Destiny and Quantic part ways - Page 58

On May 04 2012 23:03 probob wrote:


Maybe try to read that again, the problem is banning the word nigger, does in fact nothing to support black people, because their problems like being payed less/less education wont be solved by any of that. Its just cosmetics.

On May 04 2012 23:03 Xercen wrote:


Destiny said something that would insult/hurt the other ethnic group he or she is speaking to. He deliberately went out of his way to insult a korean based on his race. Therefore that comment was a racist comment. Simple.

On May 04 2012 23:03 Xercen wrote:


Destiny said something that would insult/hurt the other ethnic group he or she is speaking to. He deliberately went out of his way to insult a korean based on his race. Therefore that comment was a racist comment. Simple.

On May 04 2012 22:41 Doodsmack wrote:



I take that to mean you emailed quantic's sponsors in this case? Shame on you. I'd like to see the people who emailed the sponsors actually admit to it in this thread, but I doubt they will. And it's telling that they aren't willing to admit it. How do you feel about doing damage to Quantic and it's other players before even giving Quantic a chance to respond? You're Swedish - do you consider yourself a fan of Naniwa? What if he's going to lose some benefits as a result of this? What if this has caused him and other Quantic players worry which hurts their practice mindset? Was there no other way to communicate your opinion to Quantic than to go straight to their sponsors?

I think that deep down, the people who contacted the sponsors realize that it wasn't really to carry the banner of justice and do the right thing for esports. It was just to fulfill some cynical urge in them to be destructive and incite drama. And that's why I haven't seen a single person in this thread admit to it directly (though someone correct me if I've missed it).

The bottom line is that you're doing more harm than good. We would be better off without you as a "fan".

Now let's see if any of them will admit to it in response to this, or if they will just continue to hide in their little holes.

On May 04 2012 23:03 Resilient wrote:


I've mostly avoided this drama entirely because I find the community reaction utterly embarrassing, and it's too easy to fall into a warning/ban hole when trying to express this. This post basically sums up how I feel about the situation. Well said.

On May 04 2012 15:58 Toons wrote:
Dear starcraft 2 community,
You suck.

On May 04 2012 23:07 Pwnographics wrote:


So instead of using 'gook', Destiny used 'dumassfuck retard'. You'd be satisfied?

On May 04 2012 23:08 Doodsmack wrote:
Still waiting on the kids who emailed sponsors to admit to it in this thread. To all the people saying it's good that Destiny got punished because we need to rid esports of hate speech - why don't you also say, as part of your post, whether you emailed the sponsors. And don't make a new account to do it. Let's see if you're willing to come out of your hiding spot.

Quote this post if you too want to see if they're willing to admit to emailing the sponsors.

On May 04 2012 23:08 halfies wrote:

i emailed razer. and i stand by it. personally, i think any racism in any form is absolutely disgusting, and im exactly the same in real life. if people i know act racist tell them not to, and if they keep doing it i stop any associations with them.
if you are stupid enough to think that e sports can grow beyond what it is right now with behaviour like that your very stupid.
and i dont feel bad about not giving quantic a chance to respond because if no one had made a fuss, they wouldn't have. it not the first time destiny has said thing that he wouldn't get away with in any other role, and they have continued to support him.
if quantic had chosen destiny over razer they would have been silly, and deserved to fail as a team. and obviously, razer wouldn't have stopped supporting them unless they had no choice. so i dont feel bad about hypothetical situations that were very unlikely to happen.
if you want the SC2 community to be consist solely of immature children and socially retarded adults who have no idea how the real world works, then indeed you would be better off without me as a fan, but since thats not what i want, its not something that im willing to give up basic principles to help.
and im sure youll laugh at the basic principles bit, but to me, discrimination against anything that you cant help, be it race, sexual orientation, or just a problem you were born with is wrong and should be fought at every moment it rears its head.
ive already stated why i think that destiny is actually a racist in the previous thread, and not, as many of his fanboys have said just using it as an expression of free speech, or in an attempt to help bring awareness to the problems, which is another laughable line that has been spouted several times.
the bottom line is that while what i did may not have been good for destiny, its good for esports, and TL, to attempt to distance ourselves from things like this.
if you want to have a SC2 scene where you can say things like that without getting in trouble, its called /vg/, and its fucking awful

But it would be devastating to certain parts of Quantic if things continued down this road (and still might be, though there's not much that can be done at this point).

On May 04 2012 22:56 Wortie wrote:


yeah, because if we don't say the words, the problem doesn't exist. It's not like black people get payed the same because nobody says nigger.

On May 04 2012 23:03 KeksX wrote:

This discussion is a giant circlejerk of people not knowing their shit and people knowing their shit but not explaining it.

There are so many open questsions that people like you ignore, for example:

What is racism?
How does one become a racist?
What do racists do that someone that is not racist does as well, or rather what is an indicator of someone being a racist and what not?
Is there "good/okay" racism? How does the biology come into play?

These are just a few questions I came up with(there are way more than this) that clearly are very important to the issue and should be answered in a public matter, but actually people all answer them for themselves, creating groups of understanding and therefore masses of misunderstanding. There is no point in arguing over this while people don't share definitions, views and perspectives. You are basically arguing about different issues.

Also, on top of that, you jump to conclusions and assume things while not even BOTHERING to ask a single question.
That, my friend, is pure ignorance.

On May 04 2012 23:08 Utinni wrote:

He should prolly learn how to stop a cannon rush before he types another word.

On May 04 2012 23:09 jdsowa wrote:
There are teenagers who haven't completely developed a sense of perspective or capacity for empathy, and so they can't comprehend the severity of the offense made or the context of a sponsor that is in business to make money and avoid controversy. And then there are folks who are maybe a little bit older, who have developed some capacity to identify with what life must be like for minority groups, that also understand how the business world works, what 'free speech' entails, and so on. Until one group catches up with the other, there will be no mutual agreement.