Orb, racist remarks on ladder and personal stream - Page 53

On March 09 2012 09:48 dAPhREAk wrote:

thats not a witch hunt. witch hunts are where people are accused of witchcraft and everyone throws bullshit claims in there to support it (none of which are actually true, or even related to witchcraft). orb was accused of using insensitive language, and for the most part it looks it is true as he has admitted it.

On March 09 2012 09:47 HeeroFX wrote:
well tonights EG master cup cast is by incontrol and machine

On March 09 2012 09:34 CCa1ss1e wrote:


I agree.. In my opinion.. it doesn't matter if he's streaming on his own time or not.. he represents for EG and eSports.. this was completely unnecessary. I raged a lot in BW BGH and UT99.. but this whole being in the spotlight thing is so much different. I'd EASILY be able to restrain myself from explosions like that.. I'd just be so damned happy to be involved in esports, even at his level. While I re-read this, it seems difficult. I mean, sure, I guess he IS on his own time.. but streaming seems like a mix of work/play.. I dunno what I'm trying to say, but, if it were me and I was streaming, even to only a dozen people.. if I was involved in eSports like orb and I was laddering, while streaming.. I'd be pretty damned careful.

Anyway.. may the force be with you.

XD

On March 09 2012 09:49 quistador wrote:
Does anyone else think it's funny that the use of the word "nigger" makes you racists?

Dumb people be dumb... there is a lot more that goes into racism, and orb has not come close.

On March 09 2012 09:51 Shebuha wrote:

That's going to be nice, thanks!

This thread is a storm of crazy. lol ohh Orb...

On March 09 2012 09:29 mapleleafs791 wrote:


This is the truth but Orb isnt some random guy anymore. Im black and while i am not offended to the point of raging i have lost some respect for him.

1. If you make racist jokes (which i do) you do them in private with people that actually know your not racist.

2. Calling someone a jew for being cheap or black for listing to hip hop a shitton is different than calling someone a stupid kike / fucking nigger when your pissed at them and are trying to be intentionally demeaning. That is inexcusable.

3. If you dont understand the context of black people using the n word around each other then get out. I NEVER use the n word and i dont like it, but a black person saying IS different from another race saying it for a reason. Trying to justify its use by saying i hear black comics and rap artists saying it is stupid. Iv heard white comics make black jokes and they were well received context and reputation matter ALOT.

If he said "lol my friends so jewish he didnt pick up the tab" its poking fun at racial stereotypes in the right environment.
If he said "fucking jewish piece of shit nigger strat" (which is pretty much what he did) its much different.

As little as this actually offends me, reading the responses/rationale of people in this thread leads my to one conclusion.
TL is full of young white kids that are either to immature to understand whats going on or people really take racism too lightly.

I make gay/black/asian jokes and i dont think someone should be crucified for a private statement, but a gay/black/asian jokes (even if it is stereotype based) is much different than calling someone a fucking nigger/jew/faggot for no reason other than to demean/offend them. And when you represent the community shit like this doesn't fly.

I still dont think he is racist but he has lost alot of my respect if he needs to resort to racial slurs every time he loses. It seems pretty immature. Destiny is the same for me and since i dont watch either of their streams i dont really care since i can ignore it. But he represents SC2 and EG so i do have a problem with it.

TLDR: Race shit is always touchy, if you a public figure you cant EVER do it without expecting backlash so be careful. I dont think orb and destiny are racist but i dont have alot of respect for people that try to defend using racial/sexual slurs to crush someone spirits. Race jokes im ok with but calling someone a fucking (insert racial term) when your mad at them is ridiculous. Calling someone a jew for begin cheap is alot different than calling someone a piece of shit kike because your pissed at them. Additionally, sponsors care so you cant just run your mouth when your're attached to a company

Edit: I think alot of people are overreacting, but alot of people are also under reacting

On March 09 2012 09:53 gruff wrote:

Some people are arguing that raging in a game using offensive language doesn't make one a racist (which a lot of people are saying he is). From that perspective it is a witch hunt.

On March 09 2012 09:53 Energizer wrote:


Taking bets for the next caster to get castrated...

My money is on Doa *eyeballs viciously*

On March 09 2012 09:53 Mr Showtime wrote:
If that's who he is, fine. That's okay. There are impulsive and angry people in the community already. He'll just be another. I'm unclear as to his relationship with EG prior to this incident. I'm assuming that he is employed.

If that is the case, and I were Alex, he'd be fired already. That kind of behavior is unacceptable, and I would never want someone like that to represent my organization. It's not just what he did on ladder. It's everything after that. Specifically, an inability to take responsibility for his own actions. Childish, immature, unprofessional, unacceptable.

Again, everything he did isn't the worst thing in the world, but I would never have him represent my organization. He's fine to go on and do his own thing.

On March 09 2012 09:54 skatblast wrote:
He said he was going to go pack abowl aka smoke weed but there no issues about that!? lol i couldnt imagine an employeer wanting everybody to know that about there employees doing illegal drugs

On March 09 2012 09:34 Ressonance wrote:

Oh, so you're saying that he can be racist while casting since nobody force you to watch his content. And that would be true if he wasn't with EG and had no relation to any sponsors.

On March 09 2012 09:53 instantdry wrote:
looks like Teamliquid is the new Sherdog