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On November 20 2012 04:17 alpha01 wrote: Hey Guys,im a Platinum Terran from Germany.I Play SC2 since 1 Year now(with a short break of 4 months)and i have a huge Problem.
I don`t know why,but I am scared to press the Find Match button.I didnt had this in the beginning of my sc2 career,but as i got better and higher,I got more Scared.I dont know if that is just a problem of me,or if other people also have this kind of Feeling.
I really dont have a Problem to jump in a Custom Game,play and lose.If i lose in a Ladder Match,and see that i fall down in the ladder ranking,i just dont want to play sc2 anymore,and i take a break for 2 days or so,which means i barely play 5 games per week.
I`m excited to hear your answers
You're experiencing anxiety from loss aversion. When you are at the bottom of the ladder, you are playing only to move up. You have nothing to lose. Once you reach a rank that you are proud of, you are afraid that you are going to drop. The incentive to increase your rank is less than the incentive to just stay where you are.
You need to realize that this is dumb. Ranks do not matter. They are a byproduct. The only thing that matters is that you are getting better and getting reference experiences. When you press find match, you're not trying to win the most games in the shortest period. Instead, you are trying to get these reference experiences so that you continue to grow as a player.
Bottom line - man up.
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Not to sound rude or anything. But, if fictitious ladder points is what is keeping you up at night, I believe there is a more serious issue at hand.
Points to Remember: 1) If you suck you suck, no matter what rank your account say. So just play the game. If you like how how playing makes your feel, you do it, regardless of how bad you are. Practice makes perfect.
EDIT: Decided to give "anxiety" a quick TL search
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=anxiety
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Honestly man, just say fuck it. Once you realize that you are playing a game and it's no big deal you will get better.
It's like Sgt. Spears says in Band of Brothers when he is asked why he isn't scared. He replies with "Once you realize you are already dead, you have nothing to fear".
Also, remember what White-Ra says - "More GG, more skill.".
Just chill and click the button.
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I am ladder rank 100 in bronze and I played against a golden opponent in the first game I played, like WTF? I played protoss against a zerg and he made some kind of stephano 3-base roach rush and first time i experienced it, ffssss
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Get over yourself and keep queueing; i never quite understood ladder anxiety myself.. Im top masters since season1, dont know if that could be why but i have had 10 + losses streaks. And for me, its the opposite; the more i lose, the more i get angry and queue faster over and over again. If i win 7-8 in a row im like satisfied and stop playing lol.
For me, the more i lose the more i play, because when i lose i know that i did not play up to my standards and can do much much better, so i keep queuing..
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On November 20 2012 05:39 VPC wrote: Honestly man, just say fuck it. Once you realize that you are playing a game and it's no big deal you will get better.
It's like Sgt. Spears says in Band of Brothers when he is asked why he isn't scared. He replies with "Once you realize you are already dead, you have nothing to fear".
Also, remember what White-Ra says - "More GG, more skill.".
Just chill and click the button.
wrong attitude. If one adopts this mentality one loses interest in the game.
Obviously the point is to identify your ingame strenght and weakness's. Focus on them. Evalute them game after game. See where you improve and have a goal for improving, rather than having a goal for being rank x.
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I think the main issue with Ladder Anxiety isn't the 'ranking' part (though that definitely helps), it's the 1vs1 aspect of SC2. There are other games that focus on 1vs1 (fighting games, shooters, puzzle games whatever) but somehow none of them are anywhere near as intense as SC2.
Usually, what I do to deal with Ladder Anxiety is just press the button - because I want to play SC2 dammit. I fool myself to think 'I'll just press the button and then not play' or something like that if needed, bu after I press the button the ladder anxiety disspates completely and I'm free to just...play the game. As many games as I want (until I get too big a losign streak )
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To be honest, i play other games first ( lately i have been playing WarZ or CS:GO) which those 2 games, you can't make it out without dying = losing. When i come back to play a few ladders i am like you know what it's like a killed round, just come back stronger and kill/wins more games.
Sorry for my poor language I ARE FRENCH !!!!!!
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On November 20 2012 05:49 Snake.69 wrote: Get over yourself and keep queueing; i never quite understood ladder anxiety myself.. Im top masters since season1, dont know if that could be why but i have had 10 + losses streaks. And for me, its the opposite; the more i lose, the more i get angry and queue faster over and over again. If i win 7-8 in a row im like satisfied and stop playing lol.
For me, the more i lose the more i play, because when i lose i know that i did not play up to my standards and can do much much better, so i keep queuing..
This is actually a normal consequence of ladder anxiety. After a won game (with ladder anxiety) you feel like you ahve a lot to lose and little to win. Hnece you don't play. However, after a lost game you have nothing to lsoe, and you wan't to "win" by playing another game which you hopefully win.
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On November 20 2012 05:52 hooahah wrote:I think the main issue with Ladder Anxiety isn't the 'ranking' part (though that definitely helps), it's the 1vs1 aspect of SC2. There are other games that focus on 1vs1 (fighting games, shooters, puzzle games whatever) but somehow none of them are anywhere near as intense as SC2. Usually, what I do to deal with Ladder Anxiety is just press the button - because I want to play SC2 dammit. I fool myself to think 'I'll just press the button and then not play' or something like that if needed, bu after I press the button the ladder anxiety disspates completely and I'm free to just...play the game. As many games as I want (until I get too big a losign streak )
This is easily disproven by the fact that most people with ladder anxiety prefers to play custom 1on1. A lot of people (including my self - I used to do that at least) are lying to them selves by saying that they prefer playing customs because it allows them to improve their builds. Like they need to work on timings etc. Often they will not admit that they are playing custom 1on1's because they fear losing point.
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On November 20 2012 05:57 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 05:52 hooahah wrote:I think the main issue with Ladder Anxiety isn't the 'ranking' part (though that definitely helps), it's the 1vs1 aspect of SC2. There are other games that focus on 1vs1 (fighting games, shooters, puzzle games whatever) but somehow none of them are anywhere near as intense as SC2. Usually, what I do to deal with Ladder Anxiety is just press the button - because I want to play SC2 dammit. I fool myself to think 'I'll just press the button and then not play' or something like that if needed, bu after I press the button the ladder anxiety disspates completely and I'm free to just...play the game. As many games as I want (until I get too big a losign streak ) This is easily disproven by the fact that most people with ladder anxiety prefers to play custom 1on1. A lot of people (including my self - I used to do that at least) are lying to them selves by saying that they prefer playing customs because it allows them to improve their builds. Like they need to work on timings etc. Often they will not admit that they are playing custom 1on1's because they fear losing point.
yeah, thinking about it Rank is definitely an important part - however I think the reason people don't find Custom games stressful is because they regard them as 'freebies' - so when they lose, it doesn't actually mean anything. It doesn't mean that they lost. "that game doesn't really count"
the reason I think it's mostly 1vs1 that stresses people out is that no one has Ladder Anxiety in DOTA-esque games despite them having MMR as well (though not quite as visible or 'important' as in SC2)
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On November 20 2012 06:03 hooahah wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 05:57 Hider wrote:On November 20 2012 05:52 hooahah wrote:I think the main issue with Ladder Anxiety isn't the 'ranking' part (though that definitely helps), it's the 1vs1 aspect of SC2. There are other games that focus on 1vs1 (fighting games, shooters, puzzle games whatever) but somehow none of them are anywhere near as intense as SC2. Usually, what I do to deal with Ladder Anxiety is just press the button - because I want to play SC2 dammit. I fool myself to think 'I'll just press the button and then not play' or something like that if needed, bu after I press the button the ladder anxiety disspates completely and I'm free to just...play the game. As many games as I want (until I get too big a losign streak ) This is easily disproven by the fact that most people with ladder anxiety prefers to play custom 1on1. A lot of people (including my self - I used to do that at least) are lying to them selves by saying that they prefer playing customs because it allows them to improve their builds. Like they need to work on timings etc. Often they will not admit that they are playing custom 1on1's because they fear losing point. yeah, thinking about it Rank is definitely an important part - however I think the reason people don't find Custom games stressful is because they regard them as 'freebies' - so when they lose, it doesn't actually mean anything. It doesn't mean that they lost. "that game doesn't really count" the reason I think it's mostly 1vs1 that stresses people out is that no one has Ladder Anxiety in DOTA-esque games despite them having MMR as well (though not quite as visible or 'important' as in SC2)
Oh yeh, I kinda misunderstood you. It's obviously about getting your specific results measured. Getting your teams results measured is not the same thing.
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This has been discussed plenty of times before.
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