy/marriage-same-sex-gay-supreme-court-dissent-20150626I don't like how Roberts says the court's stolen this issue from the people (assuming that's not misrepresented in this article) I was pretty sure public opinion for this was a majority, not a vast majority but a majority and even then I don't know how it's relevant if the five who ruled in favour had to have done so on some legal basis anyways. Meh I'm rambling. Guess I'll read in full since I'm curious...
Not only this, it's complete bullshit.
Equality isn't a up to popular opinion. One of the primary jobs of both Congress and the Court is to holy the tyranny of the majority in check and protect minorities from it.
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Please secede.
Please secede.
Please secede.
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Top 3 Saltiest Things, as of today:
#3. Dead Sea- Called the Sea of Salt
#2. NaCl- Literally table salt
#1- Republicans- because of the Supreme Court's ruling on gay marriage
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hahahahahahahaha, times like these I am happy I live in Minnesota. We seem that much more sane by comparison.
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On June 27 2015 01:23 ThomasjServo wrote:hahahahahahahaha, times like these I am happy I live in Minnesota. We seem that much more sane by comparison.
Fuck yea. Thank God we live up here. We have some people who are annoyingly conservative, but even the conservatives in our politics aren't batshit-crazy Southern conservatives.
Conservatives like that Texas AG are just pathetic and childish.
"Waaaah! They didn't rule they way I wanted them to! I'm going to ignore them and throw a temper tantrum!"
Typical conservative hypocrisy. "We need to be a society that follows the rule of law...until that law goes against what I want".
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