EPTGovernments should be encouraging vigorous campaigning a la cigarettes. Not with the goal of banning alcohol, but with the goal of educating people about its risks and how it damages society.
The Price of a Human Life in Terms of Alcohol - Page 2
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Swede
New Zealand853 Posts
Governments should be encouraging vigorous campaigning a la cigarettes. Not with the goal of banning alcohol, but with the goal of educating people about its risks and how it damages society. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:42 N3rV[Green] wrote: I don't drink already and believe alcohol to be one of the worst things in our culture today. It destroys the ability to think properly or have control over your own body, and there is actual proof to back it up. It rips people apart, ruins lives, kills people by use alone (that liver can only take so much, you only have the one), is a factor a crime, sexual badshitingeneral, ALL SORTS of messed up shit come from that stupid worthless drug. Seriously, why drink when you can just smoke a bowl? Nobody's ever smoked a bowl, and then gone and beaten his wife, nobody has died or killed somebody while significantly impaired driving while baked, nobody has died from toking, and so many other things.....Really now that I think about it, the only time anybody EVER dies because of weed is because it's illegal and it's a part of the criminal world. This whole bold paragraph is just blatantly false. Bad people are bad people whether they are sober, drunk, or just smoked a ton of weed. Infact, I once got into an altercation with someone who hit their significant other while we were smoking a bowl. | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:45 Atasu wrote: Alcohol causes so many problems, to the point were I ask my self has man lost all common sense? Its worthless and I can never see my self drinking it, those who get pleasure out of it are in denial. Hey lets drink poison...seriously... Pretty much. However, making it illegal doesn't solve the problem. It will be just as bad if not worse in terms of loss of life. | ||
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
Drink responsibly. If that means not drinking at all, then don't drink if you're a fucking retard. | ||
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LaSt)ChAnCe
United States2179 Posts
plus, most alcohol use is reasonable. i, personally, drink maybe one or two beers a day just because it makes me have less background noise in my head (i like to drink a little while i play video games actually, it makes my reaction time quicker because i don't overthink everything) | ||
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Nazarid
United States445 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:42 N3rV[Green] wrote: I don't drink already and believe alcohol to be one of the worst things in our culture today. It destroys the ability to think properly or have control over your own body, and there is actual proof to back it up. It rips people apart, ruins lives, kills people by use alone (that liver can only take so much, you only have the one), is a factor a crime, sexual bad shiting general, ALL SORTS of messed up shit come from that stupid worthless drug. Seriously, why drink when you can just smoke a bowl? Nobody's ever smoked a bowl, and then gone and beaten his wife, nobody has died or killed somebody while significantly impaired driving while baked, nobody has died from toking, and so many other things.....Really now that I think about it, the only time anybody EVER dies because of weed is because it's illegal and it's a part of the criminal world. I want you to rethink what u just posted... Both Alcohol and Weed are drugs of a sort. they are both inhibitors, They both effect you're brain and thought process, motor function, etc etc. Weed can affect people in more sever ways than Alcohol, and the same can be said for alcohol. I personally know a couple people that when they smoke a fat bowl they become retarded in the fullest of meanings. you couldn't even hold a conversation with these people because they can't put 5 words together that make any sense. also driving a vehicle under the influence of Weed is just as dangerous as alcohol for some people not all but some. Your logic that no body ever dies of weed is flawed. people die from things all the time and weed never has been the EXACT cause of death to people who are not allergic I can guarantee you that it has been a part of decisions that lead to a death or maiming of another person or themselves. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
However, making it illegal doesn't solve the problem. It will be just as bad if not worse in terms of loss of life. You have nothing factual to base this claim on. | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:45 Atasu wrote: Well, alcohol per se is neither good or bad. Wine has been suggested to have positive health impact with moderate consumption for example (or healthy people only drink wine).Alcohol causes so many problems, to the point were I ask my self has man lost all common sense? Its worthless and I can never see my self drinking it, those who get pleasure out of it are in denial. Hey lets drink poison...seriously... Results: Wine drinking was significantly associated with higher IQ, higher parental educational level, and higher socioeconomic status. Beer drinking was significantly associated with lower scores on the same variables. Population studies have observed a J curve association between wine consumption and the risk of heart disease. This means that heavy drinkers have an elevated risk, while moderate drinkers (at most two five-ounce servings of wine per day) have a lower risk than non-drinkers. Studies have also found that moderate consumption of other alcoholic beverages may be cardioprotective, although the association is considerably stronger for wine. Sources: http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1102340, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine#Health_effects edit: I also want to point out that banning cars would be better than banning alcohol because car accidents still happen without alcohol. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:56 Nazarid wrote: I want you to rethink what u just posted... Both Alcohol and Weed are drugs of a sort. they are both inhibitors, They both effect you're brain and thought process, motor function, etc etc. Weed can affect people in more sever ways than Alcohol, and the same can be said for alcohol. I personally know a couple people that when they smoke a fat bowl they become retarded in the fullest of meanings. you couldn't even hold a conversation with these people because they can't put 5 words together that make any sense. also driving a vehicle under the influence of Weed is just as dangerous as alcohol for some people not all but some. Your logic that no body ever dies of weed is flawed. people die from things all the time and weed never has been the EXACT cause of death to people who are not allergic I can guarantee you that it has been a part of decisions that lead to a death or maiming of another person or themselves. You know, lets also ban vending machines! More people die via vending machines than people who die via forest fires, but having a controlled fire during dry spells is banned almost everywhere. It is absurd, and really there is no reason to even have vending machines when a store does the same thing. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
Would a ban be effective? I think it might, since alcohol is an enjoyable, and easily consumable drug which has become irremediably tied with social culture. But I have a hard time believing that a ban would be justifiable. I think if it were a serious enough issue, then there would be more outcry, more legislation, or simply more of a reaction. I suppose people just implicitly agree that the benefits of having alcohol outweigh the potential dangers, and that the rules and regulations surrounding alcohol are at least sufficient. | ||
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Legend`
Canada381 Posts
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Hypertension
United States802 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:33 sCfO20 wrote: rofl Honestly, I don't give a damn about alcohol. But, it's not the alcohol that kill people, or make people do stupid shit. It's about you not having control over yourself. Smoke bud, this shit will never happen. I agree with this guy, alcohol is not the problem, only a factor. On June 16 2011 15:45 Atasu wrote: Alcohol causes so many problems, to the point were I ask my self has man lost all common sense? Its worthless and I can never see my self drinking it, those who get pleasure out of it are in denial. Hey lets drink poison...seriously... lol mr judgemental im sorry you've never enjoyed recreational alcohol | ||
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splcer
United States166 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:30 MangoTango wrote: Pretty sure we in the US tried this once. It didn't work out too well. WINNNNN User was warned for this post | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
how is that "WINNNNNN" ? the guy addressed it in his post if people bothered to read it | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
HAHA The New York Five Familys, the Chicago outfit and about a hundred more organizations say hello :D Banning alcohol is like the biggest fuel the US could have given to organized crime back in the twenties thirties. On June 16 2011 16:05 travis wrote: how is that "WINNNNNN" ? the guy addressed it in his post if people bothered to read it Addressed it? Like, he stated the US did it, this is hardly addressing it Regardless of this, i voted no. | ||
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nOia.pod
Hungary263 Posts
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vict1019
United States401 Posts
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
On June 16 2011 16:05 travis wrote: how is that "WINNNNNN" ? the guy addressed it in his post if people bothered to read it Yeah, where did he address that? | ||
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Keldrath
United States449 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:57 Craton wrote: I'd be fine with Alcohol outlawed. It'll never happen, though. You have nothing factual to base this claim on. 1920's, prohibition, al capone, ring any bells? | ||
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