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pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 18:00:40
June 01 2012 18:00 GMT
#281
What make korean women open their mind so easily to foreign men??


Bigger d*cks than their male homies?? xDDD

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Marti
Profile Joined August 2011
552 Posts
June 01 2012 18:02 GMT
#282
How is this thread still going ? This is terrible, terrible "reporting" !
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8670 Posts
June 01 2012 18:07 GMT
#283
you can have the most skilled nerds on the planet with all the GSLs and other major tourney wins, but we get YOUR women - ALL of your women!

//sarcasm off.

bad reporting is bad.
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Zren89
Profile Joined February 2011
United States131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 18:12:48
June 01 2012 18:12 GMT
#284
Very inciteful, thank you for your informed opinion, and thanks to everyone else who contributed to this post.

I was a bit angry when I first saw the vid, but I calmed down pretty quick when I really thought about it. Its a bunch of silly fluff, there may be some deep seeded and vocal minorites in SK that really would like all the Foreigners to gtfo but it seems to be outside the norm.

In the end I watched the video and got a few cheap laughs out of it, and it bolstered my potential confidence should I ever decide to leave the love of my life and decide to hunt the notorious "Yellow Tail" :D

But seriously this is not such a big deal, people are ucomfortable sometimes, hopefully as long as it doesn't spill over into violent actions, its just sensationalist idiocy (with an undercurrent of public tension to be sure)!



On June 01 2012 16:38 NeverGG wrote:
I'm unsurprised tbh. Korea is known (like most countries depending upon the subjects that the media know will gain them attention), for this kind of garbage sensationalist/generalization journalism. As a woman living there I was kind of lucky because I was never subject to the whole 'Foreign guy come to rape/stain our women.' kind of treatment. Whilst it's true that there are some men who come to SK with a bit of 'yellow fever' and do have the intention to date Korean women as a priority there are also plenty of Korean men whose treatment of Korean/foreign women is just the same (it's just a slightly different style when it comes to PDA.)

There's even a group called Anti-English Spectrum who are specifically targeted towards exposing foreigners who are engaging in anything they deem to be unacceptable (It's fine if those involved are breaking the law), but apparently this group has stalked and harassed completely innocent people in the past. I've also heard stories on Dave's ESL Cafe of (usually older and almost always drunk) Korean men abusing foreign man/Korean woman couples on the street for no apparent reason (beyond their own xenophobia.) Personally, the majority of young Korean guys I came into contact with where intensely immature, and the older generation were often drunk, angry and annoying. I did meet some lovely men over in SK, but seeing the weekday falling-down-drunk antics of people old enough to know better really didn't make me think 'Wow, they're so superior to Foreign men.'

It's comically biased to suggest that the Korean women who date foreign men are being taken advantage of - if they're going to popular foreigner hang outs/going into clubs where there will definitely be foreign men then it's a given that some of the guys in there might try to hit on them. It's not as if they're poor powerless virgins with no means to say no.

I enjoyed my time in SK, but seeing things like this make me glad I left.

(I did find it kind of funny that they altered the voices to make everyone sound like a chipmunk though.)

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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 18:16:04
June 01 2012 18:15 GMT
#285
The usual reasons I hear at times for asian women in general having a bit of attraction to foreigners is because of a feeling of exoticism linked with foreigners, they think foreign males are more outgoing and masculine (perception and reality can obviously be different), perhaps don't like how they're treated within their own culture as a female?
Chengakz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States163 Posts
June 01 2012 18:16 GMT
#286
This is dangerous if taken the wrong way. There are some legitimate issues like most Asian people being uncomfortable with too much public physical intimacy with someone who isn't their husband. (My parents would have a heart attack if I did that). The problem is that the Asian women who disregard these values are the younger ones, so it's more of a generational gap. THe problem also, with some women throwing themselves at foreign/Caucasian men is that it gives Asian women a bad name because some white guys think we are "easy". (Before anyone goes off saying otherwise, I said SOME think this) This happened to me while in vacation in Thailand and a few foreign guys started approaching and asking 'how much' and I was wearing plain T-shirt, jeans and converse!
But in general it is dangerous and wrong to typecast a whole group for the actions of a few.
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
June 01 2012 18:16 GMT
#287
On June 01 2012 16:00 redtooth wrote:
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On June 01 2012 15:59 brachester wrote:
On June 01 2012 15:55 arbitrageur wrote:
On June 01 2012 15:53 brachester wrote:
On June 01 2012 15:49 arbitrageur wrote:
On June 01 2012 15:46 brachester wrote:
It is somewhat a legitimate issues that not only happen in korea, but also in several Asian countries. The girls tend to prefer to have relationship with foreigners (for different purposes). As the guy in the video said, they tend to be quite rush in developing relationship with foreigners so it can lead to several issues such as HIV or scam which is the opposite with having relationship with Korean guys in which they have more time to figure whether the relationship is worth it.
I don't think the purpose of the video is about bashing foreigners, but rather spreading awareness about a legitimate issue.


Do you have any evidence for your claims?

I live in vietnam, and it is a legit issues here. You can do some research about it if you want. I cbf looking it up.


So it's a legit issue because you watch the news or you've actually looked at some scientific evidence? Which one?

wtf? Scientific evidence for what? That's a freaking major issue that almost everyone is aware of in vietnam, though it's not as bad as it used to be since people are now more aware of it.

if you can't cite at least 5 academic papers detailing the issue at hand then you have no legitimate right to state any kind of position. basically, you're a bigot.


pssh its common knowledge to anyone living in asian countries. asian girls have white fever way worse than white guys have yellow fever. they all want a trophy white husband. you don't need scientific studies to back it up, you can just talk to the girls yourself.

but you can take a look at census data in the US to see dating preferences even here - white male asian female couples and black guy white girl couples are the largest demographic when it comes to interracial dating. other combos are insignificant in comparison.

so yes, it is quite easy for a foreigner to go to korea, bang tons of girls, party hard, and never call them again
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
June 01 2012 18:18 GMT
#288

Nice combination of bigotry, chauvinism and racism.


couldn't have put it better
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
June 01 2012 18:19 GMT
#289
On June 01 2012 16:16 scph wrote:
I don't understand why this is "trash" or bad? It's not offensive or negative at all. It's raising awareness about issues that do exist, and though it may sound offensive, it is just the way Asian culture is. I'm not Korean, but I am Asian, and as an Asian, I have seen this idea of "foreigners" shitting on Asians and their cultural values many times. I've also seen Asians shitting all over other people just because they're foreigners as well. The problem is, individuals group everyone into one category just because of their race or ethnicity and then people put a label on them, upsetting millions of people. If the video had presented its message in a more "appropriate" way, no one would be so uptight about it. But it isn't, so get over it. I love how in the U.S., one Asian guy does something horrible and he's immediately front page news, but twenty other white guys have done the same thing yet they get a 1 minute coverage on Breaking News, Live at 11. It's the fucking media folks, deal with it.

Anyways, generally speaking, the Asians have very conservative cultures. They will speak about foreigners in disrespectful ways and will look down on interracial relationships. But you know what? There is a good amount of truth in the things Asians have to say about "foreigners". But it's not just foreigners causing problems, everyone does it to everyone else at some point. It's only being emphasized in Korea because it's starting to become a large issue there.



No, just no, you just say that happens, but really, it never happens, there is hardly ever a time when an asian man is on the BREAKING NEWS cuz he broke the law. You clearly have not seen American News for a while. Next, I understand it might be an issue, that is fine, but there is no legitimate evidence to back this up other than a few "victims." If i were to diagnose every white chick who dated an asian man, who then broke her heart, as a cultural issue, that would be racist wouldn't it? Oh shit we just got to why us foreigners might be a bit angry about this, just like you would be if my aformentioned statement were to air. The fact is that this was portrayed as us foreigners coming in and pillaging Korean women, not directly saying we'd give them HIV but saying that our sleeping around will give them HIV somehow, and stealing them from more deserving korean men. Thats putting this "documentary" in other words. If it had been put in such a way that it wasn't intentionally made to hurt people who aren't the Korean majority, then it would be fine. I'm not arguing for political correctness, I'm arguing for people not to be bigots against the majority of people.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
June 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#290
oh shit, it's rekrul's 7th most favorite topic
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Kahlgar
Profile Joined June 2011
411 Posts
June 01 2012 18:22 GMT
#291
On June 02 2012 02:15 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
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On June 02 2012 02:08 Kahlgar wrote:
On June 02 2012 01:38 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
The fault is on both sides, hoebags who only likes to sleep with foreigners (and these are very minority, only in Itaewon prolly) and those who takes advantage of this. I honestly think this stereotype on foreigners is wrong (apart from the Chinese in Korea, too many crimes and problems to consider it only a portion of their population). But I also think you can't fault Korean men who watches news and hears bad things about what happens in Itaewon


What's wrong with koreans girls "who only likes to sleep with foreigners" ? really don't see how their sexual preference is any of your business.

We should prolly decide that white guys that have a thing for asians should be looked down upon, would definately make TL more fun.


Because regular Korean women who aren't sluts are portrayed as sluts as a whole. I guess the Korean men who goes to South East Asia on a business (or more like Sex-tour) trip is nothing wrong because they can do whatever they want. Well guess what, it leaves a large imprint that Korean men are irresponsible dicks. Just like that, these select women in Itaewon has left a large negative imprint on all Korean women in the country. It saddens and angers me to see them Internet cafe's made by English teachers in Korea discussing their 'easy' experience with these sluts, making it seem like all Korean women are easy.


Nothing wrong with being easy tho, it was historically bad due to pregnancy risk but nowadays, with contraception (and not being totally irresponsable wrt STDs), it is objectively a non issue.

You might have traditional/religious moral objections to it and that's fine but projecting your own moral values onto others is pretty delusional and will do nothing but generate unnecessary hate.

As for Korea reputation, this broadcast is a lot more damaging than all the koreans girls with foreigners fever ever will be.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
June 01 2012 18:33 GMT
#292
Korea doesn't believe in contraception. I went to a pharmacy to buy condoms and the pharmacist offered me a box with dinosaurs on it.
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ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 18:37:20
June 01 2012 18:35 GMT
#293
haha Korean men thinks they can just pull it out at the right time to prevent pregnancy. Irresponsibility at best.
But I put the blame on education system, they're scared to conduct proper sex ed for some reason. I for one was shocked at Western sex ed when I immigrated.

I don't care about them being easy. I care about the entire population portrayed badly as a whole because of these select easy women. What does this have to do with my moral or opinion, this is stereotype and misperception.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 18:50:51
June 01 2012 18:38 GMT
#294
On June 02 2012 03:00 pR0gR4m3R wrote:
Show nested quote +
What make korean women open their mind so easily to foreign men??


Bigger d*cks than their male homies?? xDDD

User was warned for this post

While it's maybe a little bit offensive as a joke,statically speaking he isn't wrong lol.
Cackle™
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 18:46:57
June 01 2012 18:43 GMT
#295
On June 02 2012 03:16 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 16:00 redtooth wrote:
On June 01 2012 15:59 brachester wrote:
On June 01 2012 15:55 arbitrageur wrote:
On June 01 2012 15:53 brachester wrote:
On June 01 2012 15:49 arbitrageur wrote:
On June 01 2012 15:46 brachester wrote:
It is somewhat a legitimate issues that not only happen in korea, but also in several Asian countries. The girls tend to prefer to have relationship with foreigners (for different purposes). As the guy in the video said, they tend to be quite rush in developing relationship with foreigners so it can lead to several issues such as HIV or scam which is the opposite with having relationship with Korean guys in which they have more time to figure whether the relationship is worth it.
I don't think the purpose of the video is about bashing foreigners, but rather spreading awareness about a legitimate issue.


Do you have any evidence for your claims?

I live in vietnam, and it is a legit issues here. You can do some research about it if you want. I cbf looking it up.


So it's a legit issue because you watch the news or you've actually looked at some scientific evidence? Which one?

wtf? Scientific evidence for what? That's a freaking major issue that almost everyone is aware of in vietnam, though it's not as bad as it used to be since people are now more aware of it.

if you can't cite at least 5 academic papers detailing the issue at hand then you have no legitimate right to state any kind of position. basically, you're a bigot.


pssh its common knowledge to anyone living in asian countries. asian girls have white fever way worse than white guys have yellow fever. they all want a trophy white husband. you don't need scientific studies to back it up, you can just talk to the girls yourself.

but you can take a look at census data in the US to see dating preferences even here - white male asian female couples and black guy white girl couples are the largest demographic when it comes to interracial dating. other combos are insignificant in comparison.

so yes, it is quite easy for a foreigner to go to korea, bang tons of girls, party hard, and never call them again

Maybe in the Far East you're right about that. But in SoCal at least, many asian girls are either fobby of varying degrees, anti-dating, and/or anti-dating non-asians. Then a good many of the 'eligible' ones are just ugly or weird. Makes me wonder how the hell I ever developed yellow fever haha or how I've gotten a hold of a good number of pretty sweet asian girls over the past few years given the small window available.

Then of course there's the Asian girls around these parts who literally want nothing to do with Asian stuff and aren't ethnocentric at all and are just down and cool. Those girls are awesome, though in a very small minority in my experience.


On June 02 2012 03:38 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 03:00 pR0gR4m3R wrote:
What make korean women open their mind so easily to foreign men??


Bigger d*cks than their male homies?? xDDD

User was warned for this post

While it's a maybe a little bit offensive as a joke,statically speaking he isn't wrong lol.

Yeah, if there's three things asian girls have commented on about how I am physically in a favorable manner, it's my eyes/eyelashes, abs, and d*ck.
Raw12
Profile Joined August 2011
United States15 Posts
June 01 2012 18:51 GMT
#296
Hmm i really thought only North Korea would make a video like that
sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
June 01 2012 18:53 GMT
#297
Only saying this once to avoid myself getting absorbed in this stupid flame-fest:

-Video is bigotted and shows preferencialism towards a nationalistic and xenophobic type of mentality

-Video is also correct that its a major problem over there. Much moreso than vast majority of foreigners here are saying.

-Yeah, a lot of Asia is pretty xenophobic.

-Every single ethnicity has their "crazy stupid bitches" and their "proper women". Don't try denying that.

-Most (yes, most) of the foreign people here are being just as racist in their statements in far more ignorant ways than this video.

-Not understanding the culture and the fact that Asia still very much remembers the "Westernization" of Asia which is still being done today at great cost to the public.

-If you haven't been conquered in recent history, you really can't hope to understand the resulting xenophobic reaction from a nation(s) who has. People who haven't been through that kind of change should not type or speak about such things because it would appear exactly like a small child speaking on international commerce and serious political and financial issues to them.
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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
June 01 2012 18:55 GMT
#298
On June 02 2012 03:33 Chill wrote:
Korea doesn't believe in contraception. I went to a pharmacy to buy condoms and the pharmacist offered me a box with dinosaurs on it.


Huh, has it still not changed? I asked a friend and he says the convenience stores all sell it.
Stuck.
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 18:59:56
June 01 2012 18:59 GMT
#299
On Jun 1 2012 14:33 (25 min) Chill wrote:
Korea doesn't believe in contraception. I went to a pharmacy to buy condoms and the pharmacist offered me a box with dinosaurs on it.


T-Rex condoms obviously.
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TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
June 01 2012 19:03 GMT
#300
On June 02 2012 03:33 Chill wrote:
Korea doesn't believe in contraception. I went to a pharmacy to buy condoms and the pharmacist offered me a box with dinosaurs on it.



It's cause you're foreign, so they assume your penis is the size of a dinosaur.
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