While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.

Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned!
- Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM
- Comparing people to Hitler
- Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum.

Tofugrinder

Austria899 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#201

great to see that GSL takes action

I guess I'll buy the next GSL ticket then

_Darwin_

United States2374 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#202

Overreaction

Packawana

United States1081 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#203

It's GOM's decision at the end of the day. If the players have a problem with their moral code, then they can move away from Korea and participate in the rest of the world. Stephano is a prime example of someone who doesn't need Korea -- if other top players felt the same way then they would move. But as long as players want to play in GSL, they should abide by GSL's and that country's standards, just as they should do the same with every other tournament held in any other country.

Bayyne

United States1967 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#204

On December 14 2011 18:58 Kraznaya wrote:
lolol

players can try however hard they like in games...

should GSL also have banned zergbong for going otu drinking the night before and therefore diminshing his own quality of play?

He still makes an attempt to win a game.

Manking

Austria9 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#205

i am wondering why mc never got banned for taunting his opponents several times.
gom tv could have atleast warned naniwa before banning him as there was no rule forbidding what he did...

Logros

Netherlands9913 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#206

This is absolutely retarded. In up/downs they don't even play out games that are meaningless.

Demoe

Canada105 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#207

He broke no rules and was banned..ok would you rather see a 4 gate to make the match "competitive"? Or are we going to admit that the tournament structure sucks and call a spade a spade. Giving players no incentive to win is stupid and doesn't create a competitive environment so I say this is GOMs fault.

DjSweetBazz

Sweden172 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#208

thank you very much GOM!
lets hope this guy stops embarrassing sweden after this

mEatBucket

Sweden45 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#209

What a fucking joke, GSL fuck you.

Encrypto

United States442 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#210

People who are Naniwa fanboys need to understand that this kind of misconduct is punishable. Throwing a game is one of the worst things you can do in this sport.

In other sports, you can physically and intentionally harm another player. That is grounds for punishment. In Starcraft, you can disrespect your opponent, undermine your team, let down your sponsor, disrespect your fans, and insult the people running the tournament all at the same time by doing what Naniwa did.

Vindicare605

United States16126 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#211

On December 14 2011 18:58 Femari wrote:

Show nested quote +

No he just got pulled from the A-Team and was forced to the B-Team and was pulled from all events by his own team until he grows up.

GOM did nothing.

GOM didn't need to, that's the difference.

SlayerS punished Coca for them to save the team face. If they hadn't you can bet your SC2 account GOM would've banned him themselves.

Umilard

Sweden38 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#212

On December 14 2011 18:56 mgl0x9 wrote:
Mr Chae just said that Code S is for progamers and not "prize-money hunters" kenniget twitter

And then invite Sen and Idra to get as much viewers and money as possible. Pot kettle black.

Killmouse

Austria5700 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#213

first got banned by german EPS , now banned by gsl ~

setzer

United States3284 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#214

After the punishment of past players for offenses not even occurring inside the GSL this is the only consequence I can see that would give GOM the respectability and consistency in the way they handle offenders. Imagine how their Korean audience would think if Naniwa was simply given a slap on the wrist because he is foreign and doesn't hold the same customs they do?

Naniwa came into this league fully aware how Koreans react to such things. The blatant disrespectful he showed towards the organization that invited him, the fans that support him, and the sponsors that pay him should not be taken lightly. I'm glad the standard is being upheld, even if it may be a bit harsh (for all offenders).

slicknav

1409 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#215

for fuck sake Naniwa, you could of just proxy gated, spent an extra few minutes playing, and this shit would not have happened.

Femari

United States2900 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#216

On December 14 2011 18:58 Battousai13 wrote:
"Joke tournament."
Naniwa throw's a single game, gets stripped of Code S treated almost like match fixing.
Byun and CoCa blatantly matchfix, "oh they did wrong, we're entrusting their teams to punish them."

Global StarCraft League not really showing fair treatment to global players...

One happened in a GOM tournament, the other didn't.

Guess which one handled each case.

Boof

Canada77 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#217

Good job GOM. Less brats, more pros.

NipponBanzai

Canada518 Posts

December 14 2011 09:59 GMT

#218

I have so much more respect for gomtv now. The league must set standards for their players and if those standards aren't met, those players should be punished.

VonDarkmore

Australia193 Posts

December 14 2011 10:00 GMT

#219

I did some re-search and I could not find in any of GOM’s rules that what Naniwa did was against even part of a rule?
I may not of found the specific rule that states he did the dirty but from what I can see he did something wrong/annoying but not something illegal tournament wise.

How did someone in GOM come to the conclusion that they could do this without making themselves look unprofessional? I think the correct course of action should have been “we are disappointed by what transpired in the Naniwa vs. Nestea match and therefore we are creating this rule to make sure it does not happen again etc” then they could all have a tea party with Naniwa shaped cookies and dunk them several times in their high temperature beverages until they felt better…

What they did was unprofessional to say the least in my opinion. I could definitely be wrong if there is a rule though then I would support what they did.

Itsmedudeman

United States19229 Posts

December 14 2011 10:00 GMT

#220

Naniwa deserves way worse than this for what he's done in the past, but GOM is the only one able to step up and actually have the balls to stand up for their organization. I'm glad they didn't let a diva go thinking that he could do whatever he wanted and disrespect the viewers as well as his opponent like that.