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puerk
Germany855 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24504 Posts
On May 22 2015 04:28 puerk wrote: Wait there will be more than 10 official registered and filed for candidates just in the republican primary? Actually a LOT more than that. But yeah there will be about 15 that are getting more than 1% nationally. | ||
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Adila
United States874 Posts
So has the birther case against Ted Cruz been established yet? | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
And then there's people who're mostly about bringing up their profile for future campaigns, trying to get some support to change party platform, or aiming for cabinet positions. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On May 22 2015 04:54 Adila wrote: Not that those ever had a shot, but who cares! The left's been kinda overdoing it. Obama's fringe birther wackos were deservingly marginalized, but their kook mates on the opposite side of the spectrum think it's the joke that keeps on going."Must meet all constitutional requirements"... So has the birther case against Ted Cruz been established yet? | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24504 Posts
On May 22 2015 05:41 Danglars wrote: Not that those ever had a shot, but who cares! The left's been kinda overdoing it. Obama's fringe birther wackos were deservingly marginalized, but their kook mates on the opposite side of the spectrum think it's the joke that keeps on going. What's the most the GOP has ever been reported for believing Obama was born in the US/is a US Citizen? I don't think it even ever got over 50%? You don't get to write off the half of the party that isn't sure whether he was born in the US as 'fringe'...They could just as easily say the people who are sure he was born in the US within the GOP are the 'fringe' | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
Pretty stupid. If you want a wage that you can support a family on then dont work at fucking mcdonalds. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 22 2015 08:51 Aveng3r wrote: Seems to be some kind of rally petitioning McDonald's to pay their workers more Pretty stupid. If you want a wage that you can support a family on then dont work at fucking mcdonalds. not sure if you can just support yourself while working on mcdonalds without some form of gov't assistance. | ||
KwarK
United States44439 Posts
On May 22 2015 08:51 Aveng3r wrote: Seems to be some kind of rally petitioning McDonald's to pay their workers more Pretty stupid. If you want a wage that you can support a family on then dont work at fucking mcdonalds. Why don't the poor just buy more money? | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24504 Posts
On May 22 2015 08:51 Aveng3r wrote: Seems to be some kind of rally petitioning McDonald's to pay their workers more Pretty stupid. If you want a wage that you can support a family on then dont work at fucking mcdonalds. Yeah! Why should you make a living wage just because you work, right?!? /sigh | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On May 22 2015 09:46 Aveng3r wrote: I haven't understood any of your responses I think they are chastising your lack of empathy for your fellow man, the fact that you don't understand them kinda helps their point. | ||
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farvacola
United States18875 Posts
On May 22 2015 08:51 Aveng3r wrote: Seems to be some kind of rally petitioning McDonald's to pay their workers more Pretty stupid. If you want a wage that you can support a family on then dont work at fucking mcdonalds. The point is that, because of economic and/or personal circumstances, many people are forced to attempt to support a family while working at McDonalds, and therein lies the problem. Job availability and standard hiring practices among many of the "borderline" living wage jobs are not so good for many of those looking to support a family without a college education, usually with poor family planning and financial sense menacing in the background as well. That's how these folks end up at McDonalds and Dollar General, trying to patch together sub 10 dollar hourly wages in order to meet basic living costs. | ||
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On May 22 2015 10:05 farvacola wrote: The point is that, because of economic and/or personal circumstances, many people are forced to attempt to support a family while working at McDonalds, and therein lies the problem. Job availability and standard hiring practices among many of the "borderline" living wage jobs are not so good for many of those looking to support a family without a college education, usually with poor family planning and financial sense menacing in the background as well. That's how these folks end up at McDonalds and Dollar General, trying to patch together sub 10 dollar hourly wages in order to meet basic living costs. now what you just said makes sense. but what I don't get is why everyone else in here now wants to place the burden on mcdonalds to compensate for its workforces poor decisions. Like mcdonalds is a corporation that relies on cheap labor to drive their whole business model, why should they be forced to increase the wages they pay because of its workforces poor life decisions? I feel for the guy that works at mcdonalds trying to support a family, but it's his fault if he lk had a kid or whatever without the wherewithal to support it. Everyone can also stand to be a little less condescending in here, thanks. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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Livelovedie
United States492 Posts
On May 22 2015 10:22 Aveng3r wrote: now what you just said makes sense. but what I don't get is why everyone else in here now wants to place the burden on mcdonalds to compensate for its workforces poor decisions. Like mcdonalds is a corporation that relies on cheap labor to drive their whole business model, why should they be forced to increase the wages they pay because of its workforces poor life decisions? I feel for the guy that works at mcdonalds trying to support a family, but it's his fault if he lk had a kid or whatever without the wherewithal to support it. Everyone can also stand to be a little less condescending in here, thanks. Because McDonald's can afford to do so and if they don't the taxpayer winds up paying for "McDonald's business model." | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On May 22 2015 10:26 Livelovedie wrote: Because McDonald's can afford to do so and if they don't the taxpayer winds up paying for "McDonald's business model." I doubt that they can afford to pay much more in wages. They haven't been doing so hot recently. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24504 Posts
On May 22 2015 10:20 zlefin wrote: Whether federal minimum wage is enough to support yourself (certainly not anyone other than yourself) with a 40-hour workweek would depend on the location, due to cost of living variation. In many major cities it would not be enough. It takes 2-3 40hr weeks on federal minimum wage in most places (let alone a major city) just to pay rent and basic utilities on an apartment. 2 40hr Weeks @ $7.25 is $580 before they take anything out. If you're under 20 they can actually pay you $4.25 an hour for your first 90 days ($340 for 80 hrs of work). On May 22 2015 10:22 Aveng3r wrote: now what you just said makes sense. but what I don't get is why everyone else in here now wants to place the burden on mcdonalds to compensate for its workforces poor decisions. Like mcdonalds is a corporation that relies on cheap labor to drive their whole business model, why should they be forced to increase the wages they pay because of its workforces poor life decisions? I feel for the guy that works at mcdonalds trying to support a family, but it's his fault if he lk had a kid or whatever without the wherewithal to support it. Everyone can also stand to be a little less condescending in here, thanks. lol you opened with people wanting a living wage is stupid, little late to get indignant about people being condescending. You make it sound like McDonalds doesn't manipulate those people to make them think there is a future at McDonalds too. + Show Spoiler + Grow With Us McDonald’s gives you the tools you need to succeed, whether it’s the chance to own your own restaurant or tackle the corporate ladder. To be the best company we can, we have to offer the best opportunities, and we’d like to believe that some of the best ones around are right here. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wxUx6k6.jpg) I think I missed the part where they said if you keep working here people will call you stupid if you want a living wage. | ||
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