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HammerSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada103 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 20:04:41
April 13 2012 19:57 GMT
#1
Hey guys, this is a really a fun build I've been doing for a while. The opening (reaper/marauder/medivac) is something that I've been doing for sometime and is really effective with good micro. I use the opener to transition into a mech build as well as marine ups/drop play.

I haven't written out a build order, but will do so soon! Please let me know if you have any questions and CONSTRUCTIVE feedback. This build may not work at the highest levels, but I am sharing it for MAINSTREAM players that have NORMAL apm It's really fun to pull off and also to watch! Cheers.

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Replays (8 Min Timing)

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LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
April 13 2012 20:13 GMT
#2
What about Infestors? How do you deal with those fungals. Spreads might help, but even so..
"Want some? Go get some!"
crocodile
Profile Joined February 2011
United States615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 20:59:43
April 13 2012 20:16 GMT
#3
Here we go again... I can't believe you can get away with making another thread after the last one.

This opener is so vulnerable to fast Muta play it's not even funny. Also those replays... Wow. I've never seen Zergs that bad. One of them just flies like 15 mutas into 8 turrets and lets them fight it out.

For the Ravens, Infestors and Mutas both annihilate them. The only reason you even survived in your VODs is because your opponents had staggeringly bad macro, and they are for some reason going for Broodlord/Corruptor WITHOUT Infestors. What league is this?

Don't get me wrong, Ravens are great support units, but you can't use them as your main army.
Master League Terran. Huge fan of Quantic Gaming and ROOTDestiny
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
April 13 2012 20:20 GMT
#4
So you have a build with no BO, just replays and videos? Can't you easily type out a BO from the video/replays?
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
HammerSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada103 Posts
April 13 2012 20:23 GMT
#5
On April 14 2012 05:13 LiLSighKoh wrote:
What about Infestors? How do you deal with those fungals. Spreads might help, but even so..

Infestors are a good response to the build. Good awareness and scanning, along with banshee's in the mix are good ways of countering investor play.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 13 2012 20:24 GMT
#6
Your opening looks interesting, I'll give it a try! Your wallin in the beginning was kinda hilarious, pretty sure nothing was gonna bust trough there for some time.
"NO" -Has
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
April 13 2012 20:26 GMT
#7
Without a build order, I can't pass judgement on this, but

It looks pretty solid for high diamond.
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CreepyNA
Profile Joined September 2011
United States106 Posts
April 13 2012 20:51 GMT
#8
Just curious, but what league and points are you?
Haters gonna hate
HammerSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada103 Posts
April 13 2012 20:56 GMT
#9
On April 14 2012 05:51 CreepyNA wrote:
Just curious, but what league and points are you?

Bouncin between Masters and Diamond. I lose more games than I should as I try a lot non-conventional builds on ladder to feature them on my channel
yoona2012
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark196 Posts
April 13 2012 22:05 GMT
#10
Watched the first video, while shaking my head and feeling shameful on behalf of both players. I´d like to see a video showing the actual ladder search, to prove you´re playing against master ranked players and not some custom games against low leaguers or friends. There were so many things (on both sides) that really made me question if both of you are even above diamond. This seems more like a gold/platinum play for me to be honest. Or maybe at very best low diamond opponent playing random and not very familiar with zerg.

The reason of this is that the zerg goes for mutas, and his muta timing is 3 minute late and when he finally gets them out, he keeps suiciding them to turrets where you had plenty of holes in your main he could have abused. He knew you made that planetary at behind the rocks and should have felt comfortable just taking 3rd and 4th since you even had a bloody planetary at your ramp and no offensive capabilities. Similary your own play is really lacking, floating 2k gas for 5 minutes isn´t a good opening even if you´re intentionally saving up. Anyways talking anymore of this would give me a severe headache. Your idea is cute, but its horribly executed and your opponents are even worse.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 13 2012 22:21 GMT
#11
This is really not enough info for a guide, and even if it was I'm weary about how this would turn out given the last thread.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
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