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Server: NA Your Name: SouCHe Hacker Name: OMAGA Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/12344 Description: Map Hacking
im 99.9 % sure this is some kind of map hack... looks like he can see my units on the minimap... It would be nice if you download the replay and comeback with you toughts...
Thanks!
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Server: NA Your Name: WarMagi - Zerg Hacker Name: test - Protoss Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?f7pvbi49gma2bzw Description: Map Hacking
Playing the game I thought something was weird when he went directly to my base w/o a scout, watching the replay confirmed it. Some things I noted. I left out some smaller ones which could have been coincidence
If you could look at the replay and let me know your thoughts, that'd be great, I've reported him to battlenet, sadly I bet nothing happens, looking at his record he's rank #1 silver and won most of his past games. If you play him report him. Feels good to beat a map hacker 
Watch from hacker's POV 2:34 - goes directly to my expansion w/o having scouted and builds a pylon 6:45 - looks at zerglings & morphing lair through fog of war (FOW) 8:15 - looks at my expansion & my main through fog of war (FOW) 9:30 - looks at the new evo chamber through fog of war (FOW) 11:29 - looks at my group of muta's flying towards his base through fog of war (FOW) 12:59 - looks exactly at the 3rd I've just taken through fog of war (FOW) 21:54 - looks directly at my army as it is moving out through fog of war (FOW) 22:28 - looks at my main force as it's moving towards his base through fog of war (FOW)
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remove entire post sorry. Confused with 2 diff players.
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Fireblast : WOW this is definitly a map hack, not a single doubt in my mind... If you can check the replay i posted just before you and comment back to me, it would be nice. Even tough my replay if less convincing, im still sure i was map hacked in that game, especially the part where he snipes my overlords...
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On August 28 2011 12:16 JediGamer wrote: remove entire post sorry. Confused with 2 diff players. all I found after searching was a hilarious replay between idra and avilo titled avilo mass nukes idra ragequits.
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On August 28 2011 12:59 BigBoss99 wrote: Even tough my replay if less convincing, im still sure i was map hacked in that game, especially the part where he snipes my overlords...
Watched your replay, your guy wasn't as obvious but I'd call it maphacking based on how he spotted your scouting ovie through the fog of war. The fact he didn't scout 6 mins into the game also is suspicious. Him sniping all your overlords was also pretty "lucky." He wasn't as blatent as my guy but he was definitely doing some suspicious stuff
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Server: NA Your Name: ProTech Hacker Name: Lone / RatZDeeZer Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/6T9Pgc Description: Map hacking and or production tab hacking.
6 Pool goes down, they haven't scouted the base. Deezer puts a pylon at the front of the choke to block the lings cancels the pylon for no apparent reason ( probably because it would look like cheating / hacking. ) Waits for the lings to get in vision and then drops the pylon again. Obvious hacking / cheating.
You'll also notice that I stream 100% of my games, but because it was deezer we que'd against, I blacked my stream, and you hear Lone say in the game " Omfg black screen? Nerd " So that's proof that I blacked my stream before this game started knowing who we were playing.
That being said this replay is 100% proof of them either 1) Lone hacking, or 2) Deezer hacking I can't be sure cause they might be using skype or something and lone might just be telling deezer what's coming.
Either way, this replay is 100% solid proof that one of these players are hacking.
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On August 29 2011 04:13 ProTech wrote:Server: NA Your Name: ProTech Hacker Name: Lone / RatZDeeZer Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/6T9PgcDescription: Map hacking and or production tab hacking. 6 Pool goes down, they haven't scouted the base. Deezer puts a pylon at the front of the choke to block the lings cancels the pylon for no apparent reason ( probably because it would look like cheating / hacking. ) Waits for the lings to get in vision and then drops the pylon again. Obvious hacking / cheating. You'll also notice that I stream 100% of my games, but because it was deezer we que'd against, I blacked my stream, and you hear Lone say in the game " Omfg black screen? Nerd " So that's proof that I blacked my stream before this game started knowing who we were playing. That being said this replay is 100% proof of them either 1) Lone hacking, or 2) Deezer hacking I can't be sure cause they might be using skype or something and lone might just be telling deezer what's coming. Either way, this replay is 100% solid proof that one of these players are hacking. Watched the replay, could be production hack but there is no camera lock during this game on either players. Also, reading the other thread, it seems you have a history of 6 pooling as z? they could possibly know your playstyle. correct me if i'm wrong though.
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I'm 90% sure that this is hacking. I need to watch the replay a few more times.
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On August 29 2011 04:41 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 04:13 ProTech wrote:Server: NA Your Name: ProTech Hacker Name: Lone / RatZDeeZer Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/6T9PgcDescription: Map hacking and or production tab hacking. 6 Pool goes down, they haven't scouted the base. Deezer puts a pylon at the front of the choke to block the lings cancels the pylon for no apparent reason ( probably because it would look like cheating / hacking. ) Waits for the lings to get in vision and then drops the pylon again. Obvious hacking / cheating. You'll also notice that I stream 100% of my games, but because it was deezer we que'd against, I blacked my stream, and you hear Lone say in the game " Omfg black screen? Nerd " So that's proof that I blacked my stream before this game started knowing who we were playing. That being said this replay is 100% proof of them either 1) Lone hacking, or 2) Deezer hacking I can't be sure cause they might be using skype or something and lone might just be telling deezer what's coming. Either way, this replay is 100% solid proof that one of these players are hacking. Watched the replay, could be production hack but there is no camera lock during this game on either players. Also, reading the other thread, it seems you have a history of 6 pooling as z? they could possibly know your playstyle. correct me if i'm wrong though.
this game, is the first time i have EVER 6 pooled with my ally. whenever we play against TP i never go 6 pool ally just gets mad about it. this is the first time ive ever 6 pooled with destructive, so knowing my playstyle doesnt justify this play
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On August 29 2011 04:41 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2011 04:13 ProTech wrote:Server: NA Your Name: ProTech Hacker Name: Lone / RatZDeeZer Replay: http://replayfu.com/r/6T9PgcDescription: Map hacking and or production tab hacking. 6 Pool goes down, they haven't scouted the base. Deezer puts a pylon at the front of the choke to block the lings cancels the pylon for no apparent reason ( probably because it would look like cheating / hacking. ) Waits for the lings to get in vision and then drops the pylon again. Obvious hacking / cheating. You'll also notice that I stream 100% of my games, but because it was deezer we que'd against, I blacked my stream, and you hear Lone say in the game " Omfg black screen? Nerd " So that's proof that I blacked my stream before this game started knowing who we were playing. That being said this replay is 100% proof of them either 1) Lone hacking, or 2) Deezer hacking I can't be sure cause they might be using skype or something and lone might just be telling deezer what's coming. Either way, this replay is 100% solid proof that one of these players are hacking. Watched the replay, could be production hack but there is no camera lock during this game on either players. Also, reading the other thread, it seems you have a history of 6 pooling as z? they could possibly know your playstyle. correct me if i'm wrong though.
if they knew his playstyle (which they didint), why would he make pylon, then cancel it? and then he leaves probe there for like 10 sec like some noob. i will tell you why, because he knew that protech is coming, he overreacted, made first paylon. then he realized that he couldnt have known (everyone will know it was a cheating) for 6 pool and cancel it. then he waited to see him on the screen so he can make 2nd pylon. and he didnt even move probe, he just left it to sit so he can make new pylon. GM player, make pylon, cancel it, doesnt move probe? lol cheating in my opinion. and if u look Lones match history, he has like 50-1 or smt 1v1 score. hmm.. even best players have to face chees sometimes. 3v3 108-1 score.. i dont know, it is fishy to say at least.
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I've added the Deezer/Lone replay as [NEEDS REVIEW]. We need to have a thorough and civil discussion on this replay. If you have an extra minute, please watch and throw in your 2¢.
Thank you.
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very very clear maphacking going on in this game.
first of all, Lone and Deezer were both very well known hackers for warcraft 3. as the lings approach the base Lone sends a 3rd scv for absolutely no apparent reason. Without any scouting information, why would you possible need a 3rd scv there, as you already have a free scv from the completion of the first barracks (if needed to build a bunker, etc.) Also, BEFORE the lings are in sight, Deezer immediately chrono's a zealot. This makes no sense as they were going to be completely walled and the marines would hold off any zerglings later that a 6-7 pool. Very obvious. Also, for those thinking they were listening to the stream or knew Protech commonly 6 pooled, the timing of Lone bringing a 3rd scv and Deezer bringing a probe to complete the wall was too precise. Without knowing lings were on directly there, why would deezer possibly complete the wall with a pylon and not a cyber or bunker....
Also, if you notice the robo timing directly after the banshee with cloak began researching, and on top of that, lone throwing down a engineering bay before any sight of banshee, let alone any sight of the enemy base.
And also, this isnt the first time Lone has been accussed of hacking. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252666
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Lone's turret goes up as soon as Power's tech lab on starport goes up. Ez.
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watched deezer replay first from deezer's camera view then lone's with production tab up
could be production hack
could not be too
not any evidence i could see of maphacking
there werent any funky FOW looks or anything like that
he did start a Robo very very shortly after cloak started being researched same as lone started a turret
but other than that and the wall-off at the start (that failed to stop the zergling pressure anyway...) there was nothing even remotely suspicious and even those two things weren't very suspicious to me... the wall-off was way more suspicious than the robo.
chronoing a zealot and bringing a 3rd scv could be explained by maphack or by knowing timings and having a production hack
or simple stream viewing as destructive reminds protech to shut his the hell down, unfortunately after it was too late to conceal the 6 pool (presumably) 
nice seeing deezer be deezer tho <3 that #7 GM baby!
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On August 29 2011 05:17 DeepElemBlues wrote:watched deezer replay first from deezer's camera view then lone's with production tab up could be production hack could not be too not any evidence i could see of maphacking there werent any funky FOW looks or anything like that he did start a Robo very very shortly after cloak started being researched same as lone started a turret but other than that and the wall-off at the start (that failed to stop the zergling pressure anyway...) there was nothing even remotely suspicious and even those two things weren't very suspicious to me... the wall-off was way more suspicious than the robo. chronoing a zealot and bringing a 3rd scv could be explained by maphack or by knowing timings and having a production hack or simple stream viewing as destructive reminds protech to shut his the hell down, unfortunately after it was too late to conceal the 6 pool (presumably)  nice seeing deezer be deezer tho <3 that #7 GM baby!
So, even though they havent scouted our bases at all, you think the timings of countering are units are still justifiable?
They don't even know what the terran is dumping his resources into, they didnt scout jack.
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On August 29 2011 05:17 DeepElemBlues wrote:watched deezer replay first from deezer's camera view then lone's with production tab up could be production hack could not be too not any evidence i could see of maphacking there werent any funky FOW looks or anything like that he did start a Robo very very shortly after cloak started being researched same as lone started a turret but other than that and the wall-off at the start (that failed to stop the zergling pressure anyway...) there was nothing even remotely suspicious and even those two things weren't very suspicious to me... the wall-off was way more suspicious than the robo. chronoing a zealot and bringing a 3rd scv could be explained by maphack or by knowing timings and having a production hack or simple stream viewing as destructive reminds protech to shut his the hell down, unfortunately after it was too late to conceal the 6 pool (presumably)  nice seeing deezer be deezer tho <3 that #7 GM baby!
No, the stream was already down. I downed it on the load screen...
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On August 29 2011 05:17 DeepElemBlues wrote: could be production hack
could not be too
not any evidence i could see of maphacking
there werent any funky FOW looks or anything like that
he did start a Robo very very shortly after cloak started being researched same as lone started a turret
but other than that and the wall-off at the start (that failed to stop the zergling pressure anyway...) there was nothing even remotely suspicious and even those two things weren't very suspicious to me... the wall-off was way more suspicious than the robo.
I'll quote DeepElemBlues, because that are exactly my thoughts.
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What do you make of them moving to attack the lings at the back rocks the moment they get there?
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On August 29 2011 06:45 Probe1 wrote: What do you make of them moving to attack the lings at the back rocks the moment they get there?
Ok, then let me ask you what do you make of all the lings they got in from their main entrance (7:00 min mark - look where the protoss's army is), then look where his army was when the banshee came in - 7:20, then 8:40, again ling runby - lowered depot. You'd expect way more awareness from a maphacker. And to answer your question - they just almost cleared all the lings in their base, and then decided to check their rocks, it's just that the timing was just like this.
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