I left a couple of forums because I heard this one is cool, and I can't keep up with all of them...
I recently gave an advice to a person who wanted to know about a computer he was building, I adviced that he went to new egg, and bought a cheap 900Watts+ power supply (cheap as in price effective, 900+ as expansion /upgrade freedom )
I got a warning LOL !?
NO I GOT 2 !!!
here they are.
1) This is a Warning!
go to newegg.com, get a cheap 900 Watts one, that will keep you safe for years, and allow you to upgrade (sli) or what ever.
Please do not give advice when you don't know what you're talking about. It is pretty commonly accepted among PC builders that it is extremely important to get a high quality power supply.
Thanks in advance for your cooperation, iamke55
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2) This is a Warning!
go to newegg.com, get a cheap 900 Watts one, that will keep you safe for years, and allow you to upgrade (sli) or what ever.
Don't give bad advice in the tech support section, please.
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Lol I have been building computer for over 8 years now, I buy all my parts at newegg, I go price effective and powerfull, lol I passed the same advice to a mate that I deal with myself, and I got a warning lol ... thanks for the gratitude who ever is responsible...
Also, my advice might have been miss understood.. I don't know, the fact im brazilian and my english isn't the "top of the line english" might have affected something.
The person who gave this warning (or miss programed rebot, due to a bad developer), miss judged the advice. While I was trying to help a mate, that might be looking to spend this money effectivelly, since he might not be as rich as who gave the warning, who can buy any power supply he wants cuz his daddy and mommy pays for his bills.
First things first, don't even mention you are Brazilian. You get hated instantly. Also, why would you get mad about a misunderstood warning? Just let that go, TL is not the place to whine about getting warned on other sites.
No I got warned on this site just now, not another site, but if you're saying for me not to mention im brazilian, because people will hate me, it isnt true...
I can tell why people hate you, but don't worry, it's not because you're brazilian, it's because of the way you act torwards people. by the way I don't hate you, I understand you're just a kid.
I don't like to throw people off neither.
I'm here to help my mates, and make friends, play sc etc.
How does saying "I've been building for 8 years, I go price efficient and powerful" mean that you aren't giving terrible advice
Just because it says 900W, doesn't mean it delivers 900W, doesnt mean it has PFC, doesn't mean it's efficient, doesn't mean it's a remodelled POS from 7 years ago
Suggested 900W to anyone not thinking about tri-SLI is stupid, a waste, and dangerous to their computer, and not a way to save "his daddy and momm[ies]" money
I'd suggest getting a clue before coming back here, thanks
EDIT:
On October 08 2011 14:55 hydraliskplasma wrote: No I got warned on this site just now, not another site, but if you're saying for me not to mention im brazilian, because people will hate me, it isnt true...
I can tell why people hate you, but don't worry, it's not because you're brazilian, it's because of the way you act torwards people. by the way I don't hate you, I understand you're just a kid.
I don't like to throw people off neither.
I'm here to help my mates, and make friends, play sc etc.
Here to help makes, and make friends......
All you've done is insult mods, insult people giving you legit advice, and offered terrible advice to your "mates"
Just the fact that you posted this here, I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't get another warning. This crap doesn't belong in tech support, it should be in blogs. If you want to Q_Q about warnings I suggest pming a TL admin with your complaints.
900watts for a regular PC build is garbage advice. Good thing R1CH implemented "Bad advice" policy.
Tell me one thing, have you ever refurbished a power supply before? or do you buy a new one when you're blows up?
I'm in the chip business, as a matter of fact, my main job is installing prodgy, and matrix chips on gamming consoles, I think my hardware understanding can't be so bad. I been doing this since snes came out brother.
Go ahead with the flow trying to get attention bro, im only here to help.
Why don't you respond to the mods who warned you instead of making a big deal and posting a thread about it? We don't care, and even if we did, what would we do about it? This is not the way to paint yourself in a good light.
On October 08 2011 15:02 FinestHour wrote: What on earth? Are you really opening a thread to complain about a mod?
well bro, getting 2 warnings on a roll, for helping some one, is kind of not acceptable, you know. when you treat people with respect, and you're willing to help, you kind of expect the same back you know?
It's like, you help you're brother build his house, and when you're done, he punches you in the face, you know? for real man,
On October 08 2011 15:01 hydraliskplasma wrote: lol, this place is full of haters man.
Tell me one thing, have you ever refurbished a power supply before? or do you buy a new one when you're blows up?
I'm in the chip business, as a matter of fact, my main job is installing prodgy, and matrix chips on gamming consoles, I think my hardware understanding can't be so bad. I been doing this since snes came out brother.
Go ahead with the flow trying to get attention bro, im only here to help.
Me trying to get attention? If I'm not mistaken, you're the one who made an entire thread, in capital letters, about how angry you are that the mods think you are retarded
I don't have to worry about refurbishing power supplies, because mine don't blow up, because I don't buy 30$ 900W PSUs (see where I was getting at). This also means I've never shorted a motherboard, or fucked a 300$ video card because some guy on the internet assured me that 900W was required for 1 GPU
I don't understand how you working in a factory putting chips into gaming consoles has much a correlation to an understanding of computer systems. For christs sake 11 year old chinese kids are putting chips into computers, and I guarantee you they have no idea WTF is going on
So "bro," please understand that when people warn you for giving terrible advice, it's not because they hate you, it's because you're giving stupid advice
On October 08 2011 15:02 FinestHour wrote: What on earth? Are you really opening a thread to complain about a mod?
well bro, getting 2 warnings on a roll, for helping some one, is kind of not acceptable, you know. when you treat people with respect, and you're willing to help, you kind of expect the same back you know?
It's like, you help you're brother build his house, and when you're done, he punches you in the face, you know? for real man,
No, that would be like your buddy asking you to help him build a house, and you showing up and assuring him that using duct tape instead of screws is fine, and would probably save him some money
On October 08 2011 15:03 Cel.erity wrote: Why don't you respond to the mods who warned you instead of making a big deal and posting a thread about it? We don't care, and even if we did, what would we do about it? This is not the way to paint yourself in a good light.
Well bro... as a member of overclock net, d3, dev shed, msdn for so many years, THIS IS MY FIRST WARNING, that's why I felt it hard...
it'd be okay to be not agreed on, totaly human, but 2 warnings ? not cool
On October 08 2011 15:01 hydraliskplasma wrote: lol, this place is full of haters man.
Tell me one thing, have you ever refurbished a power supply before? or do you buy a new one when you're blows up?
I'm in the chip business, as a matter of fact, my main job is installing prodgy, and matrix chips on gamming consoles, I think my hardware understanding can't be so bad. I been doing this since snes came out brother.
Go ahead with the flow trying to get attention bro, im only here to help.
Me trying to get attention? If I'm not mistaken, you're the one who made an entire thread, in capital letters, about how angry you are that the mods think you are retarded
I don't have to worry about refurbishing power supplies, because mine don't blow up, because I don't buy 30$ 900W PSUs (see where I was getting at). This also means I've never shorted a motherboard, or fucked a 300$ video card because some guy on the internet assured me that 900W was required for 1 GPU
I don't understand how you working in a factory putting chips into gaming consoles has much a correlation to an understanding of computer systems. For christs sake 11 year old chinese kids are putting chips into computers, and I guarantee you they have no idea WTF is going on
So "bro," please understand that when people warn you for giving terrible advice, it's not because they hate you, it's because you're giving stupid advice
On October 08 2011 15:02 FinestHour wrote: What on earth? Are you really opening a thread to complain about a mod?
well bro, getting 2 warnings on a roll, for helping some one, is kind of not acceptable, you know. when you treat people with respect, and you're willing to help, you kind of expect the same back you know?
It's like, you help you're brother build his house, and when you're done, he punches you in the face, you know? for real man,
No, that would be like your buddy asking you to help him build a house, and you showing up and assuring him that using duct tape instead of screws is fine, and would probably save him some money
no bro, I don't blow my power supply, It's my job brother, since i am an independent individual I have a couple of jobs, and refurbishing parts (computers tv's vcr's) is how I pay for my milk
I can assure you if you gave this bad advice using terrible english on ocn, you would get shunned by the entire community. I don't see how devshed, msdn, televisions, and vcrs relate to a computer's power supply. Do you enjoy bringing up irrelevant points?
On October 08 2011 14:58 Boblhead wrote: Just the fact that you posted this here, I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't get another warning. This crap doesn't belong in tech support, it should be in blogs. If you want to Q_Q about warnings I suggest pming a TL admin with your complaints.
900watts for a regular PC build is garbage advice. Good thing R1CH implemented "Bad advice" policy.
I hope not another one bro, but if I do get another one, it will be 1 password less to remember, which won't really make a difference in any body's life really.
On October 08 2011 15:11 skyR wrote: I can assure you if you gave this bad advice using terrible english on ocn, you would get shunned by the entire community. I don't see how devshed, msdn, televisions, and vcrs relate to a computer's power supply. Do you enjoy bringing up irrelevant points?
Not irrelevants brother. I am a high qualified tech person man. I can make a driver for my own chip set, where you'd probably be stuck if there was no "DOWNLOAD" button at your mb's manufacture's website, or cd for it.
It all comes to the point where, regardless how detailed the advice was, or undetailed, it should never result in a warning, when you're acting positively .
On October 08 2011 14:58 Boblhead wrote: Just the fact that you posted this here, I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't get another warning. This crap doesn't belong in tech support, it should be in blogs. If you want to Q_Q about warnings I suggest pming a TL admin with your complaints.
900watts for a regular PC build is garbage advice. Good thing R1CH implemented "Bad advice" policy.
I hope not another one bro, but if I do get another one, it will be 1 password less to remember, which won't really make a difference in any body's life really.
Ahh, a lesson on life from the great hydraliskplasma......I knew something was missing
On October 08 2011 15:11 skyR wrote: I can assure you if you gave this bad advice using terrible english on ocn, you would get shunned by the entire community. I don't see how devshed, msdn, televisions, and vcrs relate to a computer's power supply. Do you enjoy bringing up irrelevant points?
Not irrelevants brother. I am a high qualified tech person man. I can make a driver for my own chip set, where you'd probably be stuck if there was no "DOWNLOAD" button at your mb's manufacture's website, or cd for it.
It all comes to the point where, regardless how detailed the advice was, or undetailed, it should never result in a warning, when you're acting positively .
LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL. Please, once you produce your own chipset with self-made drivers, send one my way
And what constitutes "high qualified tech person?" Being the only remaining VCR refurbisher in existence?
Also, yes it should, if my 7 year old nephew came on and told everybody they should buy an athlon 64, even if he meant well, he should be banned
On October 08 2011 15:11 skyR wrote: I can assure you if you gave this bad advice using terrible english on ocn, you would get shunned by the entire community. I don't see how devshed, msdn, televisions, and vcrs relate to a computer's power supply. Do you enjoy bringing up irrelevant points?
Not irrelevants brother. I am a high qualified tech person man. I can make a driver for my own chip set, where you'd probably be stuck if there was no "DOWNLOAD" button at your mb's manufacture's website, or cd for it.
It all comes to the point where, regardless how detailed the advice was, or undetailed, it should never result in a warning, when you're acting positively .
LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL. Please, once you produce your own chipset with self-made drivers, send one my way
And what constitutes "high qualified tech person?" Being the only remaining VCR refurbisher in existence?
Also, yes it should, if my 7 year old nephew came on and told everybody they should buy an athlon 64, even if he meant well, he should be banned
And there was no ban. It was a warning...which is synonymous to a poke on the shoulder. Like hey, your advice is bad advice...period.
On October 08 2011 14:55 hydraliskplasma wrote: No I got warned on this site just now, not another site, but if you're saying for me not to mention im brazilian, because people will hate me, it isnt true...
I can tell why people hate you, but don't worry, it's not because you're brazilian, it's because of the way you act torwards people. by the way I don't hate you, I understand you're just a kid.
I don't like to throw people off neither.
I'm here to help my mates, and make friends, play sc etc.
You can tell people hate me by my single post? You never mentioned you were a psychologist. Also, people actually don't hate me. I just threw down the fact the Brazilians are hated all around the internet, which unfortunately aggravates any kind of warnings and bans. If you couldn't figure, I wasn't trying to throw you off. Don't call me a kid, son. You know nothing about me and I never judged you.
Yes I do have an Athlon 64, I also have a Phenom II x4 @ 790fx-gd70, and a I7 s1155.
If that's what you mean, nothing wrong with AMD cpus... my I7 beats my Phenom II by far @ video editing etc etc overall, but when it comes to gamming, the phenom II was hardly beaten, while MUCH CHEAPER ...
see? you are a young generalizer. you generalize the cituation as needed, but'd don't worry you're just a human.
On October 08 2011 15:11 skyR wrote: I can assure you if you gave this bad advice using terrible english on ocn, you would get shunned by the entire community. I don't see how devshed, msdn, televisions, and vcrs relate to a computer's power supply. Do you enjoy bringing up irrelevant points?
Not irrelevants brother. I am a high qualified tech person man. I can make a driver for my own chip set, where you'd probably be stuck if there was no "DOWNLOAD" button at your mb's manufacture's website, or cd for it.
It all comes to the point where, regardless how detailed the advice was, or undetailed, it should never result in a warning, when you're acting positively .
You gave abominable advice that if anyone actually followed it they would risk having there computer destroyed or a fire started.
Yeah thats warning worthy.
Would you like to see MY reference? Come on do it. Call me into question. It will be glorious.
1)when was the last time you saw a computer on fire ?no, seriously ?
2)destroyed ? ... how?
3)When I gave the advice, I was expecting a quote for me to respond, did I ever give a part #? or link ? This is where it stinks... the fact the word cheap was miss understood. the fact it was a ON THE FLY warning, the fact i never had the chance to reply to any quotes, since there was none at the time. --edit-- If the thread owner, asked me,"WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND", I would have looked into his hardware and given an SPECIFIC advice. but it was never done.
I'm not a software engineering. Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
Cheap can be understood as inexpensive or low quality. When a configuration is incapable of SLI and would never exceed 300w under load, suggesting a cheap 900w unit over a Seasonic 520 unit is VERY POOR advice.
If you were acting positively, you would have READ the fucking OP before responding. Instead, you decided to give out terrible advice using terrible English making him waste money on a lower quality component.
On October 08 2011 15:31 cyanide66 wrote: Dude honestly sometimes the mods on TL try to keep us locked down harder than North Koreans.
well brother, I really don't mind that, and I think it's probably a good thing. BUT, because the fact there wasn't enough facts to get a warning, it wasn't polite you know ? there was no specifics... when you say something, there are thousands of ways for that to be understood, unless something is specified.
My advice was empty !!! my advice was an empty advice, which was going to contain someting good, if it was asked to...
Just like with the SC2 relocalizer...
People needed help, I made a friendly interface with auto update for them, to help... I had the same plan for that guy as well lol... see ? the intention was very positive.
On October 08 2011 15:28 hydraliskplasma wrote: Brother,
1)when was the last time you saw a computer on fire ?no, seriously ?
2)destroyed ? ... how?
3)When I gave the advice, I was expecting a quote for me to respond, did I ever give a part #? or link ? This is where it stinks... the fact the word cheap was miss understood. the fact it was a ON THE FLY warning, the fact i never had the chance to reply to any quotes, since there was none at the time. --edit-- If the thread owner, asked me,"WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND", I would have looked into his hardware and given an SPECIFIC advice. but it was never done.
And even I get shit on by members of this board because there was this one time I made an off handed comment about power supplies to skyR. I was wrong because of the way I said it, and right fully so.
So don't worry about it, just move on and redeem yourself. It'll happen, but not in threads like this.
On October 08 2011 15:33 skyR wrote: I'm not a software engineering. Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
Cheap can be understood as inexpensive or low quality. When a configuration is incapable of SLI and would never exceed 300w under load, suggesting a cheap 900w unit over a Seasonic 520 unit is VERY POOR advice.
If you were acting positively, you would have READ the fucking OP before responding. Instead, you decided to give out terrible advice using terrible English making him waste money on a lower quality component.
Negative...
Seasonic 520 good ? ok, seasonic is an "OKAY" power supply... $80 ??? this is the avg price... OVERPRICED...
for $80 dollars, you can get something better, more powerfull, with sli support...
This one only has 1x 6pin,
The poor guy wanna get SLI, what do you do ? spend another ~ $80 ???
Thats why I mentioned the word SLI, the word SLI was the key to make the judgement before the warning... wasnt it ? come on.
On October 08 2011 15:31 cyanide66 wrote: Dude honestly sometimes the mods on TL try to keep us locked down harder than North Koreans.
well brother, I really don't mind that, and I think it's probably a good thing. BUT, because the fact there wasn't enough facts to get a warning, it wasn't polite you know ? there was no specifics... when you say something, there are thousands of ways for that to be understood, unless something is specified.
My advice was empty !!! my advice was an empty advice, which was going to contain someting good, if it was asked to...
Just like with the SC2 relocalizer...
People needed help, I made a friendly interface with auto update for them, to help... I had the same plan for that guy as well lol... see ? the intention was very positive.
Well, the guidelines kinda say that you shouldn't give "general information". Maybe the mod misunderstood you and gave you a warning. But again, a warning is nothing to worry about. ^_^
Oh, and I'm pretty sure that i3 2100 beats any Phenon when it comes to gaming, just because most of the games don't support more than 2 cores (SC2 <_<). But still, AMD holds the best cost effectiveness out there.
Perhaps if he was going "standard" instead of adding "brother" everywhere it would at least be slightly better...
Was he trying to recommend someone some no name brand? A lower, more power efficient one would have been much better.
The Brazilian thing is only for DotA/AoS related games or at least where it stems from... 8150 can match the 2500k in multithreaded apps, but it seems the ipc is worst than the phenom ii ( still need to wait till oct12 for confirmation though )
well, on the internet, any person has the balls to "cut any one's balls"... so that comment is comment is pretty much null ...
But again, The guy decides his FPS is too low, and now he wants SLI, ... wasn't it cheaper, smarter, and more effective to jst get a better power supply for the same amount of money or even less ?
Come one guys... Team Liquid is a gamming forum... and because of that, my advice was fully valid.
even though easy to miss understand due to poor explanation and details (waiting for quote to do so) my advice good, and valid.
On October 08 2011 15:42 nalgene wrote: Perhaps if he was going "standard" instead of adding "brother" everywhere it would at least be slightly better...
Was he trying to recommend someone some no name brand? A lower, more power efficient one would have been much better.
The Brazilian thing is only for DotA/AoS related games or at least where it stems from... 8150 can match the 2500k in multithreaded apps, but it seems the ipc is worst than the phenom ii ( still need to wait till oct12 for confirmation though )
thats the thing my friend, I never recomended anything specific.
On October 08 2011 15:42 hydraliskplasma wrote: well, on the internet, any person has the balls to "cut any one's balls"... so that comment is comment is pretty much null ...
But again, The guy decides his FPS is too low, and now he wants SLI, ... wasn't it cheaper, smarter, and more effective to jst get a better power supply for the same amount of money or even less ?
Come one guys... Team Liquid is a gamming forum... and because of that, my advice was fully valid.
even though easy to miss understand due to poor explanation and details (waiting for quote to do so) my advice good, and valid.
No it wasn't valid. 900W power supply makes sense for zero 2 card SLI setups. Not a single one. And "buy high wattage at low cost" is a common pitfall too many people make.
You clearly didn't read the OP where you gave terrible advice. The average price of a Seasonic S12 is around $60, we are not talking about the M12. The unit has 2x PCIe connectors. The OP's configuration is not capable of SLI. For not reading the OP, you fully deserved the warning.
Brazilian thing is not only for DotA / AoS . This is widespread because of how certain individuals who label them as BR act.
Regardless, if you have an issue, PM a mod or post in website feedback. This isn't the right forum. I get that you feel shit on, but a warning is better than a ban, right?
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