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Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
April 15 2012 07:42 GMT
#1
First a story of three women in the military. Stephanie Schroeder joined the U.S. Marine Corps not long after 9/11. A year and a half later, the Marines diagnosed her with a personality disorder and deemed her psychologically unfit for the Corps. Anna Moore enlisted in the Army also after 9/11. Moore was a Patriot missile battery operator in Germany when she was diagnosed with a personality disorder and dismissed from the Army. Jenny McClendon was serving as a sonar operator on a Navy destroyer when she received her personality disorder diagnosis.

But aside from being all disgnosed with personality/psychological disorders, these three women have on other thing in common. They are all victims of rape duing their stint in the military.

CNN did a thorough study on this on all branches of the military and saw a glaring pattern of dismissal by psychological reasons immediately following rape and sexual assault cases. As for the three women earlier, here are their accounts:

Schroeder says a fellow Marine followed her to the bathroom in April 2002. She says he then punched her, ripped off her pants and raped her. When she reported what happened, a non-commissioned officer dismissed the allegation, saying, "'Don't come bitching to me because you had sex and changed your mind,'" Schroeder recalls.

Moore says she was alone in her barracks in October 2002 when a non-commissioned officer from another battery tried to rape her. When she filled out forms to report it, she says, her first sergeant, told her: "Forget about it. It never happened," and tore up the paperwork.

"It felt like a punch in the gut," Moore says. "I couldn't trust my chain of command to ever back me up."

McClendon says she was aboard a Navy destroyer at sea when a superior raped her on the midnight to 2 a.m. watch. After reporting the attack, she was diagnosed with a personality disorder and deemed unfit to serve.


As far as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) is concerened, a personality disorder is a long-standing, inflexible pattern of maladaptive behavior and coping, beginning in adolescence or early adulthood. That means women like Schroeder, Moore and McClendon had a pre-existing personality disorder when they joined the military. Someone with personality disorder tends to get fired from jobs, get in trouble with the law or at school or is unable to maintain relationships. It therefore "makes absolutely no sense medically for people to be diagnosed all of a sudden after being sexually assaulted as an adult in the military to say 'No, you've had this all along,'" says Bhagwati, of the Service Women's Action Network.

The really troubling thing here is that these women volunteer their lives to defend our country, or USA for non-Americans. Yet the chain of command, mostly male-dominated would rather turn a blind eye, even actually encourage abuse, on these abuses towards women. How long has this been happening? Why is the military still espousing and tolerating this medieval and backward notion of gender power? What about the exponential trauma experienced by military women who got sexually assaulted on the job, how will they recover from it?


Source: CNN
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mujahid
Profile Joined February 2012
Egypt20 Posts
April 15 2012 07:56 GMT
#2
wtf America!

- stop this military absolutism that you justify everything for "world peace" even the rape of women
- stop invasion of other countries
- stop pretending to be the world police!

User was temp banned for this post.
"Show forgiveness, speak for justice and avoid the ignorant."
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 15 2012 07:58 GMT
#3
shits fucked up. of course they got a personality disorder after that. Women have it rough in the military.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
April 15 2012 07:59 GMT
#4
But has she been diagnosed with a personality disorder? does this mean she is making these stories up? if this stuff actually happened, it would be truly shocking. And imo @mujahid, you should vote for ron paul
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zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
April 15 2012 08:00 GMT
#5
i know rape is bad but it just turns me on
probably they think that way too

User was temp banned for this post.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 08:03:49
April 15 2012 08:02 GMT
#6
what exactly do you want to discuss? this is a fucking tragedy. nobody is going to say this is okay. nobody is going to say dont do anything about this.

edit: i just read two comments before mine that make me think i was being hasty. yes, there are less than intelligent people.
mujahid
Profile Joined February 2012
Egypt20 Posts
April 15 2012 08:03 GMT
#7
On April 15 2012 16:59 firehand101 wrote:
But has she been diagnosed with a personality disorder? does this mean she is making these stories up? if this stuff actually happened, it would be truly shocking. And imo @mujahid, you should vote for ron paul

What's wrong with your head? Did you not see im NOT american?
"Show forgiveness, speak for justice and avoid the ignorant."
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 08:06:05
April 15 2012 08:05 GMT
#8
On April 15 2012 17:03 mujahid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 16:59 firehand101 wrote:
But has she been diagnosed with a personality disorder? does this mean she is making these stories up? if this stuff actually happened, it would be truly shocking. And imo @mujahid, you should vote for ron paul

What's wrong with your head? Did you not see im NOT american?

given your name and your two posts, its pretty clear what you are.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
April 15 2012 08:06 GMT
#9
Were they diagnosed before or after the reported rape?
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Profile Joined October 2008
Latvia791 Posts
April 15 2012 08:06 GMT
#10
Most likely there are cases where females are at fault making things up, at the same time there must be cases where this diagnose is just a reason to hush the whole thing over. When things like that happen in military and especially military of country like USA and the rapists aren't prosecuted you do feel helpless.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 15 2012 08:06 GMT
#11
On April 15 2012 16:59 firehand101 wrote:
But has she been diagnosed with a personality disorder? does this mean she is making these stories up? if this stuff actually happened, it would be truly shocking. And imo @mujahid, you should vote for ron paul


Other way around.
Gets raped and then claims they all had personality disorders.
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SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
April 15 2012 08:06 GMT
#12
On April 15 2012 17:00 zimp wrote:
i know rape is bad but it just turns me on
probably they think that way too

Ur jk is highly distasteful. (I am assuming ur jking)
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
April 15 2012 08:07 GMT
#13
Judging by the first few posts in this thread, it's going to be the worst TL thread of all time if I leave it open. The topic just attracts the perfect storm of stupid.

I can close this thread or I can just ban everyone who makes a dumb post.

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Blennd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
April 15 2012 08:08 GMT
#14
On April 15 2012 16:56 mujahid wrote:
wtf America!

- stop this military absolutism that you justify everything for "world peace" even the rape of women
- stop invasion of other countries
- stop pretending to be the world police!


I'm gonna give you a whole lot of credit here and assume this post is satire of how ludicrous the America-bashing on TL can be.
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 08:11:10
April 15 2012 08:10 GMT
#15
On April 15 2012 17:03 mujahid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 16:59 firehand101 wrote:
But has she been diagnosed with a personality disorder? does this mean she is making these stories up? if this stuff actually happened, it would be truly shocking. And imo @mujahid, you should vote for ron paul

What's wrong with your head? Did you not see im NOT american?


I don't think that he means that entirely seriously, he is Australian after all.

This is just a tragedy these stories are simply disgusting. There was a story a while back about a similar incident in Australia a while back.

EDIT: Motbob posted while I was writing mine so time to abandon thread.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
CrazyAsian
Profile Joined October 2010
United States188 Posts
April 15 2012 08:10 GMT
#16
On April 15 2012 16:56 mujahid wrote:
wtf America!

- stop this military absolutism that you justify everything for "world peace" even the rape of women
- stop invasion of other countries
- stop pretending to be the world police!


Not exactly something constructive to add to this thread. Its a quick way to get it closed, thanks...

cowpies
Profile Joined April 2010
United States43 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 08:12:28
April 15 2012 08:11 GMT
#17
This whole thread is just bad....
I think that it is sad that something like this is possible. I have to assume that these women are lying without proof but regardless the fact that they have the opportunity to lie about being raped or actually be raped is a problem.

edit: Ty motbob
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
April 15 2012 08:11 GMT
#18
On April 15 2012 17:00 zimp wrote:
i know rape is bad but it just turns me on
probably they think that way too

What? You justify by the fact you have weird fantasies?
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
April 15 2012 08:13 GMT
#19
Surprise! I banned the morons AND closed the thread!
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