• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:56
CEST 23:56
KST 06:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool51Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
China Uses Video Games to Sh…
TrAiDoS
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2221 users

Vines to Empire?

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Normal
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-18 14:49:06
May 18 2012 14:47 GMT
#1
Former OGS player Vines joining Team Empire, one of the best European teams!?

Credits to reddit - links speak for more than mere words:



@marconofrio
Dear Empire, you should've told VINES to not change his BNet name before you made it public.


and a screenshot (credits to FXOfrequency):

http://i.imgur.com/uBhIR.jpg
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Silent12ill
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States358 Posts
May 18 2012 14:49 GMT
#2
Good find. If true good pick up hope to see more vines.
MicroTastiC
Profile Joined January 2011
375 Posts
May 18 2012 14:50 GMT
#3
wow sad to see oGs go
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
May 18 2012 14:50 GMT
#4
Really cool, sick protoss player! :D
Muffinman53
Profile Joined November 2010
571 Posts
May 18 2012 14:50 GMT
#5
If they were planning to make an official announcement about this...fail T.T
But awesome! Hopefully it's true and Vines can start going to foreign events!
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
May 18 2012 14:50 GMT
#6
Good pickup if it's true. Vines is a really good up and comer and Empire desperately needs protoss.
Moderator
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
May 18 2012 14:51 GMT
#7
EmpireVines, cool name.

Good pickup.
eSports or die tryin'
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45437 Posts
May 18 2012 14:53 GMT
#8
Another nail in the coffin for oGs x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 18 2012 14:54 GMT
#9
Well if they won't reform as a group I hope to see more of the oGs boys on foreign teams, its a good chance for good teams to pick up great Korean players.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 18 2012 14:55 GMT
#10
On May 18 2012 23:50 NrGmonk wrote:
Good pickup if it's true. Vines is a really good up and comer and Empire desperately needs protoss.


Pretty much this exactly. They've always been so terran heavy, a good protoss will be nice for them!

Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
May 18 2012 14:55 GMT
#11
Sad for oGs, great for Empire.
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-18 15:04:05
May 18 2012 14:57 GMT
#12
Good for vines and empire. Empires protoss lineup should be strengthed alot with this pickup and vines gets a team which can offer him the chance to see some foreign tournements. hope more of the old ogs people gets picked up
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
May 18 2012 14:57 GMT
#13
Great for Vines, i love his stream, so it´s good that he is in a good team already again.
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
May 18 2012 14:58 GMT
#14
Very good pickup for Empire if true.


(Also why Clide not SlayerSClide?)
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
May 18 2012 14:59 GMT
#15
If it's true, Empire has certainly picked up a great Protoss. Vines has some great potential, and playing on Empire can really help his skills.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 18 2012 14:59 GMT
#16
Empire has a great eye for talent, they constantly have the sickest pickups of players who aren't the most popular but super talented.
Moosegills
Profile Joined March 2011
United States558 Posts
May 18 2012 15:00 GMT
#17
I still can't read his name as "Venus" instead of "Vines" for the life of me TT. Nevertheless he is a great protoss and should suit empire well.
#1 HuK fan, zerg player playing for http://www.complexitygaming.com - @coL_Moosegills
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
May 18 2012 15:03 GMT
#18
for some reason this makes me more sad than happy....
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
May 18 2012 15:04 GMT
#19
On May 19 2012 00:00 Moosegills wrote:
I still can't read his name as "Venus" instead of "Vines" for the life of me TT. Nevertheless he is a great protoss and should suit empire well.

Why would you read his name as Venus when its spelled Vines ? If he wanted to be called venus he should have named himself venus
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
May 18 2012 15:05 GMT
#20
A pity they were so quick to dismiss Welmu, he has really grown over the last couple of months. Oh well.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 18 2012 15:08 GMT
#21
Glad for PENIS if it's true.
oGs got killed by col and SK anyway, I hope they'll reform but if not I hope ex-oGs will survive this
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
May 18 2012 15:10 GMT
#22
On May 19 2012 00:04 Ryps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 00:00 Moosegills wrote:
I still can't read his name as "Venus" instead of "Vines" for the life of me TT. Nevertheless he is a great protoss and should suit empire well.

Why would you read his name as Venus when its spelled Vines ? If he wanted to be called venus he should have named himself venus


He didn't want his name to be "Venus" that's just how it was pronounced. (and rather hilariously "penis" during the GSL)
Done with Team Liquid for a while. Don't expect to find me here.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45437 Posts
May 18 2012 15:12 GMT
#23
On May 19 2012 00:04 Ryps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 00:00 Moosegills wrote:
I still can't read his name as "Venus" instead of "Vines" for the life of me TT. Nevertheless he is a great protoss and should suit empire well.

Why would you read his name as Venus when its spelled Vines ? If he wanted to be called venus he should have named himself venus


Because he said his name is pronounced Venus.

How's your name pronounced? Rips? Ripes? Reaps? Ghoti?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Assaulter
Profile Joined December 2010
Lithuania324 Posts
May 18 2012 15:12 GMT
#24
Recent Broadcasts : Why don't we just fuck

Oh that frequency
Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
May 18 2012 15:15 GMT
#25
really Sick pickup. with a Korean zerg and protoss, and a beastly Trio of foreign terrans, Empire is looking sick.
Co-Manager of Soviet Gaming * http://twitter.com/#!/sGMarioo * http://www.facebook.com/SovietGamingfanpage * https://twitter.com/#!/SovietGaming
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
May 18 2012 15:17 GMT
#26
I hope its true!
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
May 18 2012 15:23 GMT
#27
(T)Kas, (Z)viOLet and (P)Vines? Sick aces for each race. If this is true, looking forward to seeing Vines at more foreign tournaments, he absolutely destroys Korean GM every season.
Metak
Profile Joined August 2011
296 Posts
May 18 2012 15:25 GMT
#28
Love his stream, his play seems so incredibly steady. Hope to see alot of him at foreign tournaments.
mrgauva
Profile Joined December 2011
Vietnam134 Posts
May 18 2012 15:27 GMT
#29
GL Vines, nice to see you have a good team.
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
May 18 2012 15:29 GMT
#30
Awesome lineup comin' out from Empire if this is true, Vines is really good!
VOD finder guy for sc2ratings.com/ ! aka: ogndrahcir, a9azn2 | Go ZerO, Stork, Sea, and KawaiiRice :D | nesc2league.com/forum/index.php | youtube.com/watch?v=oaGtjWL5mZo
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
May 18 2012 15:31 GMT
#31
Vines is in Up n Down so really great pickup by Empire!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
May 18 2012 15:33 GMT
#32
Filthy lineup for Empire now. Terran line goes three deep and now have anchors at Z and P too. Inb4 EU dominance.
ALL HAIL THE KING IN THE NORTH! HAIL! HAIL!
Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
May 18 2012 15:34 GMT
#33
Very good for both Empire and VINES if this is true.

And I think I heard during Code A this season that he was actually going for Finesse a his name, but since korean does not have the "F"-sound, he thought this would be the next best thing :/
$O$ | herO[jOin] | Zest hwaiting!
loginn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France815 Posts
May 18 2012 15:35 GMT
#34
Millenium was still looking for a top terran. Is there gonna be MSupernova ? I don't think oGs will recover from this
Stephano, Taking skill to the bank since IPL3. Also Lucifron and FBH
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
May 18 2012 15:35 GMT
#35
This team is getting pretty damn good, they have some really solid players for all races now.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 18 2012 15:36 GMT
#36
On May 19 2012 00:35 loginn wrote:
Millenium was still looking for a top terran. Is there gonna be MSupernova ? I don't think oGs will recover from this


there's nothing to recover from., they disbanded already and have no plans of reforming because all the players decided to join foreign teams
loginn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France815 Posts
May 18 2012 15:40 GMT
#37
True. There's not much left to recover from. Oh well, they were my favorite korean team back when.
Stephano, Taking skill to the bank since IPL3. Also Lucifron and FBH
GeorgeyBeats
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom338 Posts
May 18 2012 15:40 GMT
#38
Empire are getting a much more balanced roster if this is true :D
How many bears could bear grylls grill if bear grylls coud grill bears?
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
May 18 2012 15:41 GMT
#39
This guy will take many foreign tourneys.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 18 2012 15:46 GMT
#40
On May 19 2012 00:36 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 00:35 loginn wrote:
Millenium was still looking for a top terran. Is there gonna be MSupernova ? I don't think oGs will recover from this


there's nothing to recover from., they disbanded already and have no plans of reforming because all the players decided to join foreign teams

Well not many teams recover from being disbanded do they?
Glorious SEA doto
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
May 18 2012 15:52 GMT
#41
BIG PICKUP!!!
cant wait to see him in more euro tournaments!!!
Live and Let Die!
Nokshalees
Profile Joined March 2012
United States120 Posts
May 18 2012 15:57 GMT
#42
RIP oGs ;_;

Though empire going strong and be one of the top european teams is great.
MKP/MVP/Kas/ThorZaiN/Jinro/ForGG | I MAEK HAE BYUNG. | #terranprideworldwide
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
May 18 2012 16:14 GMT
#43
What's with all the sad/poor oGs.. there is no more oGs :[
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
May 18 2012 16:26 GMT
#44
Desrow just mentioned this on his stream while talking to someone, i thought he said "venus to empire" but this would make more sense.
dr Helvetica <3
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
May 18 2012 16:30 GMT
#45
best of luck to him, empires team looks sick

I pronounce my name "icecream"
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45437 Posts
May 18 2012 16:30 GMT
#46
On May 19 2012 01:26 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Desrow just mentioned this on his stream while talking to someone, i thought he said "venus to empire" but this would make more sense.


What do you mean "but"? What he said was exactly correct.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LongBow
Profile Joined May 2012
United States265 Posts
May 18 2012 16:33 GMT
#47
Vines is incredible! Him, Violet, and Kas will tear face in some team leagues hopefully!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 18 2012 16:36 GMT
#48
On May 19 2012 00:00 Moosegills wrote:
I still can't read his name as "Venus" instead of "Vines" for the life of me TT. Nevertheless he is a great protoss and should suit empire well.

I thought it was supposed to be FINESSE.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
pinball777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States134 Posts
May 18 2012 17:02 GMT
#49
Great pick-up by Team Empire, for sure one of the best teams in Europe now!
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
May 18 2012 17:04 GMT
#50
great, oGs players will now all officially be in a foreign team
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
May 18 2012 18:53 GMT
#51
Move to official thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=338500
Moderatorgold coin
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 155
ProTech128
JuggernautJason126
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2549
ggaemo 88
NaDa 14
Dota 2
canceldota273
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv2555
kRYSTAL_40
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0244
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor188
Other Games
summit1g8210
Grubby3146
FrodaN1307
shahzam576
Liquid`Hasu172
Mew2King61
ZombieGrub51
Liquid`Ken6
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 79
• musti20045 36
• Hinosc 24
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 46
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2601
Other Games
• imaqtpie1322
• Scarra532
• Shiphtur159
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
11h 5m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
12h 5m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 11h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 14h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
uThermal 2v2 Last Chance Qualifiers 2026
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.