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On August 15 2011 17:45 NoobSkills wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:37 Necropoly wrote:On August 15 2011 17:24 NoobSkills wrote:On August 15 2011 17:18 Oreo7 wrote:On August 15 2011 17:14 NoobSkills wrote:On August 15 2011 17:09 RogerChillingworth wrote:On August 15 2011 17:03 Irave wrote:On August 15 2011 17:02 JoeSchmoe wrote: Sigh... at this point all evidence seems to indicate huk... i'm so sad Or is it planted evidence for some peoples entertainment? Is there a reason huk had so many fans in the first place? It really confuses me. 1. Probably the second best foreigner. 2. He is outspoken about what he thinks no bullshit. What? I think you've confused huk and idra, huk's results lately show him to be the best foreigner, and while he's honest, I certainly wouldn't say that first about his personality, more that he's nice, happy, joking. I was actually talking about Naniwa being in first, but perhaps with his recent 1st's all over he is the best foreigner. His personality is what I said it is, that is why people like him. He says what he wants and does like to joke around with it, but he means it regardless. The guy I originally quoted wanted to know why he was popular. Naniwa who was probably the best about 2 months ago still was not the most popular, but not because he was lacking skill or chessed for all his wins, but he is a rather boring individual. I was just simply claiming that personality has a much greater affect on popularity than tournament results. Take Incontrol as an example. No 1sts in anything that matters, but most including me like to watch him because he expresses his feelings, and is pretty funny. Naniwa's never been better than Huk at any point in Sc2. Even when Naniwa won Dallas, Huk was Code S and as Naniwa (and every other foreigner in Korea) has shown making Code S is damn hard to do. Huk's got Code S, he's got 3 major foreign tournaments wins. He's the most successful foreigner in Sc2 to date with Jinro a close second. I have already conceded that Huk is better. Jinro as a second is a stretch and close second even a bigger stretch. Code S is more valuable, but he flew by during a time where strategies were lacking, then switched to macro mech style which took people who again were using lacking strategies by surprise, and now is coasting. Close definitely not. Second place? Perhaps.
Ro4 in GSL is a damn good achievement either way plus he did it twice, he won an MLG as well. That MLG win is equal to any wins other foreigners have had bar Huk at Dreamhack seen as every time Koreans enter something either they win or Huk does.
If you were to talk about the greatest Brood War players you'd mention Boxer, iloveoov, Nada, July etc.. even if they aren't the best right now. So imo it's fair to mention Jinro at the second most successful foreign player.
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On August 15 2011 17:45 RogerChillingworth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:37 DamageControL wrote:On August 15 2011 17:32 RogerChillingworth wrote:On August 15 2011 17:29 DamageControL wrote:On August 15 2011 17:27 SecondChance wrote: Nah...it couldn't be. EG.HuK? lol...
IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT DAMMNIT.
Rekrul's theory could be a possibility; but I really do severely doubt HuK would leave Liquid. The only incentive I could see them offering is more money and I doubt after all this time at Liquid, all the bonds and friendships formed; and great results he's achieved for himself and Liquid would be disregarded for money. Honestly? As his friends, they'd probably understand. Money is money, and it's not like they would no longer be friends. What the fuck does "money is money" supposed to mean? If you're supported by your team and live comfortably, ditching them for more is greedy and a dick move. Simple as that. If you give a mouse a cookie. I dunno what you mean? What's wrong with wanting more money. Most people are trying to obtain more. HuK, I'm sure, has material desires. You can say friendship outweighs that, but I think the damage to friendship would be pretty minimal. It's not about burning bridges, or being idealistic, or any of that shit. It's about building upon and maintaining an identity within a team, and growing that relationship over many years. For people who hop and hop around like bug-eyed cash dolls, no stop is their last. How then are we the audience and fans supposed to recognize or put stock in the sanctity of what the concept of the team is meant to engender? It just becomes some meaningless tag, implying nothing. EGidra? LiquidHuk? FXOQxc? Who cares? It'll all probably change again in 6 months. I agree with you on that. Teams need to become more established or they will be meaningless. Without geographical proximity, that's probably difficult though.
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On August 15 2011 17:50 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:49 babylon wrote:On August 15 2011 17:46 zoLo wrote:On August 15 2011 17:45 caradoc wrote:On August 15 2011 17:44 TheSilverfox wrote:On August 15 2011 17:24 KvltMan wrote:On August 15 2011 17:20 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:On August 15 2011 17:16 KvltMan wrote: So I've been sitting in front of my computer since last night, and this is essentially the only motion that I have performed during this entire time:
This is so intense! Can't wait for the next audio/clip. you've been performing as a horribly-proportioned bad link image? Thats something I wanna see  Also, i find the lack of actual liquid members or other professional players in this thread disturbing lol, botched that one pretty badly. edit: GenozStriker (main article-writer for myeg.net) posted this in the reddit-thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jj3oc/huk_to_eg/c2ck3u5"Find the four horsemen and you'll perhaps find your answer." Liquid's logo is a horse.. and that's as far as i got. It could be: EG.HayprO EG.Ret EG.HuK EG.TLO All four members of TL. I have no idea, seems kind of weird. definitely not TLO. more likely Jinro-- TLO doesn't like EG at all. When did TLO say he does not like EG? During the Puma/EG shenanigans, TLO posted a blog about how much he disliked how EG handled everything and would never join a team like theirs in a million years. (I am simplifying and summarizing, of course, but that is the general gist.) Tyler did the same and has expressed similar things on SotG
Exactly why it looks more than likely to be EG'Huk EG'Jinro EG'Ret EG'Haypro
coinciding with a korea-related announcement
but *sobs* even writing that down in this thread makes me sad/uncomfortable.
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On August 15 2011 17:50 NoobSkills wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:45 RogerChillingworth wrote:On August 15 2011 17:37 DamageControL wrote:On August 15 2011 17:32 RogerChillingworth wrote:On August 15 2011 17:29 DamageControL wrote:On August 15 2011 17:27 SecondChance wrote: Nah...it couldn't be. EG.HuK? lol...
IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT DAMMNIT.
Rekrul's theory could be a possibility; but I really do severely doubt HuK would leave Liquid. The only incentive I could see them offering is more money and I doubt after all this time at Liquid, all the bonds and friendships formed; and great results he's achieved for himself and Liquid would be disregarded for money. Honestly? As his friends, they'd probably understand. Money is money, and it's not like they would no longer be friends. What the fuck does "money is money" supposed to mean? If you're supported by your team and live comfortably, ditching them for more is greedy and a dick move. Simple as that. If you give a mouse a cookie. I dunno what you mean? What's wrong with wanting more money. Most people are trying to obtain more. HuK, I'm sure, has material desires. You can say friendship outweighs that, but I think the damage to friendship would be pretty minimal. It's not about burning bridges, or being idealistic, or any of that shit. It's about building upon and maintaining an identity within a team, and growing that relationship over many years. For people who hop and hop around like bug-eyed cash dolls, no stop is their last. How then are we the audience and fans supposed to recognize or put stock in the sanctity of what the concept of the team is meant to engender? It just becomes some meaningless tag, implying nothing. EGidra? LiquidHuk? FXOQxc? Who cares? It'll all probably change again in 6 months. The scene settles when it should. Even in Korea when a contract was up players moved teams for what? More money! Football, Basketball, Baseball, Those who are top dogs in their individual workplace. The issue here is that you can post this now because you don't have the decision yourself, but if you did, you would most likely take the most money as long as it was a big enough increase. All in all I don't know what the announcement is, but your idealism amuses me enough I want to read all your previous posts 
"The scene settles when it should". That's like saying the market regulates itself (ROfL).
And again, it's not idealism, it's just having principles that make sense. Don't presume to know what I'd do given an if/then.
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I hope its just a showmatch involving TL or they are finally playing in a EG tournament.. I can hope anyway that they are not leaving for EG TT
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On August 15 2011 17:51 caradoc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:50 DystopiaX wrote:On August 15 2011 17:49 babylon wrote:On August 15 2011 17:46 zoLo wrote:On August 15 2011 17:45 caradoc wrote:On August 15 2011 17:44 TheSilverfox wrote:On August 15 2011 17:24 KvltMan wrote:On August 15 2011 17:20 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:On August 15 2011 17:16 KvltMan wrote: So I've been sitting in front of my computer since last night, and this is essentially the only motion that I have performed during this entire time:
This is so intense! Can't wait for the next audio/clip. you've been performing as a horribly-proportioned bad link image? Thats something I wanna see  Also, i find the lack of actual liquid members or other professional players in this thread disturbing lol, botched that one pretty badly. edit: GenozStriker (main article-writer for myeg.net) posted this in the reddit-thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jj3oc/huk_to_eg/c2ck3u5"Find the four horsemen and you'll perhaps find your answer." Liquid's logo is a horse.. and that's as far as i got. It could be: EG.HayprO EG.Ret EG.HuK EG.TLO All four members of TL. I have no idea, seems kind of weird. definitely not TLO. more likely Jinro-- TLO doesn't like EG at all. When did TLO say he does not like EG? During the Puma/EG shenanigans, TLO posted a blog about how much he disliked how EG handled everything and would never join a team like theirs in a million years. (I am simplifying and summarizing, of course, but that is the general gist.) Tyler did the same and has expressed similar things on SotG Exactly why it looks more than likely to be EG'Huk EG'Jinro EG'Ret EG'Haypro coinciding with a korea-related announcement but *sobs* even writing that down in this thread makes me sad/uncomfortable. This only makes me sad until we learn that TL has acquired a new set of even better players.
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On August 15 2011 17:45 dbddbddb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:42 caradoc wrote: Let's start by assuming there are 4 Liquid players leaving, because of the 4horsemen bit,
lets break it down.
running with this assumption, Huk is a definite due to all the reddit intrigue.
Sheth and Hero are both staying since they've just been signed. Tyler would definitely not be moving to EG for a billion reasons. The three remaining people would then be from Jinro, Ret, Haypro, TLO.
Out of these four, Jinro seems probable-- EG wants people in Korea, and EG is hyping this as a huge announcement-- signing four players is huge in and of itself, but its more likely that an announcement would be of a larger initiative, under which signing players is one element.
TLO seems completely improbable-- for a lot of reasons as well.
So that leaves Ret AND Haypro. but here is where it all falls apart---
None of the other individuals seems to fit the above theme that I proposed (some korea related initiative), leading me to think I don't have it right, and might be on the wrong track thinking its actually four liquid members.
it would not make any sense if huk and jinro leaves TL to join EG and still stay in korea. they wont be allowed to live in the oGs-TL house anymore
I agree, EGHuK wouldn't make sense, oGs-TL is too important for practice... though it would make the internet implode if HuK and IdrA were on the same team :p
Maybe Liquid`IdrA? IdrA wanting to go to korea into the oGs-TL house? :p
- Or just a showmatch between Liquid and EG and everything gets overhyped again. - Or an announcement that they will announce an announcement with the release of HotS - Or iNControl making an elaborate troll scheme to troll everyone again
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No matter what EG announces they have already succeeded in their mission.
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Huk leaving Liquid would mean the end of my support for their team unfortunately.
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I'm a sucker for cryptic messages. Hats off to EG.
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On August 15 2011 17:51 caradoc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:50 DystopiaX wrote:On August 15 2011 17:49 babylon wrote:On August 15 2011 17:46 zoLo wrote:On August 15 2011 17:45 caradoc wrote:On August 15 2011 17:44 TheSilverfox wrote:On August 15 2011 17:24 KvltMan wrote:On August 15 2011 17:20 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:On August 15 2011 17:16 KvltMan wrote: So I've been sitting in front of my computer since last night, and this is essentially the only motion that I have performed during this entire time:
This is so intense! Can't wait for the next audio/clip. you've been performing as a horribly-proportioned bad link image? Thats something I wanna see  Also, i find the lack of actual liquid members or other professional players in this thread disturbing lol, botched that one pretty badly. edit: GenozStriker (main article-writer for myeg.net) posted this in the reddit-thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jj3oc/huk_to_eg/c2ck3u5"Find the four horsemen and you'll perhaps find your answer." Liquid's logo is a horse.. and that's as far as i got. It could be: EG.HayprO EG.Ret EG.HuK EG.TLO All four members of TL. I have no idea, seems kind of weird. definitely not TLO. more likely Jinro-- TLO doesn't like EG at all. When did TLO say he does not like EG? During the Puma/EG shenanigans, TLO posted a blog about how much he disliked how EG handled everything and would never join a team like theirs in a million years. (I am simplifying and summarizing, of course, but that is the general gist.) Tyler did the same and has expressed similar things on SotG Exactly why it looks more than likely to be EG'Huk EG'Jinro EG'Ret EG'Haypro coinciding with a korea-related announcement but *sobs* even writing that down in this thread makes me sad/uncomfortable.
It would be a bit weird for them to move to Korea given they just bought the Arizone house. Although it would explain why Puma is still sat in Korea not doing much.
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On August 15 2011 17:52 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:51 caradoc wrote:On August 15 2011 17:50 DystopiaX wrote:On August 15 2011 17:49 babylon wrote:On August 15 2011 17:46 zoLo wrote:On August 15 2011 17:45 caradoc wrote:On August 15 2011 17:44 TheSilverfox wrote:On August 15 2011 17:24 KvltMan wrote:On August 15 2011 17:20 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:On August 15 2011 17:16 KvltMan wrote: So I've been sitting in front of my computer since last night, and this is essentially the only motion that I have performed during this entire time:
This is so intense! Can't wait for the next audio/clip. you've been performing as a horribly-proportioned bad link image? Thats something I wanna see  Also, i find the lack of actual liquid members or other professional players in this thread disturbing lol, botched that one pretty badly. edit: GenozStriker (main article-writer for myeg.net) posted this in the reddit-thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jj3oc/huk_to_eg/c2ck3u5"Find the four horsemen and you'll perhaps find your answer." Liquid's logo is a horse.. and that's as far as i got. It could be: EG.HayprO EG.Ret EG.HuK EG.TLO All four members of TL. I have no idea, seems kind of weird. definitely not TLO. more likely Jinro-- TLO doesn't like EG at all. When did TLO say he does not like EG? During the Puma/EG shenanigans, TLO posted a blog about how much he disliked how EG handled everything and would never join a team like theirs in a million years. (I am simplifying and summarizing, of course, but that is the general gist.) Tyler did the same and has expressed similar things on SotG Exactly why it looks more than likely to be EG'Huk EG'Jinro EG'Ret EG'Haypro coinciding with a korea-related announcement but *sobs* even writing that down in this thread makes me sad/uncomfortable. This only makes me sad until we learn that TL has acquired a new set of even better players.
that's fair enough. Hero has already turned me into a rabid admirer. Sheth is amazing, and such a decent stand up guy...
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On August 15 2011 17:51 caradoc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:50 DystopiaX wrote:On August 15 2011 17:49 babylon wrote:On August 15 2011 17:46 zoLo wrote:On August 15 2011 17:45 caradoc wrote:On August 15 2011 17:44 TheSilverfox wrote:On August 15 2011 17:24 KvltMan wrote:On August 15 2011 17:20 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:On August 15 2011 17:16 KvltMan wrote: So I've been sitting in front of my computer since last night, and this is essentially the only motion that I have performed during this entire time:
This is so intense! Can't wait for the next audio/clip. you've been performing as a horribly-proportioned bad link image? Thats something I wanna see  Also, i find the lack of actual liquid members or other professional players in this thread disturbing lol, botched that one pretty badly. edit: GenozStriker (main article-writer for myeg.net) posted this in the reddit-thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jj3oc/huk_to_eg/c2ck3u5"Find the four horsemen and you'll perhaps find your answer." Liquid's logo is a horse.. and that's as far as i got. It could be: EG.HayprO EG.Ret EG.HuK EG.TLO All four members of TL. I have no idea, seems kind of weird. definitely not TLO. more likely Jinro-- TLO doesn't like EG at all. When did TLO say he does not like EG? During the Puma/EG shenanigans, TLO posted a blog about how much he disliked how EG handled everything and would never join a team like theirs in a million years. (I am simplifying and summarizing, of course, but that is the general gist.) Tyler did the same and has expressed similar things on SotG Exactly why it looks more than likely to be EG'Huk EG'Jinro EG'Ret EG'Haypro coinciding with a korea-related announcement but *sobs* even writing that down in this thread makes me sad/uncomfortable.
I doubt it. The likeliness of getting that many players from liquid seem highly improbable. I think the 4 horsemen are going to be Huk, White-Ra, QXC, and probably Sase or something like that.
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Is this better or worse than the D3 / SC2 announcement?
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On August 15 2011 17:53 Necropoly wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:51 caradoc wrote:On August 15 2011 17:50 DystopiaX wrote:On August 15 2011 17:49 babylon wrote:On August 15 2011 17:46 zoLo wrote:On August 15 2011 17:45 caradoc wrote:On August 15 2011 17:44 TheSilverfox wrote:On August 15 2011 17:24 KvltMan wrote:On August 15 2011 17:20 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:On August 15 2011 17:16 KvltMan wrote: So I've been sitting in front of my computer since last night, and this is essentially the only motion that I have performed during this entire time:
This is so intense! Can't wait for the next audio/clip. you've been performing as a horribly-proportioned bad link image? Thats something I wanna see  Also, i find the lack of actual liquid members or other professional players in this thread disturbing lol, botched that one pretty badly. edit: GenozStriker (main article-writer for myeg.net) posted this in the reddit-thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jj3oc/huk_to_eg/c2ck3u5"Find the four horsemen and you'll perhaps find your answer." Liquid's logo is a horse.. and that's as far as i got. It could be: EG.HayprO EG.Ret EG.HuK EG.TLO All four members of TL. I have no idea, seems kind of weird. definitely not TLO. more likely Jinro-- TLO doesn't like EG at all. When did TLO say he does not like EG? During the Puma/EG shenanigans, TLO posted a blog about how much he disliked how EG handled everything and would never join a team like theirs in a million years. (I am simplifying and summarizing, of course, but that is the general gist.) Tyler did the same and has expressed similar things on SotG Exactly why it looks more than likely to be EG'Huk EG'Jinro EG'Ret EG'Haypro coinciding with a korea-related announcement but *sobs* even writing that down in this thread makes me sad/uncomfortable. It would be a bit weird for them to move to Korea given they just bought the Arizone house. Although it would explain why Puma is still sat in Korea not doing much.
they're a big organization, they may want to expand to more than one place. ie. acquiring all these players.
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On August 15 2011 17:53 Necropoly wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:51 caradoc wrote:On August 15 2011 17:50 DystopiaX wrote:On August 15 2011 17:49 babylon wrote:On August 15 2011 17:46 zoLo wrote:On August 15 2011 17:45 caradoc wrote:On August 15 2011 17:44 TheSilverfox wrote:On August 15 2011 17:24 KvltMan wrote:On August 15 2011 17:20 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:On August 15 2011 17:16 KvltMan wrote: So I've been sitting in front of my computer since last night, and this is essentially the only motion that I have performed during this entire time:
This is so intense! Can't wait for the next audio/clip. you've been performing as a horribly-proportioned bad link image? Thats something I wanna see  Also, i find the lack of actual liquid members or other professional players in this thread disturbing lol, botched that one pretty badly. edit: GenozStriker (main article-writer for myeg.net) posted this in the reddit-thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jj3oc/huk_to_eg/c2ck3u5"Find the four horsemen and you'll perhaps find your answer." Liquid's logo is a horse.. and that's as far as i got. It could be: EG.HayprO EG.Ret EG.HuK EG.TLO All four members of TL. I have no idea, seems kind of weird. definitely not TLO. more likely Jinro-- TLO doesn't like EG at all. When did TLO say he does not like EG? During the Puma/EG shenanigans, TLO posted a blog about how much he disliked how EG handled everything and would never join a team like theirs in a million years. (I am simplifying and summarizing, of course, but that is the general gist.) Tyler did the same and has expressed similar things on SotG Exactly why it looks more than likely to be EG'Huk EG'Jinro EG'Ret EG'Haypro coinciding with a korea-related announcement but *sobs* even writing that down in this thread makes me sad/uncomfortable. It would be a bit weird for them to move to Korea given they just bought the Arizone house. Although it would explain why Puma is still sat in Korea not doing much. EG have repeatedly made mention of plans for a Korea house happening sometime in the future.
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On August 15 2011 17:53 TheAmazombie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 17:51 caradoc wrote:On August 15 2011 17:50 DystopiaX wrote:On August 15 2011 17:49 babylon wrote:On August 15 2011 17:46 zoLo wrote:On August 15 2011 17:45 caradoc wrote:On August 15 2011 17:44 TheSilverfox wrote:On August 15 2011 17:24 KvltMan wrote:On August 15 2011 17:20 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:On August 15 2011 17:16 KvltMan wrote: So I've been sitting in front of my computer since last night, and this is essentially the only motion that I have performed during this entire time:
This is so intense! Can't wait for the next audio/clip. you've been performing as a horribly-proportioned bad link image? Thats something I wanna see  Also, i find the lack of actual liquid members or other professional players in this thread disturbing lol, botched that one pretty badly. edit: GenozStriker (main article-writer for myeg.net) posted this in the reddit-thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jj3oc/huk_to_eg/c2ck3u5"Find the four horsemen and you'll perhaps find your answer." Liquid's logo is a horse.. and that's as far as i got. It could be: EG.HayprO EG.Ret EG.HuK EG.TLO All four members of TL. I have no idea, seems kind of weird. definitely not TLO. more likely Jinro-- TLO doesn't like EG at all. When did TLO say he does not like EG? During the Puma/EG shenanigans, TLO posted a blog about how much he disliked how EG handled everything and would never join a team like theirs in a million years. (I am simplifying and summarizing, of course, but that is the general gist.) Tyler did the same and has expressed similar things on SotG Exactly why it looks more than likely to be EG'Huk EG'Jinro EG'Ret EG'Haypro coinciding with a korea-related announcement but *sobs* even writing that down in this thread makes me sad/uncomfortable. I doubt it. The likeliness of getting that many players from liquid seem highly improbable. I think the 4 horsemen are going to be Huk, White-Ra, QXC, and probably Sase or something like that.
I really hope that's more like it--
but how are QXC/White-RA/Sase related to horses at all? I don't see any link/evidence for it, except the white-ra references.
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4 horsemen: I guess Ill go with my previous guess in this thread: White-Ra, Huk, Ret, and Destiny (not sure why i included in my previous prediction)
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