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On March 23 2012 23:33 FallDownMarigold wrote:
It's kind of pathetic that people consider sensationalist bullshit such as a facebook post on "yo nigga needa plant" and a picture of middle fingers as indicative of...anything? I mean, weren't people bitching about pointing out that Zimmerman failed out of a "Citizen's" police academy, and how that's just a sensationalist item intended to paint Zimmerman in a bad light?
I mean really, what relevance does a picture of a random guy on facebook asking for weed have? I mean, so what? Does that mean Trayvon actually sells weed? No, it's just fucking irrelevant, period.
Maybe because he didnt fail out of a CPA?
Him selling weeds, breaks the "He was a perfect little angel." Just like him being suspended from school. Poor school attendance etc etc
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On March 23 2012 23:15 rouzga wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 19:46 Zaqwe wrote:On March 23 2012 19:40 BlackJack wrote:On March 23 2012 19:36 Zaqwe wrote:On March 23 2012 19:19 Kickboxer wrote:On March 23 2012 18:29 swiftazn wrote:
dont know if this has been mentioned recently or not but i'm sick and tired of people saying that getting punched over and over and attacked by an unarmed 140lb teenager isn't worth enough of a reason for self defense. FIRST OF ALL you can easily kill someone with your fists. there are stress points on the human body that one can injure. how about collapsing a windpipe eh?
No. You can't murder a person, especially not a child, because they are hitting you. Let alone if you have been following them around and harassing them. Maybe in the states this reasoning somehow makes sense at the time but it's incredibly shortsighted and if everyone thought like that the human race would exterminate itself in a matter of decades. Us Europeans can't even fucking believe it. Here, anyone carrying a gun in public is normally considered a lunatic and a potential murderer. You don't "defend" yourself by killing an unarmed person. Kids get into fights all the time. An average high school yard sees several fights a month. The purpose of a fight isn't to kill someone, most of the time it's not even to injure them it's just to settle a score or put them in their place. The purpose of firing a gun is exclusively to end a person's life. This is a grown man who shot an unarmed child. Everything else is moot and the SYG law in itself is ridiculously retarded. You can't solve violence by legalizing murder. How does this stop anyone from harassing a person constantly until they flip out and then killing them in "self defense"? I'd like a honest answer because this seems completely feasible under such laws and a foolproof way of getting away with premeditated murder. "Child"? Are you kidding me? He was a 6'2" football playing young man who sold cannabis. Seriously, "child"? It's almost like you are aware you have no argument and have to resort to this emotionally charged absurdity. Here are some more recent photographs than what the media has been showing: + Show Spoiler +In a way you are right. You can't murder someone who has you pinned to the ground and is beating you in the face because that is clearly self defense, not murder. where did you hear that trayvon sold cannabis? His friend is trying to contact him to purchase weed in that facebook conversation. How is getting approached by someone making you a drugdealer? If the police would ask me if i have drugs, does that make me a drugdealer? O_o
If you ask someone else if they want drugs that makes you a drug dealer. And its pretty clear in that Facebook convo that he asks his friends if they want some drugs. Pot is still illegal in this country and he might have been asking for mushrooms. Both of which make him a criminal and someone you don't want randomly strolling around where you live when its raining.
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On March 23 2012 23:39 Lockitupv2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 23:33 FallDownMarigold wrote:
It's kind of pathetic that people consider sensationalist bullshit such as a facebook post on "yo nigga needa plant" and a picture of middle fingers as indicative of...anything? I mean, weren't people bitching about pointing out that Zimmerman failed out of a "Citizen's" police academy, and how that's just a sensationalist item intended to paint Zimmerman in a bad light?
I mean really, what relevance does a picture of a random guy on facebook asking for weed have? I mean, so what? Does that mean Trayvon actually sells weed? No, it's just fucking irrelevant, period. Maybe because he didnt fail out of a CPA? Him selling weeds, breaks the "He was a perfect little angel." Just like him being suspended from school. Poor school attendance etc etc
Okay, so you are affirming that it's just to paint Martin in a worse light, aka sensationalism. Just like pointing out the fact (whether or not you agree) that Zimmerman bitched out of a "Citizen's" police academy is simply intended to paint Zimmerman in a more negative light by the other end of the extreme.
On March 23 2012 23:45 Lockitupv2 wrote:
Its not true that he failed out of a CPA, I dont even think thats possible considering most classes last the weekend.
That's like.... not at all important to the point. Stopped attending, failed out, bitched out, whatever you want to call it. Moving on...
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On March 23 2012 23:41 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 23:39 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:33 FallDownMarigold wrote:
It's kind of pathetic that people consider sensationalist bullshit such as a facebook post on "yo nigga needa plant" and a picture of middle fingers as indicative of...anything? I mean, weren't people bitching about pointing out that Zimmerman failed out of a "Citizen's" police academy, and how that's just a sensationalist item intended to paint Zimmerman in a bad light?
I mean really, what relevance does a picture of a random guy on facebook asking for weed have? I mean, so what? Does that mean Trayvon actually sells weed? No, it's just fucking irrelevant, period. Maybe because he didnt fail out of a CPA? Him selling weeds, breaks the "He was a perfect little angel." Just like him being suspended from school. Poor school attendance etc etc Okay, so you are affirming that it's just to paint Martin in a worse light, aka sensationalism. Just like pointing out the fact (whether or not you agree) that Zimmerman bitched out of a "Citizen's" police academy is simply intended to paint Zimmerman in a more negative light by the other end of the extreme.
Its a fact that he was suspended from school.
Its not true that he failed out of a CPA, I dont even think thats possible considering most classes last the weekend.
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On March 23 2012 23:37 FallDownMarigold wrote:Hahhahahh. Really? Read what you just linked. The kid suffered 1st degree burns, aka, burns on the same scale of intensity as a sunburn. And you're saying people should give a fuck about that story, vs. a story in which a kid is murdered (or killed, however you want to term it)? That's not nearly as serious of a story if the boy simply got a minor injury. Don't you see the difference? Death vs. minor injury, thus they are not at all similar stories.
Rather funny isn't it, the dude proclaims that all this attention in regards to the Travyon Martin case indicates that racism is alive and well, when his post proves that far more effectively. Ahh the veil of ignorance, how ironic you can be.
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On March 23 2012 23:40 Sermokala wrote:
Pot is still illegal in this country and he might have been asking for mushrooms. Both of which make him a criminal and someone you don't want randomly strolling around where you live when its raining.
Okay, seriously. Hahahahhahahahha. Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal? That's like, child logic, or something. I don't even..
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On March 23 2012 23:37 FallDownMarigold wrote:Hahhahahh. Really? Read what you just linked. The kid suffered 1st degree burns, aka, burns on the same scale of intensity as a sunburn. And you're saying people should give a fuck about that story, vs. a story in which a kid is murdered (or killed, however you want to term it)? That's not nearly as serious of a story if the boy simply got a minor injury. Don't you see the difference? Death vs. minor injury, thus they are not at all similar stories.
Do you realize that this is actually a hate crime, while this one isnt, yet this story makes the headlines?
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On March 23 2012 23:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 23:40 Sermokala wrote:
Pot is still illegal in this country and he might have been asking for mushrooms. Both of which make him a criminal and someone you don't want randomly strolling around where you live when its raining. Okay, seriously. Hahahahhahahahha. Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal? That's like, child logic, or something. I don't even..
Soliciting drugs is a crime.
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On March 23 2012 23:40 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 23:15 rouzga wrote:On March 23 2012 19:46 Zaqwe wrote:On March 23 2012 19:40 BlackJack wrote:On March 23 2012 19:36 Zaqwe wrote:On March 23 2012 19:19 Kickboxer wrote:On March 23 2012 18:29 swiftazn wrote:
dont know if this has been mentioned recently or not but i'm sick and tired of people saying that getting punched over and over and attacked by an unarmed 140lb teenager isn't worth enough of a reason for self defense. FIRST OF ALL you can easily kill someone with your fists. there are stress points on the human body that one can injure. how about collapsing a windpipe eh?
No. You can't murder a person, especially not a child, because they are hitting you. Let alone if you have been following them around and harassing them. Maybe in the states this reasoning somehow makes sense at the time but it's incredibly shortsighted and if everyone thought like that the human race would exterminate itself in a matter of decades. Us Europeans can't even fucking believe it. Here, anyone carrying a gun in public is normally considered a lunatic and a potential murderer. You don't "defend" yourself by killing an unarmed person. Kids get into fights all the time. An average high school yard sees several fights a month. The purpose of a fight isn't to kill someone, most of the time it's not even to injure them it's just to settle a score or put them in their place. The purpose of firing a gun is exclusively to end a person's life. This is a grown man who shot an unarmed child. Everything else is moot and the SYG law in itself is ridiculously retarded. You can't solve violence by legalizing murder. How does this stop anyone from harassing a person constantly until they flip out and then killing them in "self defense"? I'd like a honest answer because this seems completely feasible under such laws and a foolproof way of getting away with premeditated murder. "Child"? Are you kidding me? He was a 6'2" football playing young man who sold cannabis. Seriously, "child"? It's almost like you are aware you have no argument and have to resort to this emotionally charged absurdity. Here are some more recent photographs than what the media has been showing: + Show Spoiler +In a way you are right. You can't murder someone who has you pinned to the ground and is beating you in the face because that is clearly self defense, not murder. where did you hear that trayvon sold cannabis? His friend is trying to contact him to purchase weed in that facebook conversation. How is getting approached by someone making you a drugdealer? If the police would ask me if i have drugs, does that make me a drugdealer? O_o If you ask someone else if they want drugs that makes you a drug dealer. And its pretty clear in that Facebook convo that he asks his friends if they want some drugs. Pot is still illegal in this country and he might have been asking for mushrooms. Both of which make him a criminal and someone you don't want randomly strolling around where you live when its raining.
What the...
Please show me the convo. The convo we are talking about he is ONLY writing "NO PHON"
You are mixing the guys in the convo up. He is the 2nd, not the one asking for something and stuff
And even then, the other guy isn't " its pretty clear in that Facebook convo that he asks his friends if they want some drugs" like you say
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On March 23 2012 23:48 Lockitupv2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 23:37 FallDownMarigold wrote:Hahhahahh. Really? Read what you just linked. The kid suffered 1st degree burns, aka, burns on the same scale of intensity as a sunburn. And you're saying people should give a fuck about that story, vs. a story in which a kid is murdered (or killed, however you want to term it)? That's not nearly as serious of a story if the boy simply got a minor injury. Don't you see the difference? Death vs. minor injury, thus they are not at all similar stories. Do you realize that this is actually a hate crime, while this one isnt, yet this story makes the headlines?
Yeah, just because you say that the Martin killing isn't a hate crime, it must be true!
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On March 23 2012 23:50 Lockitupv2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 23:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:40 Sermokala wrote:
Pot is still illegal in this country and he might have been asking for mushrooms. Both of which make him a criminal and someone you don't want randomly strolling around where you live when its raining. Okay, seriously. Hahahahhahahahha. Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal? That's like, child logic, or something. I don't even.. Soliciting drugs is a crime.
The sky is blue. Are we just listing random, unrelated facts now? I don't get the point of your comment. It has no relevance to what I said.
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On March 23 2012 23:54 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 23:50 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:40 Sermokala wrote:
Pot is still illegal in this country and he might have been asking for mushrooms. Both of which make him a criminal and someone you don't want randomly strolling around where you live when its raining. Okay, seriously. Hahahahhahahahha. Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal? That's like, child logic, or something. I don't even.. Soliciting drugs is a crime. The sky is blue.
Well at least we both agree that you were wrong to say that soliciting drugs isnt a crime.
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On March 23 2012 23:52 GARO wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 23:48 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:37 FallDownMarigold wrote:Hahhahahh. Really? Read what you just linked. The kid suffered 1st degree burns, aka, burns on the same scale of intensity as a sunburn. And you're saying people should give a fuck about that story, vs. a story in which a kid is murdered (or killed, however you want to term it)? That's not nearly as serious of a story if the boy simply got a minor injury. Don't you see the difference? Death vs. minor injury, thus they are not at all similar stories. Do you realize that this is actually a hate crime, while this one isnt, yet this story makes the headlines? Yeah, just because you say that the Martin killing isn't a hate crime, it must be true!
Or it might not be a hate crime....because it isnt? Is that possible?
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On March 23 2012 23:56 Lockitupv2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 23:54 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:50 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:40 Sermokala wrote:
Pot is still illegal in this country and he might have been asking for mushrooms. Both of which make him a criminal and someone you don't want randomly strolling around where you live when its raining. Okay, seriously. Hahahahhahahahha. Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal? That's like, child logic, or something. I don't even.. Soliciting drugs is a crime. The sky is blue. Well at least we both agree that you were wrong to say that soliciting drugs isnt a crime.
I didn't say that. I said that asking for mushrooms is not illegal. If I step into the square and yell "I WANT MUSHROOMS" am I a criminal? That was what I said, and nothing else. You are a fool for inferring that I claimed "selling/buying/obtaining drugs isn't illegal", i mean, how did you infer that, i'm baffled. Go ahead and explain your thought process lol, i'm curious to see how one conflates "asking for mushrooms is not illegal" with "selling/buying/obtaining/soliciting/etc drugs is not illegal"
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On March 23 2012 18:59 BlackJack wrote:
Does anyone have a source that Zimmerman is 5'2"?
Police report has Zimmerman at 5'9. I think that is most likely closer to the truth than 5'2, although probably not exact either.
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On March 23 2012 23:58 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 23:56 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:54 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:50 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:40 Sermokala wrote:
Pot is still illegal in this country and he might have been asking for mushrooms. Both of which make him a criminal and someone you don't want randomly strolling around where you live when its raining. Okay, seriously. Hahahahhahahahha. Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal? That's like, child logic, or something. I don't even.. Soliciting drugs is a crime. The sky is blue. Well at least we both agree that you were wrong to say that soliciting drugs isnt a crime. I didn't say that. I said that asking for mushrooms is not illegal. If I step into the square and yell "I WANT MUSHROOMS" am I a criminal? That was what I said, and nothing else. You are a fool for inferring that I claimed "selling drugs isn't illegal", i mean, how in the hell did you infer that, i'm baffled
That is not even close to what you said and considering most mushrooms arent drugs, the worst you're gonna get is strange looks.Shouting, "I WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE SOME PSILOCYBIN MUSCHROOMS" would be a bit different.
Asking for mushrooms is solicitation for drugs, which is a crime.
Hence I can say that "Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal?" is true and does in fact make you a criminal.
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he was suspended from school, and might have smoked weed. clearly he was deserving of the death penalty. stupid libs.
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On March 24 2012 00:02 Lockitupv2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 23:58 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:56 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:54 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:50 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:40 Sermokala wrote:
Pot is still illegal in this country and he might have been asking for mushrooms. Both of which make him a criminal and someone you don't want randomly strolling around where you live when its raining. Okay, seriously. Hahahahhahahahha. Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal? That's like, child logic, or something. I don't even.. Soliciting drugs is a crime. The sky is blue. Well at least we both agree that you were wrong to say that soliciting drugs isnt a crime. I didn't say that. I said that asking for mushrooms is not illegal. If I step into the square and yell "I WANT MUSHROOMS" am I a criminal? That was what I said, and nothing else. You are a fool for inferring that I claimed "selling drugs isn't illegal", i mean, how in the hell did you infer that, i'm baffled That is not even close to what you said
heres what I said, maybe you didn't read it:
"Okay, seriously. Hahahahhahahahha. Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal? That's like, child logic, or something. I don't even.."
you were saying?
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On March 24 2012 00:05 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 00:02 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:58 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:56 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:54 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:50 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:40 Sermokala wrote:
Pot is still illegal in this country and he might have been asking for mushrooms. Both of which make him a criminal and someone you don't want randomly strolling around where you live when its raining. Okay, seriously. Hahahahhahahahha. Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal? That's like, child logic, or something. I don't even.. Soliciting drugs is a crime. The sky is blue. Well at least we both agree that you were wrong to say that soliciting drugs isnt a crime. I didn't say that. I said that asking for mushrooms is not illegal. If I step into the square and yell "I WANT MUSHROOMS" am I a criminal? That was what I said, and nothing else. You are a fool for inferring that I claimed "selling drugs isn't illegal", i mean, how in the hell did you infer that, i'm baffled That is not even close to what you said heres what I said, maybe you didn't read it: "Okay, seriously. Hahahahhahahahha. Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal? That's like, child logic, or something. I don't even.." you were saying?
Asking for mushrooms is solicitation for drugs which is a crime.
Hence, "Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal?" is true. So yes that would make you a criminal.
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On March 24 2012 00:09 Lockitupv2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 24 2012 00:05 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 00:02 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:58 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:56 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:54 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:50 Lockitupv2 wrote:On March 23 2012 23:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:On March 23 2012 23:40 Sermokala wrote:
Pot is still illegal in this country and he might have been asking for mushrooms. Both of which make him a criminal and someone you don't want randomly strolling around where you live when its raining. Okay, seriously. Hahahahhahahahha. Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal? That's like, child logic, or something. I don't even.. Soliciting drugs is a crime. The sky is blue. Well at least we both agree that you were wrong to say that soliciting drugs isnt a crime. I didn't say that. I said that asking for mushrooms is not illegal. If I step into the square and yell "I WANT MUSHROOMS" am I a criminal? That was what I said, and nothing else. You are a fool for inferring that I claimed "selling drugs isn't illegal", i mean, how in the hell did you infer that, i'm baffled That is not even close to what you said heres what I said, maybe you didn't read it: "Okay, seriously. Hahahahhahahahha. Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal? That's like, child logic, or something. I don't even.." you were saying? Asking for mushrooms is solicitation for drugs which is a crime. Hence, "Asking for mushrooms makes you a criminal?" is true. So yes that would make you a criminal.
Why are you even continuing this conversation? First, Trayvon didn't solicit drugs, so your point is.. pointless. One person asking about a plant does not a drug dealer make. Its a silly leap of logic that actually has zero bearing on the case at all.
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