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I can't believe this still is needed but religious and gun control side discussions will be met with harsh penalties from page 52 and onwards.
1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
July 22 2011 16:41 GMT
#561
Hm.. so the attackers thought the PM was at work, and otherwise he would be at the youth meeting?
I think that decision to work at home today, was one of the best decisions ever.
Wouldst thou receive my all-in, cousin? - Choya
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 22 2011 16:41 GMT
#562
Guy on the phone from the shore by Utøya is saying the people are being evacuted from the island by boats. He says they are still hearing shots, terror police with helicopter is on the scene, but he has no information regarding what is going on on the island.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
July 22 2011 16:42 GMT
#563
I think the prime minister has been the target. What has he done lately?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
loladin
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway184 Posts
July 22 2011 16:42 GMT
#564
Varden (a small paper) claims that at least 4 people are shot dead on Utøya.

http://www.varden.no/nyheter/jeg-har-sett-fire-personer-bli-skutt-1.6379146

Eyewitness report from the state secretary of AUF
When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea.
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
July 22 2011 16:42 GMT
#565
On July 23 2011 01:39 Garm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 01:34 Zarahtra wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:32 Ichobicho wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:32 Zarahtra wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:30 Garm wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:27 Zarahtra wrote:
Any news, has the guy at the camp been taken down? They have apparently sealed the area, but from the news it still sounds like he is still going(or atleast hasn't been captured)

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080590

There has not yet been any attempt to get out to the island, and the people at the camp are apparently hiding from the gunman and won't talk in cellphones out of fear of exposing themselves.

Fuckin hell, atleast those people swimming *should* be safe right? :/


If they don't drown, yes.

Im not sure where this place is, is it sea(and if so, is it freezing?) or inside land island?

It's in lake Tyrifjorden in Buskerud county. It seems from the map that it is rather close to the shore, but the lake is fucking huge, so it could still be quite a long swim.


Here is the island on the map. The distance seems indeed quite long for clothed people to swim. :/
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Utøya, Buskerud&hl=fi&ie=UTF8&ll=60.023096,10.253077&spn=0.031821,0.094414&sll=60.705448,8.909912&sspn=3.99045,12.084961&z=14
VegeTerran
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden214 Posts
July 22 2011 16:42 GMT
#566
Utøya is appearently really small, so scary

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Summer[AfO]!
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden11 Posts
July 22 2011 16:42 GMT
#567
On July 23 2011 01:39 Quotidian wrote:
The Primeminster was supposed to attend the youth meeting. Yeah, this has to be connected..

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 01:39 Summer[AfO]! wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:36 Quotidian wrote:
if the false policeman shooter thing is connected to the bombing, then this whole thing has to be homegrown terrorism of some sort, considering the "policeman" identified himself in norwegian.


The suicide-bomber in Sweden was born and raised in Sweden, but it was not "homegrown terrorism" but islamistic.

We'll have to wait and see.



that's still homegrown terrorism.


my mistake
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
July 22 2011 16:42 GMT
#568
I'll be praying for the families of lost and injured loved ones tonight... I wish there was something I could do... =\
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
MCMXVI
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1193 Posts
July 22 2011 16:42 GMT
#569
On July 23 2011 01:35 Cpadolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 01:33 fujimi wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:20 Nivoh wrote:
I fail to see how this is different from stuff happening every single day all over the globe, other than the victim for once being the people of a rich country.


I agree.


There's a time and place for that discussion. Don't fucking bring it here.

Not to be the devils advocate here, but why shouldn't people be allowed to voice their opinions in times like these?

Local reactions, judging from facebook, is that we need to cut down on immigration and throw out people from the Arab/Muslim world. Bomb them all to hell. Etc etc.

People simply does not seem to look beyond their own nose.

I'm from Norway, and if you look at the big picture, we brought this on ourselves.

What's the difference between bombing innocent civilians in Libya and Afghanistan and a bomb going off in Oslo? Nothing.
In capitalist America, bank robs YOU!
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
July 22 2011 16:43 GMT
#570
On July 23 2011 01:34 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 01:32 Ichobicho wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:32 Zarahtra wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:30 Garm wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:27 Zarahtra wrote:
Any news, has the guy at the camp been taken down? They have apparently sealed the area, but from the news it still sounds like he is still going(or atleast hasn't been captured)

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080590

There has not yet been any attempt to get out to the island, and the people at the camp are apparently hiding from the gunman and won't talk in cellphones out of fear of exposing themselves.

Fuckin hell, atleast those people swimming *should* be safe right? :/


If they don't drown, yes.

Im not sure where this place is, is it sea(and if so, is it freezing?) or inside land island?

On a map it look to be between 1 and 2 kilometers but it's in a lake. They should be able to make it but im not even sure how easy it is to even see the direction you are swimming when it's that far + people will be stressed out after running from the gunman etc.... Hopefully they'll all make it
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
July 22 2011 16:43 GMT
#571
On July 23 2011 01:41 Vetrocide wrote:
at least 4 people have been shot and killed at Utøya, at a summer camp for youth, so its highly likely that these 4 might be under the age of 18


wtf? is this from a reliable source?
tonning
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway111 Posts
July 22 2011 16:44 GMT
#572
http://www.varden.no/nyheter/jeg-har-sett-fire-personer-bli-skutt-1.6379146 4 people are dead at Utøya.
Never give up, never surrender. Winners never quit and quitters never win.
Detwiler
Profile Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
July 22 2011 16:44 GMT
#573
Shitty i went to oslo once i remember it being the cleanest city ive ever been to. Like seriously everything was so clean and the city center was packed from like 10am onward... guess its just a good thing the bomb wasnt there. Oh and the grass was so green like i cant even describe it to sumbody who hasnt seen it. It was just like the brightest green ever. Such a nice place. Tragic that this would happen there of all places.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
July 22 2011 16:44 GMT
#574
wtf, I need cliffs. So there was one explosion? then more? and now shootings? =/
vek-
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany49 Posts
July 22 2011 16:44 GMT
#575
This is so sad :/
kekepop
Profile Joined November 2010
55 Posts
July 22 2011 16:45 GMT
#576
On July 23 2011 01:43 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 01:41 Vetrocide wrote:
at least 4 people have been shot and killed at Utøya, at a summer camp for youth, so its highly likely that these 4 might be under the age of 18


wtf? is this from a reliable source?

eye-witnesses
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 16:45:50
July 22 2011 16:45 GMT
#577
On July 23 2011 01:42 MCMXVI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 01:35 Cpadolf wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:33 fujimi wrote:
On July 23 2011 01:20 Nivoh wrote:
I fail to see how this is different from stuff happening every single day all over the globe, other than the victim for once being the people of a rich country.


I agree.


There's a time and place for that discussion. Don't fucking bring it here.

Not to be the devils advocate here, but why shouldn't people be allowed to voice their opinions in times like these?

Local reactions, judging from facebook, is that we need to cut down on immigration and throw out people from the Arab/Muslim world. Bomb them all to hell. Etc etc.

People simply does not seem to look beyond their own nose.

I'm from Norway, and if you look at the big picture, we brought this on ourselves.

What's the difference between bombing innocent civilians in Libya and Afghanistan and a bomb going off in Oslo? Nothing.


The intended target.

There is a difference between terrorism and casualty of war.
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
July 22 2011 16:45 GMT
#578
On July 23 2011 01:43 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 01:41 Vetrocide wrote:
at least 4 people have been shot and killed at Utøya, at a summer camp for youth, so its highly likely that these 4 might be under the age of 18


wtf? is this from a reliable source?


seems like it..

why target youngsters like these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_UFXWVexcU&feature=related
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
July 22 2011 16:45 GMT
#579
Shooter fired several shots with a handgun. BBC is saying these events are definitely an attack on the "ruling party."
Turn off the radio
Vetrocide
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway600 Posts
July 22 2011 16:45 GMT
#580
On July 23 2011 01:43 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 01:41 Vetrocide wrote:
at least 4 people have been shot and killed at Utøya, at a summer camp for youth, so its highly likely that these 4 might be under the age of 18


wtf? is this from a reliable source?


yeah, its told that 4 people at least have been shot, seen by witnesses. And Utøya is a small island outisde oslo which is used for a summer camp that is located there. kids go there every summer to go to summer school, drive boats etc. The island is pretty much just a summer camp, nothing else
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