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MLG this weekend was great - but there is one problem with MLG that is rising higher and higher for every MLG we have. There is way to many Koreans!
There is 19 Koreans in the pools - that is just SICK. How would it look if Spain had 4 teams in the EURO 2012? Should they be allowed to do that because they are the best?
MLG really needs to have a maximum number of players from each country like every other serious sport out there. Make the biggest sc2 nations have a higher "player cap" than the smaller ones - make a seeding based on the country's RANKING.
Example:
Korea rank 1 country in the world: gets to have 8 players travel to MLG
Sweden rank 2 country in the world: gets to have 8 players travel to MLG
Russia rank 5 country in the world: gets to have 5 players travel to MLG
Norway rank 18 in the world: gets to have 1 player travel to MLG
This is a way it could be done - because right now people are losing interest because the tournament is just flooding over with Koreans. Sure we see great play but there is NOTHING more - we need someone to root for, we need the drama outside the match.
MLG last night was great - but after SaSe went out I just went to sleep - it was like there was nothing more to see.
I love the Korean scene but right now MLG might as well change name to GSL.
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Spain does have 4 spanish teams in the Champions League, you can't compare Euro 2012 to MLG because there is not really a Euro 2012 counterpart. We have WCG which is an olympic and every country can send a maximum of three players.
The Korean/Taiwanese seeding slots are restricted to 10, EU has 9 and US has 8. It's completely logical that the region that has the best players has more slots than the other regions.
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Nah, I'd rather watch the best games.
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So we should ruin the integrity of a tournament and stop the best players from coming because you don´t like seeing Koreans at MLG?
The best players are qualified because they deserve to be there. I´d much rather have the best players than just having foreigners because of the diversity. Foreigners simply need to get better at the game, that´s it.
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On June 11 2012 22:18 Hakanfrog wrote:
So we should ruin the integrity of a tournament and stop the best players from coming because you don´t like seeing Koreans at MLG?
The best players are qualified because they deserve to be there. I´d much rather have the best players than just having foreigners because of the diversity. Foreigners simply need to get better at the game, that´s it.
Exactly, and there isn't even any excuse for this. Stephano and Grubby live in the EU and they are still doing well, foreigners just need to step up their game if they want to play at a high level.
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On June 11 2012 22:17 Eee wrote:
Spain does have 4 spanish teams in the Champions League, you can't compare Euro 2012 to MLG because there is not really a Euro 2012 counterpart. We have WCG which is an olympic and every country can send a maximum of three players.
The Korean/Taiwanese seeding slots are restricted to 10, EU has 9 and US has 8. It's completely logical that the region that has the best players has more slots than the other regions.
Okey listen up - Spain has 4 teams in the Champions League for a REASON - they have highest NATION RANKING (together with England and Germany) - get it?
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On June 11 2012 22:13 zuperketla wrote:
Should they be allowed to do that because they are the best?
YES. God yes.
This isn't WCG, it's not WCS.
People want to subsidize the foreign esports community instead of forcing them to up their game. This topic comes up all the time. Screw that.
Eventually you'll get Koreans like Flash and Jaedong who know how to have a personality and become fan favorites. MKP is a great example.
So yeah, hopefully MLG will not listen to these inevitable horrible threads. :/
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I agree. It's completely unenjoyable to watch someone who you know nothing about. I did not watch anything after pool play.
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This is something that comes up a lot and a lot of people are on both sides of this debate.
Personally, I'd rather see the BEST matches. And to be frank, if a foreign player winds up winning at an event with a lot of Koreans he is then praised.
Just look at Socke. He was in the group of death and was AMAZING this weekend. Do you think he would have gotten that much attention if his group consisted of all foreigners?
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On June 11 2012 22:20 zuperketla wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 22:17 Eee wrote:
Spain does have 4 spanish teams in the Champions League, you can't compare Euro 2012 to MLG because there is not really a Euro 2012 counterpart. We have WCG which is an olympic and every country can send a maximum of three players.
The Korean/Taiwanese seeding slots are restricted to 10, EU has 9 and US has 8. It's completely logical that the region that has the best players has more slots than the other regions. Okey listen up - Spain has 4 teams in the Champions League for a REASON - they have highest NATION RANKING (together with England and Germany) - get it?
Yeah, and so does Korea/Taiwan, they have 10 slots, EU has 9 because they have the 2nd highest ranking, and America has 8 because their the worst region. So what is your point?
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Guys does anybody know where I can watch the games played between the BW pros at MLG? Like the games where Flash 2-0'd stork and bisu?
thx in advance guys!
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koreans have less personality which makes it hard to get behind them imho more koreans will hurt the scene in the long run i think
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A tournament would really lose credibility in my eyes and many others if top players were arbitrarily excluded. For example, NA players atm are performing so badly on the top stage except maybe Illusion, how could a tournament seriously have 8 NA players and 8 Koreans?
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On June 11 2012 22:20 zuperketla wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 22:17 Eee wrote:
Spain does have 4 spanish teams in the Champions League, you can't compare Euro 2012 to MLG because there is not really a Euro 2012 counterpart. We have WCG which is an olympic and every country can send a maximum of three players.
The Korean/Taiwanese seeding slots are restricted to 10, EU has 9 and US has 8. It's completely logical that the region that has the best players has more slots than the other regions. Okey listen up - Spain has 4 teams in the Champions League for a REASON - they have highest NATION RANKING (together with England and Germany) - get it?
Okey listen up - Korea has 19 players in the pools for a reason. The reason is that they did well at the arena and came through the open bracket.
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On June 11 2012 22:23 desRow wrote:
koreans have less personality which makes it hard to get behind them imho more koreans will hurt the scene in the long run i think
Foreingers being shit will hurt the scene in the long run*
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In a few interviews throughout MLG people were saying that foreigners attract more viewers, while Koreans make for better games. Personally I'm MUCH more likely to watch an MLG (or any other tournament) if there are more Koreans. Not necessarily the majority are Koreans, but they're a lot of fun to watch. I'm much less likely to watch if it's just a bunch of foreigners.
I believe it was the first mlg arena, that played at the same time as Assembly, which had mostly Euro foreigners that I've never seen. I didn't watch that tournament.
I don't watch Gomtv because of the hours it plays at, but I certainly love the level of play, which we see at mlg with a lot of koreans.
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Best games over More Viewers debate has not changed because you made an 112367158 post about it.
Best games for me => Koreans should not be limited in the number of their participating players
EDIT: watch some of the interviews made by HotBid during this MLG, a few players give their opinion on that point.
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YEAH MAN I WANA WATCH MA HOME GROWN PEEPS DUKE IT OUT AT THE LOCAL BARN LAN YEAH MA- no I just wanna watch Koreans.
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On June 11 2012 22:13 zuperketla wrote:Should they be allowed to do that because they are the best?
I can´t believe this is a serious question.
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