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Huk and IdrA in Code A; "Zerg doesn't beat Toss" - Page 2

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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
January 29 2012 21:59 GMT
#21
On January 30 2012 06:55 Sliver wrote:
Zzzz same shit every day from IdrA. Get better instead of whining please, it got old years ago.

Cheer up like HuK. ^_^


Well said, perhaps just a bit too blunt, but I agree. This mindset is not a positive quality you want to see in a professional athlete/competitor, and it seriously got old to be honest.
Ornithorynquez
Profile Joined August 2009
430 Posts
January 29 2012 22:00 GMT
#22
IdrA is such a funny guy.
I have to return some videotapes.
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
January 29 2012 22:12 GMT
#23
On January 30 2012 06:56 CoR wrote:
even IF protoss is winning RIGHT NOW vs zerg, since idra is whining since beginning that p is op, even the time when z won 70+% no one can take him serious anymore about anything he says


That's why protoss have been doing terribly vs z right?

[image loading]
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
January 29 2012 22:12 GMT
#24
And by "all the pros" he means 2 of the zergs, while Protoss players (notably genius) expressed similar difficulties vs Zerg.
stormchaser
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1009 Posts
January 29 2012 22:12 GMT
#25
On January 30 2012 06:59 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 06:57 CameronJ wrote:
How can you say "IdrA never stops whining" when literally every OTHER zerg says the same?


ask stephano

Yeah because stephano totally knows how to beat MC, Genius, JYP, in a zvp /sarcasm
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
January 29 2012 22:13 GMT
#26
On January 30 2012 07:12 stormchaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 06:59 Choboo wrote:
On January 30 2012 06:57 CameronJ wrote:
How can you say "IdrA never stops whining" when literally every OTHER zerg says the same?


ask stephano

Yeah because stephano totally knows how to beat MC, Genius, JYP, in a zvp /sarcasm

lol this guy is using sarcasm
SaSe fan club manager
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
January 29 2012 22:14 GMT
#27
dudes, chill. What did you expect? Him saying everything is perfectly balanced? Don't we have enough people saying that? If he thinks ZvP is crap right now, then he has every right saying that if it's his opinion
zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
January 29 2012 22:14 GMT
#28
Idra has a relatively easy opponent and complains already. First P in BW, then T in SC2 and now P in SC2 is what he complains about, at least he's consistent.
fLDm
MK4512
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada938 Posts
January 29 2012 22:15 GMT
#29
On January 30 2012 06:59 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 06:57 CameronJ wrote:
How can you say "IdrA never stops whining" when literally every OTHER zerg says the same?


ask stephano


Stephano reportedly doesn't use mutas because he thinks they're 'too strong' vs protoss. Atleast that what totalbiscuit(?) or some other caster said while casting some EU inv,
Chill: "Please let us know when you will be streaming yourself eating a hat so I can put it on the calendar. Thanks."
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
January 29 2012 22:16 GMT
#30
On January 30 2012 07:14 Hardigan wrote:
dudes, chill. What did you expect? Him saying everything is perfectly balanced? Don't we have enough people saying that? If he thinks ZvP is crap right now, then he has every right saying that if it's his opinion

People are saying that his opinion hasn't changed in years so it was pretty much stating the obvious.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 29 2012 22:16 GMT
#31
On January 30 2012 07:14 Hardigan wrote:
dudes, chill. What did you expect? Him saying everything is perfectly balanced? Don't we have enough people saying that? If he thinks ZvP is crap right now, then he has every right saying that if it's his opinion


Nobody says that...
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
January 29 2012 22:16 GMT
#32
On January 30 2012 07:12 Energizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 06:56 CoR wrote:
even IF protoss is winning RIGHT NOW vs zerg, since idra is whining since beginning that p is op, even the time when z won 70+% no one can take him serious anymore about anything he says


That's why protoss have been doing terribly vs z right?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It's not like he didn't whine from March to November

I was hoping for a bit more insightful questions but that's nice to read
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
January 29 2012 22:17 GMT
#33
On January 30 2012 07:14 Hardigan wrote:
dudes, chill. What did you expect? Him saying everything is perfectly balanced? Don't we have enough people saying that? If he thinks ZvP is crap right now, then he has every right saying that if it's his opinion


Theres a difference between stating an opinion and "stating a fact". And to support that "fact", he explains that all zergs are complaining as well.

Nobody would say anything if he said "i think its a bad matchup" or "i have problems against protoss" - instead he says "pvz is broken", although real facts/statistics show otherwise.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
January 29 2012 22:17 GMT
#34
*Yawn*

IdrA never changes...
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
January 29 2012 22:17 GMT
#35
On January 30 2012 07:12 Energizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 06:56 CoR wrote:
even IF protoss is winning RIGHT NOW vs zerg, since idra is whining since beginning that p is op, even the time when z won 70+% no one can take him serious anymore about anything he says


That's why protoss have been doing terribly vs z right?

[image loading]



Reading comprehension is your friend.



You do realize that the poster you quoted was basically saying that Idra whines regardless of the situation, even when Z was completely dominating Protoss by a margin of 70% (and the graph you just posted just proves that point).
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
January 29 2012 22:19 GMT
#36
I thought IdrA was adopting a new attitude to all the balance stuff. Guess not, too bad.
ionONE
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany605 Posts
January 29 2012 22:19 GMT
#37
maybe he should talk after a game, not before hands, so if he loss ... "i sad toss is imba" ... yes idra
JANGBI never forget
Dbla08
Profile Joined March 2011
United States211 Posts
January 29 2012 22:19 GMT
#38
lol so many people hate idra for no reason at all.
that was the general opinion expressed by all the pros in the group selection as well.
you must hate the majority of the pro's in the gsl then too, quit hating for no reason like mindless sheep and actually think, the zvp match-up has been nerfed 3 times in a row for zerg (the patches obviously didn't have fucking up the matchup in mind, but this is just what happens in the development of a good rts.) with immortal range increase, infestors getting raped up the butthole by the nerf stick with neural parasite range to 7 and fungal dps getting reduced (which is so much bigger than people thought it would be, you need an extra fungal to kill almost every core unit other than marines and i think sentries) and protoss got cheaper upgrades.

all of these (plus the probably 40-60% fault that goes to maps, as in most balance situations) have added up to the match-up being very very hard for zerg compared to the 60-70% winrates the pro zergs (and a lot of lower leagues as well I'm sure) enjoyed before. i don't think it was necessary to make the protoss ups cheaper, other than shield upgrades omg so expensive before, and they're not good unless using very specific unit comps or super late game. i also think neural parasite was a micro inducing aspect of the game (which most agree, makes the game better as it allows skill to become more of a factor) when it had 9 range. it made infestors do things other than fungal and poop wish-we-were-as-cool-as-marines to make pseudo forcefields, when neuralling it then puts them at risk of being sniped, but not being killed before the np even lands while casting from the back of your army like now. and it forced protoss to tactically use blink, instead of either blinking everything forward, or blinking to keep as much damage on the shields as possible.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 29 2012 22:19 GMT
#39
Seems HuK has a thing for swedes:
"QP: Who is your favorite person to hang with outside of playing with at the SlayerS house?

HuK: Probably Kim (SaSe), Johan (NaNiwa), Hayder (HayprO), Jon (Jinro)."
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 29 2012 22:20 GMT
#40
On January 30 2012 07:15 MK4512 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2012 06:59 Choboo wrote:
On January 30 2012 06:57 CameronJ wrote:
How can you say "IdrA never stops whining" when literally every OTHER zerg says the same?


ask stephano


Stephano reportedly doesn't use mutas because he thinks they're 'too strong' vs protoss. Atleast that what totalbiscuit(?) or some other caster said while casting some EU inv,

bling said it and he lives with stephano/they are really good friends
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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