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On October 26 2005 10:38 Jin wrote:
While Germany has publically admitted its wrongs for WW2, Japan has done NOTHING.
The Sino-Japanese War and WW2 that followed had some horrible atrocities committed by Japan. See Rape of Nanjing for example. Everyone knows about the concentration camps and what not, but hardly anyone knows what went on in East Asia.
Shrines are made for convicted war criminals, and it's like a slap in the face for China and Korea. Imagine the Jewish people forgiving Germans if the German government made statues of Hitler and denied they did anything wrong WW2 despite all the overwhelming evidence. Textbooks in Japan are censored by the gov't to remove any descriptions about Japanese attrocities. Germany has paid BILLIONS in reparations to war victims while Japan has paid NOTHING.
Most Chinese/Korean don't hate Japs for their race, but for their actions, or lack thereof.
Don't criticize about these issues when you are so ignorant.
this has more to do with the japanese government rather than the people. And i am not ignorant i am aware of what the japanese did to the chinese and other asian peoples throughout history (i am not aware of every specific incident, but more as a whole) Its still no reason to hate the young japanese people, just hate their government =)
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On October 26 2005 10:38 Jin wrote:
While Germany has publically admitted its wrongs for WW2, Japan has done NOTHING.
The Sino-Japanese War and WW2 that followed had some horrible atrocities committed by Japan. See Rape of Nanjing for example. Everyone knows about the concentration camps and what not, but hardly anyone knows what went on in East Asia.
Shrines are made for convicted war criminals, and it's like a slap in the face for China and Korea. Imagine the Jewish people forgiving Germans if the German government made statues of Hitler and denied they did anything wrong WW2 despite all the overwhelming evidence. Textbooks in Japan are censored by the gov't to remove any descriptions about Japanese attrocities. Germany has paid BILLIONS in reparations to war victims while Japan has paid NOTHING.
Most Chinese/Korean don't hate Japs for their race, but for their actions, or lack thereof.
Don't criticize about these issues when you are so ignorant.
so if the japanese government of 50 years after WWII would admit that their government back in the day made a couple of big mistakes and were acting kinda nasty, although we all know they have nothing to do with that, seeing everyone who did somethign wrong back then is already dead, all is forgiven?
besides, thats still no reason to be a racist is it? t_t
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Norway28848 Posts
jin, hating the japanese government is more than okay
I hate the american government too
and many other governments
there are still really really many americans I like though, even among those who voted for the government I hate. they're not connected.
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i just read the first post and the last one.
Interesting how the subject can change 
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Yeah, the main problem is that chinese/koreans are kinda taught to hate Japanese people in general, (educational system, parents, grandparents, etc.) without getting to the root of the problem. I personally don't have anything aganist Japanese people, but it really annoys me when people call chinese/korean people racist without fully understanding the situation.
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Braavos36401 Posts
On October 26 2005 10:38 Jin wrote:
While Germany has publically admitted its wrongs for WW2, Japan has done NOTHING.
The Sino-Japanese War and WW2 that followed had some horrible atrocities committed by Japan. See Rape of Nanjing for example. Everyone knows about the concentration camps and what not, but hardly anyone knows what went on in East Asia.
Shrines are made for convicted war criminals, and it's like a slap in the face for China and Korea. Imagine the Jewish people forgiving Germans if the German government made statues of Hitler and denied they did anything wrong WW2 despite all the overwhelming evidence. Textbooks in Japan are censored by the gov't to remove any descriptions about Japanese attrocities. Germany has paid BILLIONS in reparations to war victims while Japan has paid NOTHING.
Most Chinese/Korean don't hate Japs for their race, but for their actions, or lack thereof.
Don't criticize about these issues when you are so ignorant.
this is a pretty well educated forum, and there have been plenty of threads regarding the problems between Japan and Korea/China. i guarantee you there are very few people who are clueless about why the Chinese and Koreans harbor deep feelings of hate towards the Japanese.
everything in your post has been stated. everyone knows this, its in the fricken news. the Japanese Prime Minister just visited the Yasukuni Shrine last week, and it was reported on all the major news outlets.
however, YOU are the ignorant one if you can't separate the actions of a government and of political leaders fifty years ago with the actions of a single person today.
i'm chinese (born on the mainland), a huge supporter of revisionist history, and i studied a great deal about the racial implications of the War in the Pacific. i hate what the japanese did to my grandparents too, but to let that blind you into justifying racism on a single half-japanese boyfriend is just stupid.
edit: i just read your post, and "understanding" the situation (which most of the people posting do understand) doesn't justify the guy's racism even one bit.
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Braavos36401 Posts
On October 26 2005 11:44 Jin wrote:
Yeah, the main problem is that chinese/koreans are kinda taught to hate Japanese people in general, (educational system, parents, grandparents, etc.) without getting to the root of the problem. I personally don't have anything aganist Japanese people, but it really annoys me when people call chinese/korean people racist without fully understanding the situation.
Chinese and Koreans ARE racist towards the Japanese. what you're saying is that it's justified because of what the Japanese did. judging by what happened, it's understandable, but they're still racist.
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I was trying to make a point that a lot of flak towards Japanese people has nothing to do with their race, it's more about bitterness over unresolved issues from previous conflicts. Obviously nothing justifies racism, but I don't think anyone here is seriously racist.
I fully understand that many people here are exceedingly aware of current east asian relations, but judging from some of the posts made, it is clearly not everyone.
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Once again, I am not speaking on my behalf, but from a more hoi polloi point of view. In general, people tend to treat the actions of a government as the representive will of the people of a nation. This doesn't include everyone obviously, but I have met a fair share of people who depise Americans despite the fact the general public has little to do with how their government is acting.
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To reiterate, I am obviously not supporting racism in any form, or trying to justify racism. I merely think 'racist' is an incorrect label to pin upon the originator of this topic without fully understanding his social background, the state of mind of numerous chinese and korean people, and implications of the term.
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what the fuck, page 9 is nothing like page 1
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Oh,
let your sister do whatever she wants
your ultimate goal is her happiness
you can't read her mind or know what her makes her happy so let her live her own life
if you try and live it for her she will only hate you for it
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On October 26 2005 12:13 T______T wrote:
what the fuck, page 9 is nothing like page 1
rofl yeah im confused OO
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eri would you fuck your mother if she was sharon stone?
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Sweden33719 Posts
Hm, I thought the Japanese government apoligized more than once -_-
Though I guess them continuing to honour war criminals or whatever sort of makes it moot XD
P.S One hand typing so I'm being as short as possible ;p D.S
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On October 25 2005 20:02 jjun212 wrote:
k so my sister has a boyfriend
i hate him, i never even met him
but by looking at his picture
i can tell that he is ugly, poor, dresses like shit wearing those dirty old iron maiden shirts, (no offence to the people who dress like that, im just saying that it dosent match mine and my sisters style)
and he is half jap and half white
im not racist.. well maybe i am but i hate jap guys, if you were korean, you'd know the history, and even worse, he is a mixed fag
anyways, i usually dont have anything against japanese because people i meet are cool, and i know alotta mixed people
my favourite actress is kristin kreuk, my favourite hockey player is paul kariya and hes half jap and white too so i dont think thats a big issue but i use it against him anyways
and my sister told me that he wanted to get to know her first and take it slow, 2 days later i find out they kissed, wtf their so lucky their in vancouver, or else i'd go and fucking kick his ass
anyways, i dunno what to do, she continually says she loves me more than him, obviously she does but i wanna fuck that fag up so much, i swear i really hate him
Its maybe you sub-conciously love him?
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The Japanese supreme court rules the shrine visits unconstitutional and a breach of secularism (an argument which seems BS to me), but the PM visited the shrine in his capacity as a private citizen, which he should have every right to.
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Norway28848 Posts
hmm strafe that's a hard one
I don't think so but I would probably have fantasized about it at some point
I'm very happy my parents have sex though and I have heard them without being bothered too much before
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USA29055 Posts
Eri sat on his bed and jerked to it probably.
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Braavos36401 Posts
On October 26 2005 13:09 MoltkeWarding wrote:
The Japanese supreme court rules the shrine visits unconstitutional and a breach of secularism (an argument which seems BS to me), but the PM visited the shrine in his capacity as a private citizen, which he should have every right to.
he has every right to but he is a representative of the japanese government and the shrine represents a political statement. it's like gw or dick chaney going to a kkk meeting. are people from other countries going to think oh gee, they are private citizens it doesn't represent the US government's views?
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