Trayvon Martin 17yo Kid Shot to Death - Page 59

On March 24 2012 03:07 Defacer wrote:
Obama isn't allowed to give his real opinion before an investigation. If this goes to trial, and Obama is on record as siding one way or the other, it can lead to a mistrial.

On March 24 2012 03:14 Fyrewolf wrote:
Just found some interesting other articles, both by same author

Sanford police chief under fire amid Trayvon Martin case
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/21/v-fullstory/2706876/sanford-commission-votes-no-confidence.html
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Witnesses in Trayvon Martin death heard cries before shot
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/15/v-fullstory/2696446/trayvon-martin-case.html
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Also, did anyone else find what Giraldo Rivera said incredibly racist? He called wearing a hoodie "stylizing yourself as a gansta". Note: He seemed completely oblivious that it was raining on the night in question.

RIVERA: When you, when you see a kid walking — Juliet — when you see a kid walking down the street, particularly a dark skinned kid like my son Cruz, who I constantly yelled at when he was going out wearing a damn hoodie or those pants around his ankles. Take that hood off, people look at you and they — what do they think? What’s the instant identification, what’s the instant association?

STEVE DOOCY (co-host): Uh-oh.

“But I am urging the parents of black and Latino youngsters particularly to not let their children go out wearing hoodies. I think the hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon Martin’s death as George Zimmerman"
"When you see a black or latino youngster particularly on the street you walk to the other side of the street, you try to avoid that confrontation."
"You're not gonna rehabilitate the hoodie."

There are jackets that may have hoods, and sweaters that may have hoods(hoodies). Shelter for your head /= suspicious.

What he is really saying is that wearing a hood while BLACK is a problem.

On March 24 2012 02:20 Leporello wrote:


Agreed. Some people cherry-pick facts about the case, and make gross assumptions. Then, after getting called out on that, they resort to trying to show us all what a bad person Trayvon was, selling weed and dropping out of school.

Fun fact: Selling weed and dropping out of school doesn't cost you your constitutional rights, afforded to you as a human being. I didn't know that shooting an unarmed kid was more acceptable if you can prove the kid had character defects.

On March 24 2012 03:25 BlackJack wrote:
ow that shooting an unarmed kid was more acceptable if you can prove the kid had character defects.

The problem with accusing people of cherry picking facts is that the people most guilty of this are those in the media that are pushing a certain narrative. Most stories omit anything that is beneficial to Zimmerman's defense and anything that is harmful to Trayvon's character. Why should Zimmerman not be entitled to a fair shake? Why is it okay to talk about Zimmerman's past arrest but not Trayvon's suspension? All you have to do is question why Trayvon was suspended and suddenly you're guilty of smearing a murder victim.

All you have to do is read the thread to see what a piss poor job the media has done regarding this case. Starting with the fact that so many people believed Zimmerman to be white. The fact that Zimmerman had wounds from the altercation that very few know about because so few stories talk about them. The fact that it was believed that Zimmerman called police 46 in the past year when it was 46 times in the past 10 years. etc. etc.

Ask what people think of the Trayvon Martin case and they will probably tell you it's about a black honor roll student gunned down in cold blood while he begged for his life by white racist vigilante. It demonstrates for the 10,000th time how terrible our media is, especially this new pseudo-social media that consists of bloggers on their couch circulating the same false stories over and over instead of caring to find the facts.

On March 24 2012 03:25 Lockitupv2 wrote:

Looks like we have the male version of "Dressing provocatively will lead to increased interest from men."

Ask what people think of the Trayvon Martin case and they will probably tell you it's about a black honor roll student gunned down in cold blood while he begged for his life by white racist vigilante. It demonstrates for the 10,000th time how terrible our media is, especially this new pseudo-social media that consists of bloggers on their couch circulating the same false stories over and over instead of caring to find the facts.

The Martin family also criticized the Sanford police department for failing to identify their son more quickly. Martin's body was left in the morgue for three days, classified as a "John Doe." The family charges that officers didn't bother to ask neighbors if they recognized Martin, who had been staying with his father in the neighborhood.

If anybody watching this show -- either live or on the Internet -- doesn’t believe that if an African-American shot a 17-year-old white boy walking through a neighborhood carrying ice tea and Skittles…if they do not believe that an arraignment would be scheduled by the next morning for the African-American shooter and that the white boy’s family would be called immediately…that an officer would actually drive to the white boy’s home and sit down with the parents on the couch and console them because they have lost a 17-year-old son. If you don’t believe that this case and the handling of this case by the people in Florida has nothing to do with race, you are living in a fantasy world.

On March 24 2012 04:02 DemigodcelpH wrote:


This is the truth. He chased him down for no reason, and then killed him. The boy only had skittles and an ice tea, and Zimmerman clearly had mental issues, a "little man" complex, and some bias.

On March 24 2012 03:35 Inex wrote:


So having a grown man shoot down an unarmed teen is a media exaggeration? How about the fact that this dude wasn't supposed to do anything until the police came? Does he think he is some sort of authority figure or that he thinks he can judge people based on their appearance? He is the adult in this situation, he is the one who has to assess the situation and avoid conflict at all costs, but it seems he was trying to be a hero.

On March 24 2012 04:02 DemigodcelpH wrote:


This is the truth. He chased him down for no reason, and then killed him. The boy only had skittles and an ice tea, and Zimmerman clearly had mental issues, a "little man" complex, and some bias.

On March 24 2012 03:35 Inex wrote:


So having a grown man shoot down an unarmed teen is a media exaggeration? How about the fact that this dude wasn't supposed to do anything until the police came? Does he think he is some sort of authority figure or that he thinks he can judge people based on their appearance? He is the adult in this situation, he is the one who has to assess the situation and avoid conflict at all costs, but it seems he was trying to be a hero.

edit: please people. stop using the term cold-blooded murder/killer. its pretty clear you guys don't know what that term means, or are just using it to sensationalize the issues. this wasn't a calculated act; it was somebody who considered himself to be the neighborhood protector and went where he probably shouldn't have gone

On March 24 2012 04:28 Zaqwe wrote:

When they neglect to mention that the shot was fired while Zimmerman was on the ground on his back screaming for help with Trayvon punching him in the head, how can it not be an exaggeration? You yourself have just exaggerated the story in the same way.

Anyone who tries to tell this story and just conveniently leaves out the part where Zimmerman is being pummeled and in danger of serious brain injuries or death is being dishonest.

When they neglect to mention that the shot was fired while Zimmerman was on the ground on his back screaming for help with Trayvon punching him in the head, how can it not be an exaggeration? You yourself have just exaggerated the story in the same way.

Anyone who tries to tell this story and just conveniently leaves out the part where Zimmerman is being pummeled and in danger of serious brain injuries or death is being dishonest.

no evidence supports that the shot was fired from that position, AND there are witnesses who said that zimmerman was straddling the kid right after the gunshot. now unless he fired the gun pushed the kid off him and then straddled him, there is no way that is true.

On March 24 2012 04:28 Zaqwe wrote:

When they neglect to mention that the shot was fired while Zimmerman was on the ground on his back screaming for help with Trayvon punching him in the head, how can it not be an exaggeration? You yourself have just exaggerated the story in the same way.

Anyone who tries to tell this story and just conveniently leaves out the part where Zimmerman is being pummeled and in danger of serious brain injuries or death is being dishonest.

On March 24 2012 04:30 awesomoecalypse wrote:


Zimmerman repeatedly called 911 over several years, frequently expressing suspicion at black people and kids for doing things like "looking suspicious" and "hanging around". The night he saw Trayvon, the 911 dispatcher told him not to follow, and he disobeyed her, and can be clearly heard on the call saying "fucking coon". He then goes after a 17 year old kid holding candy who is actively trying to flee from him, who he has more than 100 lbs on, pulls out his gun and kills him.

How is that anything but 1st degree murder, and quite possibly a hate crime?

The night he saw Trayvon the dispatcher told him he didn't need to follow, but he was under no obligation not to follow. It's not a crime to follow someone and he was well within his rights.

Then he gets out of his truck and when he is on foot he gets knocked to the ground

He screams for help, but nobody helps him. The only way he could defend himself at that point was to use his pistol.