i would really wonder if he would have known it. Even if i could say that i am not a Freezers friend, i feel sry now for him, i hope you guys learned that korean semipro or pro like the game, maybe like you and your team, but mostly like themself more or they never would have played arround that shit with "his oh so loved team", he even did 2 times, he knew what will happen so i would say he gives a shit on oG, on rules and on nonkorean community since he still thought "we" are way to newb and to stupid to find out. Ppl like this i never would call a friend and teammate. I bet the rest of your playing korean knew it. For me Sea lost all the respect as korean guild for pissing on community and letting oG down.

distant_voice

Germany2521 Posts

February 27 2006 21:37 GMT

#322

Freezer deserves the blame? First and foremost it's Jang who cheated. Freezer can't act like a parent for someone he only knows over the internet. Jang should be banned from everything oG and SCCL. Freezer may be naive, but I wouldn't want to replace my best player just based on the assumption that someone else is on his account. What if he had replaced Jang and the replacement had lost? Everyone would be like "Freezer = paranoid = bad manager! omfgbbq".

TreK

Sweden2089 Posts

February 27 2006 21:44 GMT

#323

funny comments on the og-site in the news about oG winning vs ToT), ALL TOT ARE DICKS!... or?

asla

Japan354 Posts

February 27 2006 21:51 GMT

#324

nvm

{ToT}Strafe

Thailand7026 Posts

February 27 2006 22:05 GMT

#325

Freezer should be banned for hiring sea and being naive though. being naive is a sin

Twisted

Netherlands13554 Posts

February 27 2006 22:08 GMT

#326

Not to mention that he has to take responsibility for his team efforts. He's team captain, they always have to take the blaim.

I could say what goes around comes around, when recruiting those dickfaces, but that would be mean. I trust that oG will get banned from the league, nothing more and nothing less. I also hope this is a lesson that if you play this league, just play it with the people you have, it makes for a lot more fun games.

I don't know about you guys, but I don't enjoy myself watching a bunch of Koreans playing eachother while I don't even know them or haven't spoken to any of them. I'd rather cheer for a bunch of good non-koreans.

{ToT}Strafe

Thailand7026 Posts

February 27 2006 22:26 GMT

#327

They wont get banned though, the only admin at the moment is oG)Lonic. He will probably ignore the entire situation like it didnt happen.

sMaCkEr

Peru295 Posts

February 27 2006 22:32 GMT

#328

oGaming T_T;;

KienO

Germany214 Posts

February 27 2006 22:39 GMT

#329

well i thought lonic left og) after the first incident...

ZoXXeR

Sweden197 Posts

February 27 2006 22:52 GMT

#330

On February 28 2006 07:26 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
They wont get banned though, the only admin at the moment is oG)Lonic. He will probably ignore the entire situation like it didnt happen.

That's wrong, and has been so ever since the start of SCCL. LoNiC left oGaming to concentrate 100% and to work independent with SCCL before the start of the league.

ToT)BrAiN(

Austria899 Posts

February 27 2006 23:52 GMT

#331

well

Strafe left ToT too some weeks ago

go figure :D

[X]Ken_D

United States4650 Posts

February 28 2006 00:08 GMT

#332

On February 28 2006 04:07 ZoXXeR wrote:
Still, it's oGaming as a whole who gets attacked and talked trash about. As for people who are saying the oGaming management sucks since it's so big nd still can't handle a cw, or whatever - the oGaming management is big, yes. But everyone doesn't do the same thing, in our clan. I don't think a lot of people from the management was online when the CW started. I was not, for sure.

A player is a representitive of their team. If the team keeps player like Jang, what does it say about the team?

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

February 28 2006 00:16 GMT

#333

Verbally accosting the members of oG in public is wrong of course. However, Freezer has been ridiculed ALL season long for this very reason. In korean CW's its not a big deal at all for them to use each others ID's and to swap accounts. That is fundamentally frowned upon in the non korean bw scene. This differance is part of the reason why it was generally a bad idea to bring over Sea and import them into a non korean bw scene. We saw this not once, but twice with the SAME player. The oG administration HAS to be held completely liable as they allowed the same error to happen twice. That means they either 1. sorely misplaced their trust in a guy who doesnt care what damage he does to the oG team. 2. Didnt take the necessary precautionary steps to prevent this from happening ie: stricter observation of that player if not full removal. They will be banned, they wont be asked to return and that is all deserving. Dev comming onto several forums and ridiculing the entire threesome of players who have enlightened the community on the aka's of some of the top PGT players almost justifies ANY abuse oG members take. It was just a isolated event, albeit a repeated one, but Dev acting like a flaming defender of the faith can never be "ok." Basically, the way in which BlackJack handled it was a model effort. He looked at it with an unbiased opinion but remained strong on the contingent that "witch-hunting" his fellow members was wrong. He also doesnt deny that justice must be had.

So in short, oG deserves everything thats comming to them. Mocking them in channels for an administration error (of which freezer honorably took the blame for) is not justified. Flaming Dev, that is fine. Even if he retracted his statements he ran around flapping his jaw in to much of a rash nature to be forgotten so quick.

SinfulActs

Turkey152 Posts

February 28 2006 00:37 GMT

#334

so oG raped tot. right?