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On January 30 2012 06:55 Sliver wrote: Zzzz same shit every day from IdrA. Get better instead of whining please, it got old years ago.
Cheer up like HuK. ^_^
Well said, perhaps just a bit too blunt, but I agree. This mindset is not a positive quality you want to see in a professional athlete/competitor, and it seriously got old to be honest.
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IdrA is such a funny guy.
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On January 30 2012 06:56 CoR wrote: even IF protoss is winning RIGHT NOW vs zerg, since idra is whining since beginning that p is op, even the time when z won 70+% no one can take him serious anymore about anything he says
That's why protoss have been doing terribly vs z right?
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And by "all the pros" he means 2 of the zergs, while Protoss players (notably genius) expressed similar difficulties vs Zerg.
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On January 30 2012 06:59 Choboo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 06:57 CameronJ wrote: How can you say "IdrA never stops whining" when literally every OTHER zerg says the same?
ask stephano Yeah because stephano totally knows how to beat MC, Genius, JYP, in a zvp /sarcasm
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On January 30 2012 07:12 stormchaser wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 06:59 Choboo wrote:On January 30 2012 06:57 CameronJ wrote: How can you say "IdrA never stops whining" when literally every OTHER zerg says the same?
ask stephano Yeah because stephano totally knows how to beat MC, Genius, JYP, in a zvp /sarcasm lol this guy is using sarcasm
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dudes, chill. What did you expect? Him saying everything is perfectly balanced? Don't we have enough people saying that? If he thinks ZvP is crap right now, then he has every right saying that if it's his opinion
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Idra has a relatively easy opponent and complains already. First P in BW, then T in SC2 and now P in SC2 is what he complains about, at least he's consistent.
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On January 30 2012 06:59 Choboo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 06:57 CameronJ wrote: How can you say "IdrA never stops whining" when literally every OTHER zerg says the same?
ask stephano
Stephano reportedly doesn't use mutas because he thinks they're 'too strong' vs protoss. Atleast that what totalbiscuit(?) or some other caster said while casting some EU inv,
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On January 30 2012 07:14 Hardigan wrote: dudes, chill. What did you expect? Him saying everything is perfectly balanced? Don't we have enough people saying that? If he thinks ZvP is crap right now, then he has every right saying that if it's his opinion People are saying that his opinion hasn't changed in years so it was pretty much stating the obvious.
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On January 30 2012 07:14 Hardigan wrote: dudes, chill. What did you expect? Him saying everything is perfectly balanced? Don't we have enough people saying that? If he thinks ZvP is crap right now, then he has every right saying that if it's his opinion
Nobody says that...
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On January 30 2012 07:12 Energizer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 06:56 CoR wrote: even IF protoss is winning RIGHT NOW vs zerg, since idra is whining since beginning that p is op, even the time when z won 70+% no one can take him serious anymore about anything he says That's why protoss have been doing terribly vs z right? + Show Spoiler +
It's not like he didn't whine from March to November
I was hoping for a bit more insightful questions but that's nice to read
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On January 30 2012 07:14 Hardigan wrote: dudes, chill. What did you expect? Him saying everything is perfectly balanced? Don't we have enough people saying that? If he thinks ZvP is crap right now, then he has every right saying that if it's his opinion
Theres a difference between stating an opinion and "stating a fact". And to support that "fact", he explains that all zergs are complaining as well.
Nobody would say anything if he said "i think its a bad matchup" or "i have problems against protoss" - instead he says "pvz is broken", although real facts/statistics show otherwise.
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*Yawn*
IdrA never changes...
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On January 30 2012 07:12 Energizer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 06:56 CoR wrote: even IF protoss is winning RIGHT NOW vs zerg, since idra is whining since beginning that p is op, even the time when z won 70+% no one can take him serious anymore about anything he says That's why protoss have been doing terribly vs z right? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XII8Mh.png)
Reading comprehension is your friend.
You do realize that the poster you quoted was basically saying that Idra whines regardless of the situation, even when Z was completely dominating Protoss by a margin of 70% (and the graph you just posted just proves that point).
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I thought IdrA was adopting a new attitude to all the balance stuff. Guess not, too bad.
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maybe he should talk after a game, not before hands, so if he loss ... "i sad toss is imba" ... yes idra
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lol so many people hate idra for no reason at all. that was the general opinion expressed by all the pros in the group selection as well. you must hate the majority of the pro's in the gsl then too, quit hating for no reason like mindless sheep and actually think, the zvp match-up has been nerfed 3 times in a row for zerg (the patches obviously didn't have fucking up the matchup in mind, but this is just what happens in the development of a good rts.) with immortal range increase, infestors getting raped up the butthole by the nerf stick with neural parasite range to 7 and fungal dps getting reduced (which is so much bigger than people thought it would be, you need an extra fungal to kill almost every core unit other than marines and i think sentries) and protoss got cheaper upgrades.
all of these (plus the probably 40-60% fault that goes to maps, as in most balance situations) have added up to the match-up being very very hard for zerg compared to the 60-70% winrates the pro zergs (and a lot of lower leagues as well I'm sure) enjoyed before. i don't think it was necessary to make the protoss ups cheaper, other than shield upgrades omg so expensive before, and they're not good unless using very specific unit comps or super late game. i also think neural parasite was a micro inducing aspect of the game (which most agree, makes the game better as it allows skill to become more of a factor) when it had 9 range. it made infestors do things other than fungal and poop wish-we-were-as-cool-as-marines to make pseudo forcefields, when neuralling it then puts them at risk of being sniped, but not being killed before the np even lands while casting from the back of your army like now. and it forced protoss to tactically use blink, instead of either blinking everything forward, or blinking to keep as much damage on the shields as possible.
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Seems HuK has a thing for swedes:
"QP: Who is your favorite person to hang with outside of playing with at the SlayerS house?
HuK: Probably Kim (SaSe), Johan (NaNiwa), Hayder (HayprO), Jon (Jinro)."
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On January 30 2012 07:15 MK4512 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2012 06:59 Choboo wrote:On January 30 2012 06:57 CameronJ wrote: How can you say "IdrA never stops whining" when literally every OTHER zerg says the same?
ask stephano Stephano reportedly doesn't use mutas because he thinks they're 'too strong' vs protoss. Atleast that what totalbiscuit(?) or some other caster said while casting some EU inv, bling said it and he lives with stephano/they are really good friends
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