EPTApparently antics like this has happened before judging by this thread.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=97528
Epic /facepalm for the lack of logic the icccup admins have....
Picture of the rigged map.
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Iccup IP Banned My City
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IslandMapBonjwa
Ireland86 Posts
Apparently antics like this has happened before judging by this thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=97528 Epic /facepalm for the lack of logic the icccup admins have.... Picture of the rigged map. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Dunno what else to say except that it's happened before, really :/ Edit: Derp you linked it already | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
This is quite silly indeed, wth. On the other hand Iccup adminds have done some stupid things before.. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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gds
Iceland1391 Posts
Also iccup banning an entire city isnt new. | ||
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Marradron
Netherlands1586 Posts
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tryummm
774 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Thug[ro]
Romania340 Posts
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
I really want to respect people doing stuff voluntarily for the community, but everything the iccup top administration does is completely counterproductive. | ||
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Strike_
Netherlands704 Posts
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HyruleanTubist
United States189 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:14 Kennigit wrote: why not? what? what do you mean why not? what was the point in doing this? | ||
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
Does anyone remember the "battle report" of the guy who beat this idiot who used this stupid map ? That was a pretty hilarious read :D | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:26 HyruleanTubist wrote: what? what do you mean why not? what was the point in doing this? http://www.iccup.com/community/thread/74708.html The second post made by head admin of iccup. | ||
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HyruleanTubist
United States189 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:28 corumjhaelen wrote: I'm dying of laughter at Kennigit answer, well played man ! Does anyone remember the "battle report" of the guy who beat this idiot who used this stupid map ? That was a pretty hilarious read :D FYI, Kennigit's answer refer's to the other time this happened http://www.iccup.com/community/thread/74708.html The "why not" was from the head admin lolol. Edit: darn too slow :p | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11584 Posts
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DorF
Sweden961 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
what a solution. "Why not?" what douche. | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9517 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:14 Kennigit wrote: why not? hahahaha only thing missing is an avatar of a guy flipping you the finger. | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:26 HyruleanTubist wrote: what? what do you mean why not? what was the point in doing this? Considering Kennigit was an army dude, he is probably a huge supporter of collective punishment. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:32 XsebT wrote: Considering Kennigit was an army dude, he is probably a huge supporter of collective punishment. Dunno. Having been trained in the army during a month, I can tell you it's forbidden to use collective punishment in the French army + Show Spoiler + so they call it "muscular reinforcement" lol | ||
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buhhy
United States1113 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:28 Southlight wrote: http://www.iccup.com/community/thread/74708.html The second post made by head admin of iccup. LOL you can't be serious... | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
he is, that actually happened, also unk's old avatar was a guy giving you the finger while relaxing on a expensive looking chair | ||
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Herro_Korea
310 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:40 Nymph wrote: Ah the map in op made me nostalgic about Lastshadow maps, with units building faster and stuff. He was such a creative map maker. same lastshadow thats in korea playing sc2? GGLastshadow? | ||
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
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G3CKO
Canada1430 Posts
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Shewklad
Sweden482 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:28 Southlight wrote: http://www.iccup.com/community/thread/74708.html The second post made by head admin of iccup. And right after him the third poster replies with " what? what do you mean why not? what was the point in doing this?" | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Did not catch that at all <3 | ||
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IslandMapBonjwa
Ireland86 Posts
DDOS | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
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sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:32 XsebT wrote: Considering Kennigit was an army dude, he is probably a huge supporter of collective punishment. you should check the link. although you're trying to use some kind of sarcasm i don't get^^ | ||
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LML
Germany1772 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:43 PassiveAce wrote: same lastshadow thats in korea playing sc2? GGLastshadow? yes. And btw, unk was the webmaster afaik, YelloAnt is the headadmin of all iCCup. | ||
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Game
3191 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:34 corumjhaelen wrote: Dunno. Having been trained in the army during a month, I can tell you it's forbidden to use collective punishment in the French army + Show Spoiler + so they call it "muscular reinforcement" lol Of course the French army doesn't believe in muscular reinforcement. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:30 CaucasianAsian wrote: that map made me laugh holy shit. i actually want to try to play someone like D ranked who has the huge advantage on top while I play from bottom. Of course we can do like a NR5 or something so I can't just proxy gate to win or something. I'll play you. Also LOL ICCUP I can't believe they'd just ban an entire city. <-- I said this but I remember htey banned like Tampa or something a long time ago, I actually thought this was that FL thread, haha. I bet next time someone does something bad they'll just ban the United States or something, hahahaha. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:43 PassiveAce wrote: same lastshadow thats in korea playing sc2? GGLastshadow? doublepost! but yes, same ajtls / Lastshadow. Was a long time ago, however. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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buhhy
United States1113 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:26 HyruleanTubist wrote: what? what do you mean why not? what was the point in doing this? Lool, hidden gem. Didn't even notice. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
I can't believe that kind of retarded actions from the admins can still happen. They're having issues at the moment because their competitors are DDoS'ing them, but if they keep banning entire cities, competitors won't even need DDoS attacks... | ||
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IslandMapBonjwa
Ireland86 Posts
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EternalSC
Sweden313 Posts
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IslandMapBonjwa
Ireland86 Posts
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IslandMapBonjwa
Ireland86 Posts
Source 1 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944–1950) User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On September 21 2011 03:39 IslandMapBonjwa wrote: Banning people from cities must be in Messer's genetics. I mean he is Polish, and the Poles banned 15 million Germans east of the Oder-Neisse line. While the Slavics invaded, several million Germans fled today's Poland, and then Poland bans the remaining 15 million Germans. In Polish standards, this is just a slap on the wrist. Sorry for rant, reverse trolling at its finest. Source 1 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944–1950) Uh.. what the fudge? | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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IslandMapBonjwa
Ireland86 Posts
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Sayle
United Kingdom3685 Posts
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5520 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=103364 I played that guy and blogged about it haha...quite some time ago though | ||
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Hikko
United States1126 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:14 Kennigit wrote: why not? bahahahahahahaha I love you, Kennigit | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
The rigged map is funny though. | ||
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Jackle
Canada859 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:40 unit wrote: he is, that actually happened, also unk's old avatar was a guy giving you the finger while relaxing on a expensive looking chair Buhhy means Southlight didn't realize that HyruleanTubist copied the 3rd post to that thread. -_-;; which was the response to the Admin's "why not?". | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:14 Kennigit wrote: why not? Because: On topic: any word on a reverse? | ||
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Rodiel3
France1158 Posts
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
dude gl with practice though!!!! | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:28 Southlight wrote: http://www.iccup.com/community/thread/74708.html The second and third post made by head admin of iccup. -.- edit: oh someone did already point it out. | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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Sweetfrost
Sweden211 Posts
On topic: I feel sorry for you. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
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KingFool
Canada428 Posts
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
Gentlemen, we've experienced rigged map usage in the USA, EU, and KR areas. There is only one thing we can do. We must ban the whole world. It's the only way to save the integrity of iccup. It's been a pleasure serving with you. See you on the other side. sorry about the ban. | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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KwarK
United States43219 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:14 Kennigit wrote: why not? I came here to post this. | ||
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KwarK
United States43219 Posts
On September 21 2011 06:23 DwD wrote: loving the map haha. Would the cheaters just randomly hope they spawned top or am I missing something? Leave immediately and restart obv. | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
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how2TL
1197 Posts
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
But on topic. Sucks. Hopefully you can get back on. Otherwise I think you should look for somewhere else to move to. Personally playing bw trumps where I live. If that ever happend to me I would move. | ||
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dontnerfterranagain
United States50 Posts
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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CptCutter
United Kingdom370 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:26 HyruleanTubist wrote: what? what do you mean why not? what was the point in doing this? it was blatantly some troll post, no help to the thread what so ever, some one should hammer the trolls out -.- anyways, i think its kinda extreme to ban a whole city but then again, its like the easiest way to deal with the problem. definitely unfair on others though =S. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:14 Kennigit wrote: why not? Yessss haha. Yeah this happened before to Tampa I think. Sucks, but they're kinda like "Well... we don't want to ACTUALLY do anything, so we'll take the easiest, most ridiculous way out." over there. On September 21 2011 07:04 CptCutter wrote: it was blatantly some troll post, no help to the thread what so ever, some one should hammer the trolls out -.- anyways, i think its kinda extreme to ban a whole city but then again, its like the easiest way to deal with the problem. definitely unfair on others though =S. When the first time this happened and a thread was opened, unk (who was a lead admin at Iccup at the time) simply posted "why not?" and that was his only answer to why an entire city was IP banned. | ||
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.gypsy
Canada689 Posts
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Clow
Brazil880 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:14 Kennigit wrote: why not? <3 Gotta love ICCUP admins! | ||
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
Only way to really get back at them is to find another server and bring as many people as you can. Iccup will eventually die out because of poor administration, and that will be a great step forward for eSports. | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On September 21 2011 07:02 dontnerfterranagain wrote: play fish where you dont have power tripping, self-righteous, high horsing hypocritical admins. fixed that for you | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
Why should innocent people be blamed for someone else's crimes? (then again, this happens a lot in this world :/) | ||
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theBlues
El Salvador638 Posts
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LML
Germany1772 Posts
On September 21 2011 07:02 dontnerfterranagain wrote: play sc2 where you dont have power tripping, self-righteous, high horsing hypocritical admins. I don't exactly see how this makes any sense. Well, with less foreigners, what are the chances of more than one person per city playing BW? So let's ban cities instead of players, pssh. | ||
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Hikko
United States1126 Posts
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Aegisky
61 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:28 Southlight wrote: http://www.iccup.com/community/thread/74708.html The second post made by head admin of iccup. Perhaps someone has already mentioned this, but his (HyruleanTubist's) post was the third in the thread, right after the one made by the head iccup admin.  | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
(was posted on TL a year ago) | ||
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HyruleanTubist
United States189 Posts
On September 21 2011 07:04 CptCutter wrote: it was blatantly some troll post, no help to the thread what so ever, some one should hammer the trolls out -.- anyways, i think its kinda extreme to ban a whole city but then again, its like the easiest way to deal with the problem. definitely unfair on others though =S. Rofl read the thread before posting, dude. On topic, based on the last time this happened if you politely message unk or one of the other admins they'll consider unbanning you. Its, again, not a glamorous solution they have to this problem, but it seems to be effective. That map really is hilarious, though. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On September 21 2011 08:10 Hikko wrote: Is there any place I can download this map for the sake of trolling friends? I guess I could just make it myself on the editor, but it'd be easier I beat that guy on his rigged map before so I believe I have it | ||
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Reyis
Pitcairn287 Posts
city ban was always there. it is the part of rules and regulations in iccup which u accept it before registering and using the services. good luck with your law suit OP. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On September 21 2011 07:27 two.watup wrote: Iccup is disgusting. That's why ESV TV (formerly IccupTV) broke away from their stream. Only way to really get back at them is to find another server and bring as many people as you can. Iccup will eventually die out because of poor administration, and that will be a great step forward for eSports. No it's not at all. Don't spread lies. Also I feel like I should point out that iCCup is mainly DoTA servers now, the BW servers are the smallest ones they run. | ||
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Pads
England3228 Posts
On September 21 2011 09:04 Reyis wrote: i love the iccup bashing from majority of the posters here. if you have anything important to say regarding the topic then do it but stop coming here and be like Game in every topic with your fish server advertisement and iccup flaming. city ban was always there. it is the part of rules and regulations in iccup which u accept it before registering and using the services. good luck with your law suit OP. so you think it's fair that people playing the game honestly get ipbanned because someone in their city is abusing? what planet do you live on? anyway it's not like fish is perfect, didn't they used to ban people just for being non korean? | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3336 Posts
But yeah, I think banning a whole city, even if it's been done already, was a bit extreme~ How did the tampa one end? When did it end? | ||
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Armathai
1023 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:26 HyruleanTubist wrote: what? what do you mean why not? what was the point in doing this? Are you serious? What kind of admin says "why not" when someone is asking why he got banned, especially where he does not know the reason? He might have done something wrong that could have warranted in an IP Ban, but I think that you should at least explain what your reasons were behind your actions... | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6638 Posts
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
On September 21 2011 09:17 lokiM wrote: oh god, not this again hahahaha yeahhhh | ||
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Game
3191 Posts
On September 21 2011 09:23 Pads wrote: so you think it's fair that people playing the game honestly get ipbanned because someone in their city is abusing? what planet do you live on? anyway it's not like fish is perfect, didn't they used to ban people just for being non korean? Only after they got wtfbbqroflpwnt by Chinese DDoS, they are more lenient now. Yesterday I had some 1500 guy tell me he loves LRM) because they are great for the ladder. I was like "wut?" | ||
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lightson
45 Posts
I remember playing a game on a rigged FS on bnet east where the rigger gave himself over 10k minerals and gas to start off. It was funny too, cause he was playing standard and all to conceal the truth, and bragging as well on top of it. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:13 Iplaythings wrote: I am the only who thought that this was an old thread which was bumped? i thought the same too :s | ||
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Probe.
United States877 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:26 HyruleanTubist wrote: what? what do you mean why not? what was the point in doing this? I believe that was the answer given by an iccup admin way back when for another stupid decision. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Aegisky
61 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On September 21 2011 09:35 Armathai wrote: Are you serious? What kind of admin says "why not" when someone is asking why he got banned, especially where he does not know the reason? He might have done something wrong that could have warranted in an IP Ban, but I think that you should at least explain what your reasons were behind your actions... ...The fuck | ||
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HyruleanTubist
United States189 Posts
Is it bad I'm getting a LOT of amusement from this? | ||
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Aegisky
61 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:35 HyruleanTubist wrote: Is it bad I'm getting a LOT of amusement from this? It's fine. I'm surprised that this is by no means a rare incident in this thread, at least D: | ||
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
Anyway, I think they could make a simple map-parsing tool to detect if the map has chunks of over 2500 minerals and not rate such games at least automatically. No need to react in such a way. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:26 HyruleanTubist wrote: what? what do you mean why not? what was the point in doing this? im bad <3 unk though | ||
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repsac
91 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:15 arbiter_md wrote: I've played once on rigged python on us west server. The difference was that one island had 50k slots minerals. It was a PvT, I basically took 3/4 of the map and still couldn't win. Was surprised to see how much stuff he gets when he should theoretically be mined out. Had to watch replay to see what was the problem. Anyway, I think they could make a simple map-parsing tool to detect if the map has chunks of over 2500 minerals and not rate such games at least automatically. No need to react in such a way. ? 2500? really? | ||
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Reyis
Pitcairn287 Posts
On September 21 2011 09:23 Pads wrote: so you think it's fair that people playing the game honestly get ipbanned because someone in their city is abusing? what planet do you live on? anyway it's not like fish is perfect, didn't they used to ban people just for being non korean? this has been debated many times in previous similar topics, you can check on them and it is to be honest fair to ip ban bigger areas rather than few individuals because it is the most effective way to do it. it is a free server and you have to play along with whatever the house rules are. dont like it? go to fish like many other. there is no point in bashing the whole server without a proper reason that is related to you. ip ban will expire when the new season starts but the accounts will stay locked i think. not a big deal. | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On September 21 2011 16:15 arbiter_md wrote: I've played once on rigged python on us west server. The difference was that one island had 50k slots minerals. It was a PvT, I basically took 3/4 of the map and still couldn't win. Was surprised to see how much stuff he gets when he should theoretically be mined out. Had to watch replay to see what was the problem. Anyway, I think they could make a simple map-parsing tool to detect if the map has chunks of over 2500 minerals and not rate such games at least automatically. No need to react in such a way. I'll just assume that was a typo and leave it alone  | ||
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Armathai
1023 Posts
On September 21 2011 15:35 HyruleanTubist wrote: Is it bad I'm getting a LOT of amusement from this? No at least you understood it then :D :D | ||
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
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Tourist
Germany55 Posts
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how2TL
1197 Posts
On September 21 2011 17:54 Reyis wrote: this has been debated many times in previous similar topics, you can check on them and it is to be honest fair to ip ban bigger areas rather than few individuals because it is the most effective way to do it. it is a free server and you have to play along with whatever the house rules are. dont like it? go to fish like many other. there is no point in bashing the whole server without a proper reason that is related to you. ip ban will expire when the new season starts but the accounts will stay locked i think. not a big deal. I don't think you understand the meaning of "fair". It's certainly much easier and less taxing on lazy admins. Way to make BW less attractive. | ||
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muse5187
1125 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On September 21 2011 23:31 muse5187 wrote: They always ban entire cities, nothing new. You're fucked. Didn't they like ban all of Florida one time? | ||
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TurboDreams
United States427 Posts
On September 22 2011 00:05 Antisocialmunky wrote: Didn't they like ban all of Florida one time? If that was the case then i wonder, would Messer ban all of Poland if a few Polish players used rigged maps? (No disrespect to Polish players, you guys are awesome) | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
On September 21 2011 02:13 Iplaythings wrote: I am the only who thought that this was an old thread which was bumped? This is quite silly indeed, wth. On the other hand Iccup adminds have done some stupid things before.. Haha I was like "who's opening old threads this time" :D Im pretty sure it has the exact same title. Anyway. Don't you just contact the admins and explain your situation ? | ||
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