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#32001
DarkLordOlli was just temp banned for 2 days by Nyovne.

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Reason: Can you please stop being so offensive to other people? It's starting to become a trend in your 1 moderation per two months history.
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July 01 2013 19:35 GMT
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That account was created on 2010-05-20 01:46:32 and had 157 posts.

Reason: Your posting os so obnoxious and annoying. Let's cut to the chase here.
Now you can add a perm ban to your list of achievements.
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July 01 2013 20:29 GMT
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July 01 2013 22:39 GMT
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Reason: Considering your poor posting history, no warning. You should know better.
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TL.net130 Posts
July 02 2013 00:27 GMT
#32005
Leporello was just temp banned for 2 days by Myles.

That account was created on 2011-01-04 05:59:57 and had 1742 posts.

Reason: You seem to have a knack for ad hominems, especially after already being warned in that topic before.
On July 02 2013 09:11 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 08:31 Dosey wrote:
On July 02 2013 08:19 Leporello wrote:
On July 02 2013 08:03 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On July 02 2013 07:36 Defacer wrote:
On July 02 2013 07:27 SKC wrote:
On July 02 2013 07:25 Defacer wrote:
On July 02 2013 07:15 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
Tragic for the Martins but I'm kinda starting to feel bad for Zimmerman. He has a history of being sympathetic towards blacks but is having his life ruined because of perceived racism on his part.


I don't feel bad for Zimmerman at all. He at least is getting his day in court, and is being tried by a court of law and his peers for his indiscretions

Martin was sentenced to death by Zimmerman.

It's like people are forgetting that he did technically kill a 17 year old who's only plans that night were to visit his dad. It might have been in self-defence but still. Worst. Neighborhood. Watch. Ever.

Assuming Zimmerman's words are true, Martin sentenced himself to death.


Well, that's when it becomes a question of morals. If someone you were following turns around and beats you up, does that mean he deserves to get shot in the chest? Punishment doesn't fit the crime, IMO.

George Zimmerman may be innocent, and is probably only guilty of defending himself in the heat of the moment. But personally, I don't think Trayvon deserved to die for for how he reacted.

It's a pitch black night with heavy rains. You're having your head dashed against the pavement after having your nose broken. You've been yelling for help for a good 40 secs but no one comes. At what point should you stop to consider whether or not to use deadly force?


Hmm, well before the fight happened GZ made a decision to bring a gun with him, when confronting a stranger with accusatory suspicions.

The gun has a safety switch on it. Either the safety was off the entire time GZ was in possession of it, or he had the time and ability to switch the safety off while in the midst of (allegedly) fighting for his life.

GZ had the time and luxury of ending the fight in this fatal manner. Trayvon, quite obviously, didn't. Again, we don't know what happened to start the fight, or how the fight went. The only facts we know are that GZ shot Trayvon, and that GZ had somehow sustained some injuries. We have no real witnesses as to how GZ sustained those injuries.

I understand that to claim murder under such cloudy circumstances is wrong. We can't prove GZ is a murderer. But he is certainly someone who should never be allowed to carry a gun. He certainly proved himself grossly incompetent, and that's the best that can be said about him.

I really don't care about this actual trial. It's actually meaningless in a lot of ways. Trayvon is dead, and GZ -- while I do think he may be guilty of simple manslaughter, he isn't a malicious killer. I don't worry about him to the point that I think he needs to be locked up, I just don't want this idiot ever following anyone with a gun ever again. I hope everyone can agree with that, at least.


@ the bold:
Wat? Have you never held a gun before, or are you trying to make the safety seem like some sort of complex mechanism for the purpose of your own agenda? The safety can literally be flicked with the thumb in a millisecond. Anyone trained with firearms is trained to immediately flick the safety off AS they are drawing their weapon.

Under the circumstances and given the evidence, I'd say GZ is exactly the type of person I'd want to be able to carry a gun. He screamed for help for a good 40 seconds and only fired his weapon after receiving substantial damage to his head/face while being pinned down and (allegedly) hearing a threat on his own life. Afterwards he kept his cool, waited for the police, and reported the incident to the police. You are talking as if the gun was sitting on his dash and he purposely grabbed for it before heading out while saying "I'm gonna get me a punk tonight" He was fucking wearing it as a means of protection.


I've actually fired guns of all kinds, from handguns, to an M249 MG. Yes, safeties are easy to flick off, but they exist for a reason -- you have to consciously flick that safety. GZ had a hand free, and was able to shoot Trayvon -- that is a fact. That he was actually defending himself -- that is NOT a fact. See the difference?

I'm glad you were there to witness it, to know that GZ was justified in shooting this guy. Seriously, have you given the police this testimony? Because the only facts I know of are that GZ followed a kid he didn't even know, and ended up shooting him.

GZ has clearly demonstrated he is not the type of person to be carrying a gun. Guns are for self-defense, not for following people that wear hoodies. GZ was only defending himself IF YOU BELIEVE HIS TESTIMONY -- which you obviously do, fully. Going by the facts, GZ was defending himself against a random stranger that he decided to follow. That is not a good gun owner. A responsible gun owner would've brought a witness or some backup, not confronted somebody by himself. GZ was told to wait for the police, he didn't. He went alone, and shot an unarmed man.

GZ is NOT a responsible gun owner, which is evidenced by the fact that he finds himself IN this situation. Responsible gun owners don't shoot unarmed people without witnesses.

Yes, that's a really intelligent person. You must be a genius too.
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TL.net130 Posts
July 02 2013 06:00 GMT
#32006
TrollPolice was just temp banned for 2 days by JBright.

That account was created on 2013-05-07 09:19:52 and had 40 posts.

Reason: Please don't necro a year-old thread and backseat moderate.
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TL.net130 Posts
July 02 2013 06:25 GMT
#32007
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Reason: Advertising.
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TL.net130 Posts
July 02 2013 06:29 GMT
#32008
Thieving Magpie was just temp banned for 2 days by JBright.

That account was created on 2012-12-07 08:40:52 and had 2136 posts.

Reason: You were already warned earlier today for using loaded language in the Trayvon Martin thread. Cool off for a few days before commenting in there again.
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TL.net130 Posts
July 02 2013 10:18 GMT
#32009
AlienwareM14X was just banned by monk.

That account was created on 2013-07-02 18:41:19 and had 1 posts.

Reason: Previously banned user.
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TL.net130 Posts
July 02 2013 11:36 GMT
#32010
DidYuhim was just temp banned for 2 days by Plexa.

That account was created on 2011-09-18 22:23:53 and had 1062 posts.

Reason: Baseless bashing of Khaldor.
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TL.net130 Posts
July 02 2013 11:36 GMT
#32011
Boonbag was just temp banned for 2 days by Plexa.

That account was created on 2008-03-21 21:33:10 and had 2193 posts.

Reason: Chill out no need to be so aggressive.
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TL.net130 Posts
July 02 2013 16:49 GMT
#32012
maybenexttime was just temp banned for 2 days by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2006-11-18 08:33:12 and had 3143 posts.

Reason: If you can't maintain a reasonable and objective level of discussion in political discussion threads without throwing out blanket insults towards several nationalities (invoking Godwin's law, calling people sheep because they don't agree with you, making assumptions, etc.), then don't post.
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TL.net130 Posts
July 02 2013 17:47 GMT
#32013
stroggozzz was just banned by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2013-07-02 20:49:49 and had 1 posts.

Reason: Stick to one account.
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TL.net130 Posts
July 02 2013 17:48 GMT
#32014
rogerket was just banned by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2013-07-03 02:27:41 and had 2 posts.

Reason: Hacker.
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TL.net130 Posts
July 02 2013 17:51 GMT
#32015
GorbadTheGreat was just temp banned for 2 days by GMarshal.

That account was created on 2013-07-02 00:24:40 and had 15 posts.

Reason: No flaming in discussions.
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TL.net130 Posts
July 02 2013 18:13 GMT
#32016
correiapl was just temp banned for 1 week by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2013-03-07 08:05:51 and had 3 posts.

Reason: 3 posts, 2 bans. Improve please.
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July 02 2013 19:01 GMT
#32017
Ingsoc101 was just banned by KwarK.

That account was created on 2013-05-25 08:57:39 and had 39 posts.

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July 02 2013 19:54 GMT
#32018
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July 02 2013 19:55 GMT
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July 02 2013 19:56 GMT
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