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Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
June 10 2014 12:37 GMT
#3241
If one team is playing like trash, I don't see why people saying that they play like trash is a problem.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 12:53:08
June 10 2014 12:52 GMT
#3242
On June 10 2014 21:37 Sakray wrote:
If one team is playing like trash, I don't see why people saying that they play like trash is a problem.

There is diffrent between saying this team/this player is terrible/trash and saying team is underpeforming.
Simple example: Monte isn't saying that Seraph is playing like trash, is terrible atm, he is saying that he is underperforming.
When he talks about TSM he doesn't use word underperforming. He talks how terrible they are.

It's hilarious that Regi is mad at Travis, because he 'leaked' to his coworkers that Ongamers is blacklisted.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 10 2014 13:21 GMT
#3243
Update on NiP: seems that NiP players have been spotted duo queueing with a player called Eldiov. Since that's about as subtle as thorin on a chat show it's pretty much confirmed that voidle is the new NiP support. Alex_ich is also nienning it and has been playing irelia and jax recently in solo queue so he's staying top. As for the new mid I can't find anything solid, reddit has claims for both powerofevil (the mid laner for unicorns of love with the vast champion pool of syndra, syndri and ardnys) and exileh.
Glorious SEA doto
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 17:31:48
June 10 2014 17:31 GMT
#3244
On June 10 2014 22:21 Fusilero wrote:
Update on NiP: seems that NiP players have been spotted duo queueing with a player called Eldiov. Since that's about as subtle as thorin on a chat show it's pretty much confirmed that voidle is the new NiP support. Alex_ich is also nienning it and has been playing irelia and jax recently in solo queue so he's staying top. As for the new mid I can't find anything solid, reddit has claims for both powerofevil (the mid laner for unicorns of love with the vast champion pool of syndra, syndri and ardnys) and exileh.


Alex, why are you doing it, holy shit.
Guess, they just can't find legit toplaner because of it he stays there. Exileh will be legit addition, kid can grow immensely.

Meanwhile.
https://www.facebook.com/snoopeh/posts/545331772232943

Who doesn't want to hit it - Snoopeh isn't retiring, Helios is getting tried-out and they're going to use him this week probably to see how it goes. Considering that they have CLG and TSM, not as bad decision as it could be.
Basically, same situation as it was with Shacker. First time it helped Snoop a lot, i'm interested to see how it goes this time.


LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
June 10 2014 17:41 GMT
#3245
Complaining how western team never catch up, snoopeh should have benched 1 year ago, but ofc eg wouldnt to that still their most marketable player. Thats they are bottom 3 no excuses and wont give a sympathy to them.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 17:51:05
June 10 2014 17:50 GMT
#3246
On June 11 2014 02:41 skykh wrote:
Complaining how western team never catch up, snoopeh should have benched 1 year ago, but ofc eg wouldnt to that still their most marketable player. Thats they are bottom 3 no excuses and wont give a sympathy to them.


Benched for whom?
I thought, you're benching people only if you can find better player who can deliver results.

It's not there are shittons of junglers in EU/NA/CN and even in Korea, jungle is arguably most deficit position, even if you can't compare the calibers.
Even right now, Snoopeh isn't worst jungler in LCS at all.
Considering that almost everyone is flaming him since start of S3, it's something to think of.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 10 2014 17:51 GMT
#3247
On June 11 2014 02:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 02:41 skykh wrote:
Complaining how western team never catch up, snoopeh should have benched 1 year ago, but ofc eg wouldnt to that still their most marketable player. Thats they are bottom 3 no excuses and wont give a sympathy to them.


Benched for whom?
I thought, you're benching people only if you can find better player who can deliver results.

It's not there are shittons of junglers in EU/NA/CN and even in Korea, jungle is arguably most deficit position, even if you can't compare the calibers.


lol any challenger jungler would be an upgrade over snoopeh.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 18:01:52
June 10 2014 18:01 GMT
#3248
On June 11 2014 02:51 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 02:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On June 11 2014 02:41 skykh wrote:
Complaining how western team never catch up, snoopeh should have benched 1 year ago, but ofc eg wouldnt to that still their most marketable player. Thats they are bottom 3 no excuses and wont give a sympathy to them.


Benched for whom?
I thought, you're benching people only if you can find better player who can deliver results.

It's not there are shittons of junglers in EU/NA/CN and even in Korea, jungle is arguably most deficit position, even if you can't compare the calibers.


lol any challenger jungler would be an upgrade over snoopeh.


Show me those challenger junglers except for Amin and k0u then probably?
And Amin and k0u won't go to NA at least NOW.

Look into eyes of truth, there are almost none.
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Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
June 10 2014 18:37 GMT
#3249
On June 10 2014 21:52 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:37 Sakray wrote:
If one team is playing like trash, I don't see why people saying that they play like trash is a problem.

There is diffrent between saying this team/this player is terrible/trash and saying team is underpeforming.
Simple example: Monte isn't saying that Seraph is playing like trash, is terrible atm, he is saying that he is underperforming.
When he talks about TSM he doesn't use word underperforming. He talks how terrible they are.


Probably because when you tell on reddit what are the 4 jungle champs you can play, thus leading the opposite teams to ban 3 of them and pick the 4th, you are indeed terrible.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
June 10 2014 18:41 GMT
#3250
On June 11 2014 03:37 Sakray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 21:52 orzeu wrote:
On June 10 2014 21:37 Sakray wrote:
If one team is playing like trash, I don't see why people saying that they play like trash is a problem.

There is diffrent between saying this team/this player is terrible/trash and saying team is underpeforming.
Simple example: Monte isn't saying that Seraph is playing like trash, is terrible atm, he is saying that he is underperforming.
When he talks about TSM he doesn't use word underperforming. He talks how terrible they are.


Probably because when you tell on reddit what are the 4 jungle champs you can play, thus leading the opposite teams to ban 3 of them and pick the 4th, you are indeed terrible.

If I had any impact on a team, I'd tell them to ban junglers every game. Outside of LMQ playing Nunu and banouts against TSM, the only time nonbig-4 junglers were picked they lost in NALCS.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
June 10 2014 18:56 GMT
#3251
I hate the most players like Snoopeh even tho I was clg.eu fan.
This guy should have been kick out of the team at start of the s3. He didn't play at all before s3 start (the biggest change in jungle in history of league) and then came to LCS without any preperation and was stuck with s2 picks. Then for whole split didn't play soloq to improve mechanics/champion pool etc. After terrible split by him he went for 2-3 weeks vacation to China between splits and didn't play league again. Then he started donating double buff every game in next split. Rest everyone knows.

Now he is crying on facebook how poor he is and that he lost balance in his life, because he is playing 14 hours per day and Korean is taking his job. What a retard.

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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
June 10 2014 19:17 GMT
#3252
On June 11 2014 03:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 02:51 AsnSensation wrote:
On June 11 2014 02:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On June 11 2014 02:41 skykh wrote:
Complaining how western team never catch up, snoopeh should have benched 1 year ago, but ofc eg wouldnt to that still their most marketable player. Thats they are bottom 3 no excuses and wont give a sympathy to them.


Benched for whom?
I thought, you're benching people only if you can find better player who can deliver results.

It's not there are shittons of junglers in EU/NA/CN and even in Korea, jungle is arguably most deficit position, even if you can't compare the calibers.


lol any challenger jungler would be an upgrade over snoopeh.


Show me those challenger junglers except for Amin and k0u then probably?
And Amin and k0u won't go to NA at least NOW.

Look into eyes of truth, there are almost none.


Agreed. Snoopeh hasn't been underperforming this split. On the contrary he noticeably stepped it up since the relegations game. I don't think EG's team comp is the problem. (if anything I would say Innox is more questionable than Snoopeh) It doesn't surprise me Snoopeh's been practicing because he's noticeably better than he was in S3.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9137 Posts
June 10 2014 19:19 GMT
#3253
On June 10 2014 21:37 Sakray wrote:
If one team is playing like trash, I don't see why people saying that they play like trash is a problem.

Thorin calls Regi an ape and people act like onGamers has the moral high ground and is somehow entitled to receiving exclusive content from them. I've never liked TSM/Regi but this is absurd, it's their time and their club and unless they're contractually obligated to work with a certain news site or agency it's completely up to them. So if they feel like it's currently not beneficial for them to work with onGamers then I don't see the problem with that. It's no different than football clubs staying away from tabloids like The Sun or Dailly Mirror.
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
June 10 2014 21:05 GMT
#3254
On June 11 2014 02:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 02:41 skykh wrote:
Complaining how western team never catch up, snoopeh should have benched 1 year ago, but ofc eg wouldnt to that still their most marketable player. Thats they are bottom 3 no excuses and wont give a sympathy to them.


Benched for whom?
I thought, you're benching people only if you can find better player who can deliver results.

It's not there are shittons of junglers in EU/NA/CN and even in Korea, jungle is arguably most deficit position, even if you can't compare the calibers.
Even right now, Snoopeh isn't worst jungler in LCS at all.
Considering that almost everyone is flaming him since start of S3, it's something to think of.


So who is the worst jungler of the lcs? Brokenshard? Considering he played 3 year competitively and still CANT PLAY LEE SIN is for me that he cant adapt at all. The only reason reason why eg played better on the end of s3 is because he is abusing pre-nerf zac.

Here is you list of na lcs junglers:

Meteos,Noname,Dexter,Crumbzz,Brokenshard,IWD,Amazing so who is worst? IWD,Brokenshard?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 10 2014 21:46 GMT
#3255
On June 11 2014 06:05 skykh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 02:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On June 11 2014 02:41 skykh wrote:
Complaining how western team never catch up, snoopeh should have benched 1 year ago, but ofc eg wouldnt to that still their most marketable player. Thats they are bottom 3 no excuses and wont give a sympathy to them.


Benched for whom?
I thought, you're benching people only if you can find better player who can deliver results.

It's not there are shittons of junglers in EU/NA/CN and even in Korea, jungle is arguably most deficit position, even if you can't compare the calibers.
Even right now, Snoopeh isn't worst jungler in LCS at all.
Considering that almost everyone is flaming him since start of S3, it's something to think of.


So who is the worst jungler of the lcs? Brokenshard? Considering he played 3 year competitively and still CANT PLAY LEE SIN is for me that he cant adapt at all. The only reason reason why eg played better on the end of s3 is because he is abusing pre-nerf zac.

Here is you list of na lcs junglers:

Meteos,Noname,Dexter,Crumbzz,Brokenshard,IWD,Amazing so who is worst? IWD,Brokenshard?

Brokenshard and IWD are equally the worst junglers in the LCS atm.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
June 10 2014 21:48 GMT
#3256
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/nip-sign-ex-eg-analyst-as-new-coach-trying-out-voidle-exileh-coke-series/1100-1703/
NiP news: Exileh/Voidle confirmed and new coach.
sataNik[pG]
Profile Joined July 2003
Greece722 Posts
June 10 2014 22:01 GMT
#3257
On June 11 2014 02:51 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 02:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On June 11 2014 02:41 skykh wrote:
Complaining how western team never catch up, snoopeh should have benched 1 year ago, but ofc eg wouldnt to that still their most marketable player. Thats they are bottom 3 no excuses and wont give a sympathy to them.


Benched for whom?
I thought, you're benching people only if you can find better player who can deliver results.

It's not there are shittons of junglers in EU/NA/CN and even in Korea, jungle is arguably most deficit position, even if you can't compare the calibers.


lol any challenger jungler would be an upgrade over snoopeh.


Actually, I would blindly take any d1 50+ pointer over snoopeh, even aranae over snoopeh.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 22:05:22
June 10 2014 22:04 GMT
#3258
On June 11 2014 06:05 skykh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 02:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On June 11 2014 02:41 skykh wrote:
Complaining how western team never catch up, snoopeh should have benched 1 year ago, but ofc eg wouldnt to that still their most marketable player. Thats they are bottom 3 no excuses and wont give a sympathy to them.


Benched for whom?
I thought, you're benching people only if you can find better player who can deliver results.

It's not there are shittons of junglers in EU/NA/CN and even in Korea, jungle is arguably most deficit position, even if you can't compare the calibers.
Even right now, Snoopeh isn't worst jungler in LCS at all.
Considering that almost everyone is flaming him since start of S3, it's something to think of.


So who is the worst jungler of the lcs? Brokenshard? Considering he played 3 year competitively and still CANT PLAY LEE SIN is for me that he cant adapt at all. The only reason reason why eg played better on the end of s3 is because he is abusing pre-nerf zac.

Here is you list of na lcs junglers:

Meteos,Noname,Dexter,Crumbzz,Brokenshard,IWD,Amazing so who is worst? IWD,Brokenshard?


It's pretty hard to rate junglers currently, but while Snoopeh at least tries to make things happen, IWD, Brokenshard and Amazing are just doing basically nothing and NoName is just Chinese Snoopeh by himself.

On June 11 2014 06:48 orzeu wrote:
http://www.ongamers.com/articles/nip-sign-ex-eg-analyst-as-new-coach-trying-out-voidle-exileh-coke-series/1100-1703/
NiP news: Exileh/Voidle confirmed and new coach.


NiP are cursed to lose in Promotions now because Voidle will choke again.
CW will stay in LCS, God bless.
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ExceliosBeyond
Profile Joined September 2012
208 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 22:17:20
June 10 2014 22:05 GMT
#3259
On June 11 2014 03:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 02:51 AsnSensation wrote:
On June 11 2014 02:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On June 11 2014 02:41 skykh wrote:
Complaining how western team never catch up, snoopeh should have benched 1 year ago, but ofc eg wouldnt to that still their most marketable player. Thats they are bottom 3 no excuses and wont give a sympathy to them.


Benched for whom?
I thought, you're benching people only if you can find better player who can deliver results.

It's not there are shittons of junglers in EU/NA/CN and even in Korea, jungle is arguably most deficit position, even if you can't compare the calibers.


lol any challenger jungler would be an upgrade over snoopeh.


Show me those challenger junglers except for Amin and k0u then probably?
And Amin and k0u won't go to NA at least NOW.

Look into eyes of truth, there are almost none.


Do you watch much Challenger scene? Just curious. There are a lot of mechanically skilled Challenger players in NA and EU that could probably replace Snoopeh if teams would give them the time of day to help refine/fix solo queue/Challenger scene habits. Alliance did it with Shook last split.

I actually think the talent gap is less big than many people think (especially in NA, where everyone is absolutely convinced there is no talent), the problem is that solo queue/Challenger players pick up a lot of bad habits that take time to be ironed out. This is especially the case for junglers and top laners.
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 22:10:37
June 10 2014 22:05 GMT
#3260
OnGamers apology

The Regi debacle. Lawlz
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