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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 23:25:13
March 04 2014 23:23 GMT
#2161
On March 05 2014 05:35 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 04:35 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Small sample size or not, good teams don't lose to mediocre, non top 8 teams twice in a row. If it was only Najin or like Samsung then I could understand. But right now I'd pick gambit or roccat over KT B in an instant.

im played pretty well, and they are pretty strong. i understand ktb is trending down badly but in terms of absolute pwr u cant rly take a team like gambit over them. gmb would get destroyed in laning.


Inviting IM to tournament for 150k$ because of one game in Masters? Are you fucking serious.
KT Rolster is well-established name, it's basically same stuff like with TPA invite over ahQ for example.
Probably Carmac dreamed about inviting SKT T1 K, then suddenly it appeared that they're not able, Ozone failed on previous international showing but KT had free schedule.

Just ask yourself. You will come to watch inSec and Ryu? If i were able, i would have came for sure. Just to watch them raping every other team to rematch with Gambit.

And about losing to "mediocre teams".
LMQ was same meat in LPL as let's say, Curse are in LCS.
Even worse.
What can happen with LCS if you add there a "mediocre Korean Team like Najin or Samsung?" 27-1 with losing in last game because they will pick Heimerdinger, 1.01 coefficient bet?
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 05 2014 00:20 GMT
#2162
i was not talking about inviting im. pls what are you even responding to.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 05 2014 07:09 GMT
#2163
Considering how bad almost all these teams are playing right now, KT B isn't that out of place. Not sure why people wanted Roccat so badly. They've been on the downhill as well. I guess nothing beats fnatic's terribleness though.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
March 05 2014 07:21 GMT
#2164
Because ROCCAT is polish team and tournament is played in Poland? Also despite their recent loses they are still top of the EU LCS.
Pathetic Greta hater.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 05 2014 17:14 GMT
#2165
:O these groups, so excited.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 17:17:00
March 05 2014 17:15 GMT
#2166
Groups were announced for IEM.

iG, Fnatic, {M} and TPA in Group A.
KT B, Gambit, C9 and WE are in Group B.

Ohlol.
Considering Fnatic nowdays, iG and TPA have good shot in advancing from A.
Cloud 9 are on their road to lose to everyone as well.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
March 05 2014 17:17 GMT
#2167
It's unbelievable but I just can't get over the fact how salty I am that those aren't the old magical Bullets with Kakao. Still really hyped for the tournament, but a little bittersweet. Big YAY for double elim.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 17:24:34
March 05 2014 17:24 GMT
#2168
Man those groups look pretty solid. I am excite.
On March 06 2014 02:17 UmberBane wrote:
It's unbelievable but I just can't get over the fact how salty I am that those aren't the old magical Bullets with Kakao. Still really hyped for the tournament, but a little bittersweet. Big YAY for double elim.

You and me both brother.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 17:29:18
March 05 2014 17:29 GMT
#2169
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 05 2014 18:16 GMT
#2170
It's double elimination for groupstage or playoffs?
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 18:20:24
March 05 2014 18:19 GMT
#2171
Also I support Double Elimination. Playoffs I assume. Cause even with single elim you'll see each team play at least three times.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9246 Posts
March 05 2014 18:29 GMT
#2172
On March 06 2014 03:16 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
It's double elimination for groupstage or playoffs?

Group stage. Playoffs are single elimination
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 05 2014 18:42 GMT
#2173
On March 06 2014 03:29 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 03:16 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
It's double elimination for groupstage or playoffs?

Group stage. Playoffs are single elimination


Then it's kinda sad.
Especially if groupstages are bo1 lol.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 05 2014 20:01 GMT
#2174
Idc if C9 bombs out, all that matters is they get more international experience. People seem to forget they've been a pro team less than a year.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 23:03:23
March 05 2014 22:56 GMT
#2175
On March 06 2014 03:42 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 03:29 Dan HH wrote:
On March 06 2014 03:16 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
It's double elimination for groupstage or playoffs?

Group stage. Playoffs are single elimination


Then it's kinda sad.
Especially if groupstages are bo1 lol.


Bo1s are fine. If you really deserve to advance you shouldn't lose more than 1 game.

KT/iG
WE/Gambit

For Ro4 most likely. Though that might mean WE - iG for Ro4.
TranslatorBaa!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 06 2014 03:48 GMT
#2176
TPA will get smashed. Sorry.
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
March 06 2014 05:26 GMT
#2177
I really, really wish I could watch the old KTB in international competition but this will have to do
On March 05 2014 05:35 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 04:35 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Small sample size or not, good teams don't lose to mediocre, non top 8 teams twice in a row. If it was only Najin or like Samsung then I could understand. But right now I'd pick gambit or roccat over KT B in an instant.

im played pretty well, and they are pretty strong. i understand ktb is trending down badly but in terms of absolute pwr u cant rly take a team like gambit over them. gmb would get destroyed in laning.

I totally agree with this dude

I still think KTB has really strong lanes compared internationally, even if KTB is not what they used to be right now

also, ryu is not (and should never be, hopefully) worlds dade

please don't dismiss KTB just yet
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 06 2014 10:01 GMT
#2178
On March 06 2014 12:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
TPA will get smashed. Sorry.


We had heard this already once. All know how did it end.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 06 2014 11:46 GMT
#2179
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1zpmic/bjergsen_will_not_play_for_tsm_for_super_week/
Bjergsen out for another week due to visa delay issues
Glorious SEA doto
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 06 2014 12:19 GMT
#2180
On March 06 2014 19:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 12:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
TPA will get smashed. Sorry.


We had heard this already once. All know how did it end.

s2 is like so much weaker than nowadays. a small region can't compete at all. u gotta look at the development of the talent level and profsesionalization of teams since that time.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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