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Necropoly
Profile Joined August 2011
7 Posts
August 15 2011 08:47 GMT
#1721
Huk moving to EG would be really weird, so it makes me really doubt whether it's true.

A) Huk would be abandoning his Korean team house and presumably going to the EG house which would go against his repeatedly stated dream of winning Code S and as everyone knows his skill level would quickly drop and he'd no longer be the force he is now.

B) While EG could in theory offer him a lucrative salary that salary certainly will be far, far less than the money a guy like Nestea or MC makes by just winning tournaments. Huk certainly can't be short on cash as he's made $33,000 in the last year in tournament winnings alone (before TL salary, streaming money, sponsors etc..) so if he were to move to EG and win less tournaments he wouldn't neccessarily be better off financially. And one big NASL or GSL win would by out do any salary EG could pay him.
hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
August 15 2011 08:47 GMT
#1722
i hope this is all a big joke and eg is only signing the esports elephant
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
August 15 2011 08:47 GMT
#1723
On August 15 2011 17:46 Caniban wrote:
i dont know if anyone postet this yet.

whitera usually says before he starts to klick at ladder 1vs1 "okay one more game".



... and i will never find the post again where i said it was whitera
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 15 2011 08:47 GMT
#1724
On August 15 2011 17:46 Caniban wrote:
i dont know if anyone postet this yet.

whitera usually says before he starts to klick at ladder 1vs1 "okay one more game".


Yeah, I am pretty sure we are looking at a new EG Korean team with Huk, White-Ra, Puma, and someone else...this is what it is sounding like...
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
August 15 2011 08:48 GMT
#1725
On August 15 2011 17:40 j0ker wrote:
As much as I love TL and what they do for the community, I feel as if everyone seems to be over rating Liquid(the team) in this discussion. Especially in the context of Huk leaving for EG.

Huk is their best player, with only Ret to offer any challenge to that claim.

From Huk's perspective its:

Idra or Ret/Sheth

Liquid comes out on top here by having 2 guys that are around Idra's level. Considering recent results, its hard to place these three, but they are all pretty close in skill.

Puma/Demuslim vs TLO/Jinro

This is a landslide for EG. Demuslim is probably better than both of those 2 and Puma is way better.

Tyler/Hero vs Incontrol/Axslav

Win for Liquid because of Hero, but not by that huge of a margin. I love Tyler, but he has shown no signs of wanting to get to a competitive level. It might be that he cant due to personal reasons, and that sucks for all of us, but from a practice perspective, he has little to offer.

The lesser players are fairly negligible. I would say, looking at the comparison above, that whichever team Huk joined would be the stronger team. Add in the hints towards 1 or more additional signings for EG and it starts to become one-sided.

Of course, there are other factors as well. If Huk wanted only to stay in Korea, he would probably be losing his spot at the oGs house, the best environment around for him to improve. However, EG has vaguely talked about establishing a training environment in Korea. Currently, we dont know if this is a 1 bedroom apartment for Puma, or a planned team house. The latter, coupled with a new Korean signing, could drastically lessen the impact of Huk having to leave the oGs house. Also, if Huk wanted to stay serious but perhaps come back to the states for a while, EG would be the obvious choice with their team house.

Lastly, money and loyalty come into play. Liquid is in an interesting state. They have an absolute top-notch connecting with oGs, but have only 2 players out there, 1 who appears to be leaving soon. Ret seems to be gaining form and Sheth/Hero are big signings, but TLO has injury issues, Haypro hasnt gotten anywhere and Tyler is stunted for various reasons. EG, on the other hand, seems to be gaining momentum with the new house and Puma signing. And while I'm sure Huk is a loyal guy, EG seems far more capable of paying a large salary, has bigger and more sponsors, and has shown that they are prepared to spend any money necessary to create a dominant team.


You forget that it's oGs-TL.

PvP:
MC - self-explanatory, one of the best players in the world
Inca - one of (if not the single) best PvPer in the world

PvT:
Nada - the most consistent Korean Terran who was and still is top 8 in korea (in terms of GSL point ranking).
Top and sTc - two extremely good Korean terrans

PvZ: you already noted that Liquid wins out here - plus players like Zenio.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
August 15 2011 08:49 GMT
#1726
Argh, this is killing me. This has got to be the most hyped thing of all time. I feel like i'm in a Dan Brown novel -____-.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 08:50:17
August 15 2011 08:49 GMT
#1727
On August 15 2011 17:46 zoLo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 17:45 caradoc wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:44 TheSilverfox wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:24 KvltMan wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:20 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:16 KvltMan wrote:
So I've been sitting in front of my computer since last night, and this is essentially the only motion that I have performed during this entire time:


This is so intense! Can't wait for the next audio/clip.


you've been performing as a horribly-proportioned bad link image?

Thats something I wanna see


Also, i find the lack of actual liquid members or other professional players in this thread disturbing

lol, botched that one pretty badly.

edit: GenozStriker (main article-writer for myeg.net) posted this in the reddit-thread:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jj3oc/huk_to_eg/c2ck3u5

"Find the four horsemen and you'll perhaps find your answer."
Liquid's logo is a horse.. and that's as far as i got.


It could be:

EG.HayprO
EG.Ret
EG.HuK
EG.TLO

All four members of TL. I have no idea, seems kind of weird.



definitely not TLO. more likely Jinro-- TLO doesn't like EG at all.


When did TLO say he does not like EG?

During the Puma/EG shenanigans, TLO posted a blog about how much he disliked how EG handled everything and how he would never join a team like theirs in a million years. (I am simplifying and summarizing, of course, but that is the general gist.)
Ferox77
Profile Joined October 2010
United States59 Posts
August 15 2011 08:49 GMT
#1728
On August 15 2011 17:45 Irave wrote:
What if its onemoregame.tv getting rights to something GSL related and will be streaming the GSL with the first game being shown as Huks?

This sounds more likely than eg.huk
no amount of creativity is gonna get a zergling past a wallin or an overlord past a marine - IdrA
Chodes
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada212 Posts
August 15 2011 08:49 GMT
#1729
On August 15 2011 17:33 Oreo7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 17:24 NoobSkills wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:18 Oreo7 wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:14 NoobSkills wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:09 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:03 Irave wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:02 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Sigh... at this point all evidence seems to indicate huk... i'm so sad

Or is it planted evidence for some peoples entertainment?


Is there a reason huk had so many fans in the first place? It really confuses me.


1. Probably the second best foreigner.
2. He is outspoken about what he thinks no bullshit.


What? I think you've confused huk and idra, huk's results lately show him to be the best foreigner, and while he's honest, I certainly wouldn't say that first about his personality, more that he's nice, happy, joking.


I was actually talking about Naniwa being in first, but perhaps with his recent 1st's all over he is the best foreigner. His personality is what I said it is, that is why people like him. He says what he wants and does like to joke around with it, but he means it regardless.

The guy I originally quoted wanted to know why he was popular. Naniwa who was probably the best about 2 months ago still was not the most popular, but not because he was lacking skill or chessed for all his wins, but he is a rather boring individual. I was just simply claiming that personality has a much greater affect on popularity than tournament results. Take Incontrol as an example. No 1sts in anything that matters, but most including me like to watch him because he expresses his feelings, and is pretty funny.


HuK beat Nani in his win at HSC, and placed higher at the latest MLG. HuK is right now better than Nani, no question.

More accomplished =/= better
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | "Sup Son"- SeleCT"~~MMA Fighting!!
Toez
Profile Joined June 2011
France167 Posts
August 15 2011 08:49 GMT
#1730
4 Horsemens maybe the 4 guys who went to korea for the gstl. Sase is teamless
like a baws
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 15 2011 08:49 GMT
#1731
On August 15 2011 17:47 hyptonic wrote:
i hope this is all a big joke and eg is only signing the esports elephant

Machine got a new set of 40k figurines!
lol tbh I think it won't be as big as most of us are making it out to be...god knows EG has overhyped stuff before.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
August 15 2011 08:50 GMT
#1732
On August 15 2011 17:45 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 17:37 DamageControL wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:32 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:29 DamageControL wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:27 SecondChance wrote:
Nah...it couldn't be. EG.HuK? lol...

IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT DAMMNIT.

Rekrul's theory could be a possibility; but I really do severely doubt HuK would leave Liquid. The only incentive I could see them offering is more money and I doubt after all this time at Liquid, all the bonds and friendships formed; and great results he's achieved for himself and Liquid would be disregarded for money.

Honestly? As his friends, they'd probably understand. Money is money, and it's not like they would no longer be friends.


What the fuck does "money is money" supposed to mean? If you're supported by your team and live comfortably, ditching them for more is greedy and a dick move. Simple as that. If you give a mouse a cookie.

I dunno what you mean? What's wrong with wanting more money. Most people are trying to obtain more. HuK, I'm sure, has material desires. You can say friendship outweighs that, but I think the damage to friendship would be pretty minimal.


It's not about burning bridges, or being idealistic, or any of that shit. It's about building upon and maintaining an identity within a team, and growing that relationship over many years. For people who hop and hop around like bug-eyed cash dolls, no stop is their last. How then are we the audience and fans supposed to recognize or put stock in the sanctity of what the concept of the team is meant to engender? It just becomes some meaningless tag, implying nothing.

EGidra? LiquidHuk? FXOQxc? Who cares? It'll all probably change again in 6 months.



The scene settles when it should. Even in Korea when a contract was up players moved teams for what? More money! Football, Basketball, Baseball, Those who are top dogs in their individual workplace. The issue here is that you can post this now because you don't have the decision yourself, but if you did, you would most likely take the most money as long as it was a big enough increase.

All in all I don't know what the announcement is, but your idealism amuses me enough I want to read all your previous posts
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
August 15 2011 08:50 GMT
#1733
On August 15 2011 17:45 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 17:44 HitMonkie wrote:
INB4 EG buys out all of Team Liquid.

Would be gross imo. The way EG conducts business (legit but shady/bad PR at least) and the liquid ideal of being well mannered and respected inside and out of the game clash heavily.

Im sry, but imo eg has the best sense of business and supporting esport
Bodom
Profile Joined May 2011
United States17 Posts
August 15 2011 08:50 GMT
#1734
On August 15 2011 17:39 last.resistance wrote:
Someone on reddit is now claiming HuK is getting an apartment in Korea and a six figure salary.

That seems a little insane if it's true.

I think people are seriously underestimating how much sitting next to MC has helped HuK, EG included if this is true.

From a fan perspective this is a horrible move. TL stands for what progaming should be. The love of the game. EG just looks like a corporation throwing money at their problem when the heart just isn't there.
Just my two cents...
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 15 2011 08:50 GMT
#1735
On August 15 2011 17:49 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 17:46 zoLo wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:45 caradoc wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:44 TheSilverfox wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:24 KvltMan wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:20 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
On August 15 2011 17:16 KvltMan wrote:
So I've been sitting in front of my computer since last night, and this is essentially the only motion that I have performed during this entire time:


This is so intense! Can't wait for the next audio/clip.


you've been performing as a horribly-proportioned bad link image?

Thats something I wanna see


Also, i find the lack of actual liquid members or other professional players in this thread disturbing

lol, botched that one pretty badly.

edit: GenozStriker (main article-writer for myeg.net) posted this in the reddit-thread:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/jj3oc/huk_to_eg/c2ck3u5

"Find the four horsemen and you'll perhaps find your answer."
Liquid's logo is a horse.. and that's as far as i got.


It could be:

EG.HayprO
EG.Ret
EG.HuK
EG.TLO

All four members of TL. I have no idea, seems kind of weird.



definitely not TLO. more likely Jinro-- TLO doesn't like EG at all.


When did TLO say he does not like EG?

During the Puma/EG shenanigans, TLO posted a blog about how much he disliked how EG handled everything and would never join a team like theirs in a million years. (I am simplifying and summarizing, of course, but that is the general gist.)

Tyler did the same and has expressed similar things on SotG
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
August 15 2011 08:50 GMT
#1736
On August 15 2011 17:49 Ferox77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 17:45 Irave wrote:
What if its onemoregame.tv getting rights to something GSL related and will be streaming the GSL with the first game being shown as Huks?

This sounds more likely than eg.huk



except that theres pending bad news announcements from Liquid + incoming drama shitstorm that have been announced, coinciding with EG's hype. Follow the news man! WE gotta piece this together.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Moli
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands78 Posts
August 15 2011 08:50 GMT
#1737
On August 15 2011 17:47 schaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 17:46 Caniban wrote:
i dont know if anyone postet this yet.

whitera usually says before he starts to klick at ladder 1vs1 "okay one more game".



... and i will never find the post again where i said it was whitera


Ofc you will! upper left menu under your name: Posts->View as Posts->Direct link
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 15 2011 08:50 GMT
#1738
On August 15 2011 17:39 last.resistance wrote:
Someone on reddit is now claiming HuK is getting an apartment in Korea and a six figure salary.

That seems a little insane if it's true.


Well EG would definitely be cleaning every piggy bank to afford that.

Keep in mind how much Intel sponsored Boxer for to setup slayers. It would probably be somewhere around 50-60% of that for ONE player. I'm fairly certain you could pick up one of the top korean pro's for that kind of money.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Chibithor
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil514 Posts
August 15 2011 08:50 GMT
#1739
Is 01:00:10:xx around the right time atm? The timer seems to be a bit iffy when it comes to timezones and PC's local time and I'm wondering if it's even showing me the right time... Would be nice if the OP updated with some info, can't help but think this has been asked and answered before, but 85 pages is a bit much.
j0ker
Profile Joined August 2011
275 Posts
August 15 2011 08:50 GMT
#1740
All evidence in the past hints at EG paying its players very well. I doubt they would offer lucrative contracts to an injured TLO, a demotivated Tyler, a medicore Haypro, or a stagnant Jinro. I could definitely see them signing a Ret, although I don't know anything about his personal stance or contract situation.

Huk & Ret with another European and a Korean thrown in? That would be enormous for EG.
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