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Keep it on topic.
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On March 13 2012 07:35 iNcontroL wrote:
NOTE: I got warned for low content so I made sure to include a lot more content in my additional post including my attempt at russian. I appreciate your guys support in trying to make everything as serious as is possible <3 I wouldn't want any jokes on TL either, need to keep this place overly serious and really dire.
Cmone dont get emo over this 5 retards that are searching for every possibility to diss u, keep on trollin.
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On March 13 2012 07:35 iNcontroL wrote:
NOTE: I got warned for low content so I made sure to include a lot more content in my additional post including my attempt at russian. I appreciate your guys support in trying to make everything as serious as is possible <3 I wouldn't want any jokes on TL either, need to keep this place overly serious and really dire.
Was that Boris Kutchyoukockof?
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On March 13 2012 07:33 iNcontroL wrote:
Guys, I'm want make many apology.
In 1st of my post I maybe mock ed someone for reason I know not good.
I try and write russian now, so maybe we feel same together.
Ello, My name is boris Marushinonov. I feel this is problem of my people's and I make, mm, some adjustmints to how you say, my words. If still you feel we need talk? I let akfourseven decide your fate.
Good luck.
OMG lol i love you incontrol!
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On March 13 2012 07:35 iNcontroL wrote:
NOTE: I got warned for low content so I made sure to include a lot more content in my additional post including my attempt at russian. I appreciate your guys support in trying to make everything as serious as is possible <3 I wouldn't want any jokes on TL either, need to keep this place overly serious and really dire.
Jokes =/= shitty mockery. Can't you at least get that ?
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On March 13 2012 07:35 iNcontroL wrote:
NOTE: I got warned for low content so I made sure to include a lot more content in my additional post including my attempt at russian. I appreciate your guys support in trying to make everything as serious as is possible <3 I wouldn't want any jokes on TL either, need to keep this place overly serious and really dire.
There is nothing wrong with jokes, but if the extent of your humor is mocking other people for their poor English or their "funny" accents, maybe you should spend more time working on your jokes?
Keep reaching for the lowest common denominator Geoff! Stay classy.
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On March 13 2012 05:18 eSaharaVerdi wrote:
I'm apologizing about bad post's on teamliquid.net and team-aaa.com about team electronic Sahara .
I wrote that esahara didnt payed me salary for last 2 month after i left team .That way they would punish me for i announced my leave without telling esahara's direction . That was reasons for me do thing like this , one of this was my deal with Ryad Abour - esahara CEO .
Than i wrote some posts about they wont pay me salary up and something . But today i recieved money for last 2 month . So we go each other ways with piece .
My apologizes to community about all this sitaution , i was very care about my money , and now i recieved it . I made mistakes so take bad reputation like my deals , not like esahara's .
Nice to see that the money situation is all cleared up and everything is just water under the bridge. Good luck in future endeavors!
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so many ppl have so many sticks up their butts in this thread. go eSahara!
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On March 13 2012 07:33 iNcontroL wrote:Guys, I'm want make many apology. + Show Spoiler +In 1st of my post I maybe mock ed someone for reason I know not good.
I try and write russian now, so maybe we feel same together.
Ello, My name is boris Marushinonov. I feel this is problem of my people's and I make, mm, some adjustmints to how you say, my words. If still you feel we need talk? I let akfourseven decide your fate. Good luck.
I'm usually with you on your humor and the community's inability to get it, but I think you're in the wrong on this one. How many languages do you speak?
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There is an overwhelming amount of Romanians in this thread.
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what people find funny differs from person to person. one laughs, another frowns. life will go on
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On March 13 2012 05:18 eSaharaVerdi wrote:
I'm apologizing about bad post's on teamliquid.net and team-aaa.com about team electronic Sahara .
I wrote that esahara didnt payed me salary for last 2 month after i left team .That way they would punish me for i announced my leave without telling esahara's direction . That was reasons for me do thing like this , one of this was my deal with Ryad Abour - esahara CEO .
Than i wrote some posts about they wont pay me salary up and something . But today i recieved money for last 2 month . So we go each other ways with piece .
My apologizes to community about all this sitaution , i was very care about my money , and now i recieved it . I made mistakes so take bad reputation like my deals , not like esahara's .
it's still a bad post, grammar mistakes everywhere and bad punctuation.
lol! well I appreciate your apology even though I have no reason to be angry at you because I never saw said posts.
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On March 13 2012 07:36 legaton wrote:A post from E-Sahara: + Show Spoiler +Tout le staff eSahara tient tout d’abord à réitérer ses remerciements à Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov pour tout le travail qu’il a effectué au sein de la structure et tout le temps qu’il a passé à gérer notre équipe Starcraft 2. Néanmoins, il est bon d’expliquer pourquoi nous en sommes arrivés là aujourd’hui. À ce titre, nous souhaitons rappeler qu’il y a maintenant quelques semaines, des accrochages sont apparus entre Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov et certains joueurs de l'équipe. Juha-Matti "Satiini" Backström en a d’ailleurs fait les frais il y a quelques jours, puisqu'il a été renvoyé par Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov, et ce sans raison apparente. Après enquête, il s'est avéré que Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov a bel et bien abusé de ses pouvoirs de manager afin de régler un conflit personnel avec Juha-Matti "Satiini" Backström, et cela au détriment des intérêts d’eSahara. Une telle pratique étant inacceptable, l’équipe dirigeante d’eSahara a décidé de réintégrer Juha-Matti "Satiini" Backström dans l’effectif vendredi 9 mars dernier. Suite à ce malencontreux événement, Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov, qui n'a bien évidemment pas apprécié que son autorité soit remise en question, a décidé de faire savoir son mécontentement en rédigeant un communiqué indiquant son départ, et cela sans nous en avoir informés au préalable. Nous apprendrons dans ce communiqué que son départ s’accompagne de celui-ci d’ Artem "Verdi" Avramenko, dont par ailleurs, nous ne comprenons toujours pas les raisons, Artem "Verdi" Avramenko ayant toujours bénéficié de l’intégralité des avantages offerts par notre structure, de la même manière que tous les joueurs portant les couleurs d’eSahara. La raison évoquée dans le communiqué est le non-paiement de son salaire, or Artem "Verdi" Avramenko, qui est eSahara depuis maintenant 6 mois, n’a jamais eu de problème au niveau du versement de sa rémunération, et, nous tenons à le rappeler, il en est de même pour les 15 autres joueurs de notre effectif. Les raisons du départ de Verdi restent floues. Nous savons cependant qu'il a reçu une offre plus attrayante de la part d'une autre équipe. Nous pensons donc que le motif "salaire" n’était qu’un prétexte pour rejoindre sa nouvelle équipe. Nous avions pourtant placé de grandes espérances dans le potentiel d' Artem "Verdi" Avramenko, en lui laissant par deux fois la chance de réintégrer la structure, alors même qu'il nous avait quittés dans des circonstances similaires, c'est-à-dire sans raisons que nous jugions valables. La position d’eSahara est donc très claire. Nous estimons tout bonnement inadmissibles que Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov et Artem "Verdi" Avramenko aient décidé de rédiger un communiqué concernant leurs départs, sans en avoir préalablement informé quiconque dans l'équipe dirigeante d'eSahara. Cette action a grandement porté préjudice à notre image, c'est donc pour cette raison que nous avons décidé de geler le salaire de Artem "Verdi" Avramenko jusqu'à nouvel ordre. Cette affaire prouve une fois encore à quel point Artem "Verdi" Avramenko et Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov manquent de professionnalisme. Ils ne méritaient pas la confiance et l’investissement que nous avions placés en eux. eSahara fournit à ses joueurs un encadrement et une logistique professionnelle afin d'atteindre des objectifs élevés. Cette annonce a grandement secoué l’ensemble de notre équipe, puisqu'aucun joueur ou membre du staff ne s'était plaint jusqu’alors des conditions offertes par la structure. Merci d'avoir pris la peine de lire ces explications. Direction eSahara - eSahara.net http://www.team-aaa.com/news-21200-0-1-maj_esahara_publie_son_communique.htmlE-Sahara explains there was a conflict between one of their players, Satinii, and the manager of the SC2 section, Test. Test abused his position to expel Satinii from the section. After reviewing the actions of both of them, they (read, the owner of E-Sahara) reintegrated Satinii as the manager didn't had the power to take those kind of decisions. Test decided to leave E-Sahara, and he left with his Verdi, a friend of him. E-Sahara has some really strong words against Verdi, and Test, calling them unprofessional and untrustworthy. They explain they did pay Verdi's salaries, and that they know Verdi received a better offer from another team. Therefore, they think Verdi's announcement was doctored to facilitate his departure from the structure. E-sports, as dirty as real sports, with 0,0001% the money.
I'll translate directly in english eSahara's statement :
The whole eSahara staff deeply thanks Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov for the work he put through for our organisation and the time he took to manage our SC2 team.
Still, it'd be good to explain why we came to such lengths today. Thus we would like to remind that a few weeks ago, problems happened between Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov and some of our players. Juha-Matti "Satiini" Backström got the short end of the stick from those a few days ago, since he was fired by Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov without any obvious reason.
After investigating, we found out Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov abused his powers as a manager in order to solve a personal problem with Juha-Matti "Satiini" Backström, to the detriment of eSahara's interests.
Such conduct being unacceptable, the board of eSahara decided to take back Juha-Matti "Satiini" Backström in the team on friday, march 3rd.
Following this regrettable incident, Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov, unhappy that his authority had been overrun/compromised, released a statement announcing his departure from the team, without informing us beforehand.
We learned in this statement the departure of Artem "Verdi" Avramenko, and to this day we still don't know why he left, Artem "Verdi" Avramenko having been provided with all the advantages our organization offered, as have all the players under our flag. The reason he gave was the non-payment of his salary, while we never had any problems with paying the wages of Artem "Verdi" Avramenko, who has been in eSahara for the last 6 months, as well as our 15 other players, may we add.
The reason for Verdi's departure are still blurry. We do know he has received a better offer from another team. We were thus thinking he used the "salary" reason to join his new team. We were eager to see his potential develop in eSahara, letting him rejoin the team twice, while he had left us in the same way, without any reasons we found worthy.
eSahara's stance is this very clear. We find it unacceptable that Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov and Artem "Verdi" Avramenko published statements regarding their departure of the team, without having warned anyone in eSahara's management. This damaged our public image, that's why we decided to withhold Verdi's salary until further notice.
This further proves the lack of professionnalism show by Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov and Artem "Verdi" Avramenko. They didn't deserve our investment and trust.
eSahara provides their players with logistics and managing on a professionnal level to allow them to fulfill high objectives. This statement shook greatly our whole team, since no player or staff member ever complained of the conditions we provided them with.
Thanks for reading our explanations.
eSahara's board - eSahara.net
Sorry if some sentences come out a bit weird, it's been quite some time since I haven't used "official" terms and expressions ><
@ iNcontrol : the first time was funny, the others are NOT.
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On March 13 2012 07:33 iNcontroL wrote:
Guys, I'm want make many apology.
In 1st of my post I maybe mock ed someone for reason I know not good.
I try and write russian now, so maybe we feel same together.
Ello, My name is boris Marushinonov. I feel this is problem of my people's and I make, mm, some adjustmints to how you say, my words. If still you feel we need talk? I let akfourseven decide your fate.
Good luck.
Because it's OK to be racist on EG, as long as you don't use the N-word.
He tried his best at English, and it wasn't that great, so what? Not everyone in this global community has great English.
Glad to see some of this eSahara "drama" get cleared up though, it had me pretty puzzled.
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On March 13 2012 07:33 iNcontroL wrote:
Guys, I'm want make many apology.
In 1st of my post I maybe mock ed someone for reason I know not good.
I try and write russian now, so maybe we feel same together.
Ello, My name is boris Marushinonov. I feel this is problem of my people's and I make, mm, some adjustmints to how you say, my words. If still you feel we need talk? I let akfourseven decide your fate.
Good luck.
I have to admit that this was funny and that I like incontrol. But I don't think that making fun of someone you don't know just cause he doesn't have a good english is stupid.
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jesus, people CANNOT take jokes today.
In all honesty people need to chillax broskis, i mean you guys do understand this is normal incontrol (and not racist..)
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On March 13 2012 08:11 Ressonance wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 07:33 iNcontroL wrote:
Guys, I'm want make many apology.
In 1st of my post I maybe mock ed someone for reason I know not good.
I try and write russian now, so maybe we feel same together.
Ello, My name is boris Marushinonov. I feel this is problem of my people's and I make, mm, some adjustmints to how you say, my words. If still you feel we need talk? I let akfourseven decide your fate.
Good luck. I have to admit that this was funny and that I like incontrol. But I don't think that making fun of someone you don't know just cause he doesn't have a good english is stupid.
But i don't think?
Do you or do you not think it's stupid?
I agree it's stupid, yet i also found it hilarious.
On March 13 2012 08:10 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 07:33 iNcontroL wrote:
Guys, I'm want make many apology.
In 1st of my post I maybe mock ed someone for reason I know not good.
I try and write russian now, so maybe we feel same together.
Ello, My name is boris Marushinonov. I feel this is problem of my people's and I make, mm, some adjustmints to how you say, my words. If still you feel we need talk? I let akfourseven decide your fate.
Good luck. Because it's OK to be racist on EG, as long as you don't use the N-word. He tried his best at English, and it wasn't that great, so what? Not everyone in this global community has great English. Glad to see some of this eSahara "drama" get cleared up though, it had me pretty puzzled.
There is a difference between racism and a joke. Maybe you found it funny, maybe you didn't.
Still people use the ''r'' word way to much. Stereotype jokes aren't racist, i know alot of you think that's it's the first step towards acceptance of racism but i disagree. Is it also an insult to White-Ra when we go around saying Special tektiks?! Hell no, who doesn't love the guy.
Good that the trouble has been sorted out :D. So tired of E-sports ''Drama'' =/
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Hmmm, I suppose this was an apology. Going back for second read...
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On March 13 2012 08:14 Zorgaz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 08:11 Ressonance wrote:On March 13 2012 07:33 iNcontroL wrote:
Guys, I'm want make many apology.
In 1st of my post I maybe mock ed someone for reason I know not good.
I try and write russian now, so maybe we feel same together.
Ello, My name is boris Marushinonov. I feel this is problem of my people's and I make, mm, some adjustmints to how you say, my words. If still you feel we need talk? I let akfourseven decide your fate.
Good luck. I have to admit that this was funny and that I like incontrol. But I don't think that making fun of someone you don't know just cause he doesn't have a good english is stupid. But i don't think? Do you or do you not think it's stupid? I agree it's stupid, yet i also found it hilarious.
The world is painted in shades of grey...
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On March 13 2012 08:08 Nouar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 07:36 legaton wrote:A post from E-Sahara: + Show Spoiler +Tout le staff eSahara tient tout d’abord à réitérer ses remerciements à Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov pour tout le travail qu’il a effectué au sein de la structure et tout le temps qu’il a passé à gérer notre équipe Starcraft 2. Néanmoins, il est bon d’expliquer pourquoi nous en sommes arrivés là aujourd’hui. À ce titre, nous souhaitons rappeler qu’il y a maintenant quelques semaines, des accrochages sont apparus entre Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov et certains joueurs de l'équipe. Juha-Matti "Satiini" Backström en a d’ailleurs fait les frais il y a quelques jours, puisqu'il a été renvoyé par Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov, et ce sans raison apparente. Après enquête, il s'est avéré que Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov a bel et bien abusé de ses pouvoirs de manager afin de régler un conflit personnel avec Juha-Matti "Satiini" Backström, et cela au détriment des intérêts d’eSahara. Une telle pratique étant inacceptable, l’équipe dirigeante d’eSahara a décidé de réintégrer Juha-Matti "Satiini" Backström dans l’effectif vendredi 9 mars dernier. Suite à ce malencontreux événement, Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov, qui n'a bien évidemment pas apprécié que son autorité soit remise en question, a décidé de faire savoir son mécontentement en rédigeant un communiqué indiquant son départ, et cela sans nous en avoir informés au préalable. Nous apprendrons dans ce communiqué que son départ s’accompagne de celui-ci d’ Artem "Verdi" Avramenko, dont par ailleurs, nous ne comprenons toujours pas les raisons, Artem "Verdi" Avramenko ayant toujours bénéficié de l’intégralité des avantages offerts par notre structure, de la même manière que tous les joueurs portant les couleurs d’eSahara. La raison évoquée dans le communiqué est le non-paiement de son salaire, or Artem "Verdi" Avramenko, qui est eSahara depuis maintenant 6 mois, n’a jamais eu de problème au niveau du versement de sa rémunération, et, nous tenons à le rappeler, il en est de même pour les 15 autres joueurs de notre effectif. Les raisons du départ de Verdi restent floues. Nous savons cependant qu'il a reçu une offre plus attrayante de la part d'une autre équipe. Nous pensons donc que le motif "salaire" n’était qu’un prétexte pour rejoindre sa nouvelle équipe. Nous avions pourtant placé de grandes espérances dans le potentiel d' Artem "Verdi" Avramenko, en lui laissant par deux fois la chance de réintégrer la structure, alors même qu'il nous avait quittés dans des circonstances similaires, c'est-à-dire sans raisons que nous jugions valables. La position d’eSahara est donc très claire. Nous estimons tout bonnement inadmissibles que Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov et Artem "Verdi" Avramenko aient décidé de rédiger un communiqué concernant leurs départs, sans en avoir préalablement informé quiconque dans l'équipe dirigeante d'eSahara. Cette action a grandement porté préjudice à notre image, c'est donc pour cette raison que nous avons décidé de geler le salaire de Artem "Verdi" Avramenko jusqu'à nouvel ordre. Cette affaire prouve une fois encore à quel point Artem "Verdi" Avramenko et Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov manquent de professionnalisme. Ils ne méritaient pas la confiance et l’investissement que nous avions placés en eux. eSahara fournit à ses joueurs un encadrement et une logistique professionnelle afin d'atteindre des objectifs élevés. Cette annonce a grandement secoué l’ensemble de notre équipe, puisqu'aucun joueur ou membre du staff ne s'était plaint jusqu’alors des conditions offertes par la structure. Merci d'avoir pris la peine de lire ces explications. Direction eSahara - eSahara.net http://www.team-aaa.com/news-21200-0-1-maj_esahara_publie_son_communique.htmlE-Sahara explains there was a conflict between one of their players, Satinii, and the manager of the SC2 section, Test. Test abused his position to expel Satinii from the section. After reviewing the actions of both of them, they (read, the owner of E-Sahara) reintegrated Satinii as the manager didn't had the power to take those kind of decisions. Test decided to leave E-Sahara, and he left with his Verdi, a friend of him. E-Sahara has some really strong words against Verdi, and Test, calling them unprofessional and untrustworthy. They explain they did pay Verdi's salaries, and that they know Verdi received a better offer from another team. Therefore, they think Verdi's announcement was doctored to facilitate his departure from the structure. E-sports, as dirty as real sports, with 0,0001% the money. I'll translate directly in english eSahara's statement : Show nested quote +The whole eSahara staff deeply thanks Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov for the work he put through for our organisation and the time he took to manage our SC2 team.
Still, it'd be good to explain why we came to such lengths today. Thus we would like to remind that a few weeks ago, problems happened between Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov and some of our players. Juha-Matti "Satiini" Backström got the short end of the stick from those a few days ago, since he was fired by Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov without any obvious reason.
After investigating, we found out Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov abused his powers as a manager in order to solve a personal problem with Juha-Matti "Satiini" Backström, to the detriment of eSahara's interests.
Such conduct being unacceptable, the board of eSahara decided to take back Juha-Matti "Satiini" Backström in the team on friday, march 3rd.
Following this regrettable incident, Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov, unhappy that his authority had been overrun/compromised, released a statement announcing his departure from the team, without informing us beforehand.
We learned in this statement the departure of Artem "Verdi" Avramenko, and to this day we still don't know why he left, Artem "Verdi" Avramenko having been provided with all the advantages our organization offered, as have all the players under our flag. The reason he gave was the non-payment of his salary, while we never had any problems with paying the wages of Artem "Verdi" Avramenko, who has been in eSahara for the last 6 months, as well as our 15 other players, may we add.
The reason for Verdi's departure are still blurry. We do know he has received a better offer from another team. We were thus thinking he used the "salary" reason to join his new team. We were eager to see his potential develop in eSahara, letting him rejoin the team twice, while he had left us in the same way, without any reasons we found worthy.
eSahara's stance is this very clear. We find it unacceptable that Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov and Artem "Verdi" Avramenko published statements regarding their departure of the team, without having warned anyone in eSahara's management. This damaged our public image, that's why we decided to withhold Verdi's salary until further notice.
This further proves the lack of professionnalism show by Vlad "TeSt" Bulatov and Artem "Verdi" Avramenko. They didn't deserve our investment and trust.
eSahara provides their players with logistics and managing on a professionnal level to allow them to fulfill high objectives. This statement shook greatly our whole team, since no player or staff member ever complained of the conditions we provided them with.
Thanks for reading our explanations.
eSahara's board - eSahara.net Sorry if some sentences come out a bit weird, it's been quite some time since I haven't used "official" terms and expressions >< @ iNcontrol : the first time was funny, the others are NOT.
I found them all funny dont worry
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Wonder how many people on this site avoid a ban for trolling in the way Incontrol does oh so very often.
Anyways, glad that eS managed to work out their issues. Props to parties involved for being honest and working it out.
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